DUmmie wishes for...something

[Karin]

I thought the language style combined with stupidity and the free money was hilarious.  Such a typical DUmp post. 

Wed Jun 18, 2014, 08:49 AM

Joel thakkar (311 posts)

Sometimes i wish more and more people get fired from their jobs
   
Sometimes i wish more and more people get fired from their jobs and get replaced by new tech/machines/computers.

Thus, comes a tipping point where big business owners understand that now their customer is not having enough money to buy their products/services and they understand that every adult should be now provided with universal income..

Thus, people can live their life happily and can spend their time on some other creative work or spending more time with family or travelling around and knowing different places.

I know the process will be hard as people starts getting replaced and in the mean while they don't have much option until the politicians under the pressure of large population introduces a universal income.

The only thing which can expedite this process is mass firing of people (which is only possible during few months in deep recession)...or large amount of youth employment (older people getting retired...and now their jobs replaced by machines/tech/computers instead of youth)..

As youth employment is high in many developed countries, eventually, it may go in any of the one directions

1) Youth getting desperate and demanding universal income for them..

2) Industrialist pressuring politicians to removing (or not increasing) the minimum wage + health benefits etc...from the workers. Thus, get they to exploit them so that desperate youth may start working for them on slave wages (which will be low cost or similar cost in comparison to machines/tech/computers)...

Thus, do you think that if we keep fighting for more minimum wage + worker benefits...a scenario 1 (where people get universal income) will come ? or is it just a utopia which will never happen in real life ?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025115897

[USA4ME]

FREE MONEY!!

I'm in.

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[BattleHymn]

Damn.  There is some genuine weapons-grade stupid going on in that thread.

Then there's this:

Wed Jun 18, 2014, 10:48 AM
The_Commonist (2,262 posts)
13. My guess would be that Joel is...

...very young and idealistic. Which are both wonderful things to be!

And look at the thing on his journal about Socialism. I love the idea of Socialism, but I'm also well into middle-age, and have grown to be a realist. A jaded realist. My sense is that Joel hasn't experienced the "real world" all that much yet, and therefore is still caught in the sort of academic utopia trap.

And there's nothing wrong with wanting utopia, Joel. I spent 8 years living in communes, sharing income and expenses, trying to build a practical, small-scale utopia. In fact, we published a local newspaper called Utopian Classroom.

While I certainly would love to see "the paradigm shift" happen to make it possible for each of us to pursue our interests, it's going to include a hell of a lot of pain. The sociopaths who control the pyramid are going to make damn sure of it. They want the planet to themselves.

[67 Rover]

Wed Jun 18, 2014, 08:49 AM

Joel thakkar (311 posts)

Sometimes i wish more and more people get fired from their jobs
   
Sometimes i wish more and more people get fired from their jobs and get replaced by new tech/machines/computers.

I am curious, just who would be building these machines? 

[miskie]

DUmbasses -

I'm going to steal an over-referenced movie quote ;

"Greed is good."

If necessity is the mother of invention, then greed is certainly its father. The promise of being knee-deep in hookers and gin is what drives people to invent the next big thing. I suspect when Ugg the Caveman tamed fire, he got as much food and action as he could handle. - which probably drove Gronk the Caveman to invent the wheel. etc etc.

And now you, primitive - who apparently hasn't evolved much past Ugg & Gronk - think that society should replace everyone's jobs with automation.

Disney made a movie about that -

Most people aren't going to do ANYTHING to better themselves. If your utopia happens, most people are going to do NOTHING, because there is nothing to gain.. - And those who do choose to do something are going to do what is necessary to enslave the idiot population.

to quote Sir William the Pittiful - "Bank it."

[Tess Anderson]

^ Robots again, I suppose.

I thought Joel was a mole, so I had to look him up:

https://www.facebook.com/joel.thakkar

Nah, just another unemployed Canadian.

[diesel driver]

^ Robots again, I suppose.

I thought Joel was a mole, so I had to look him up:

https://www.facebook.com/joel.thakkar

Nah, just another unemployed Canadian.

I thought Canadia had all this utopian/socialist/bullshit worked out years ago, to the point Barry Bigears wanted his (failed) healthcare system to look like Canadia's (failed) healthcare system, only on a grander (failed) scale.

(Yes, I spelled it "Canadia" on purpose.  It's personal...)