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primitive won't speak to brother again
« on: June 14, 2014, 10:15:42 AM »
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Oh my.

One detects some family discord.

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LaydeeBug (5,925 posts)    Sat Jun 14, 2014, 08:55 AM

Family drama, my felon brother thinks he should be in charge of 'the financials' so he is asking the hospital to stop feeding and hydration. Dad's directive is ambiguous in this matter because he states 'no life support' but then states he can have a vent, etc. The problem with that is while on a vent, you can't eat, so you need a g-tube. dad had told me on several occasions that a g-tube "ain't no big deal. They close right up" His directive also states that if there is any question as to his wishes, he wanted his agent to speak on his behalf. I am that agent.
 
He appointed me to make the call.

He is breathing on his own for a few hours each day, but Hopkins is taking this to court, because they don't want to be sued.
 
They claim not to have a dog in the race either way, but two doctors declared Dad vegetative, which is not true, but the chorus they started singing when I said that dad did not want to live were he a vegetable.
 
I hired the same lawyer to represent Dad as who made the medical directive, but Hopkins attorney filed as if he did not have one, and some judge appointed a stranger. The atty I hired on Dad's behalf has filed an emergency motion because she was retained at the time Hopkins lawyer filed his emergency motion, but I haven't heard anything back yet.
 
My brother is a convict. King pin. On federal release right now. He asked me to buy a refrigerator to store his drugs, I didn't do it, and now this.
 
I am breathless and frantic, and maybe fighting an uphill battle. Of all the things I thought could take my Dad's life, my brother would have been far down on the list.
 
Make no mistake: this is about money. The ironic part is, and he doesn't know it, but I am Dad's sole heir. So once they starve him, or dehydrate him to death (and how am I supposed to believe they won't win) they would have made me richer.
 
We aren't talking dialysis here. We are talking 'something is pumping his heart for him". We are talking about food and water. I have been running ragged to get the house ready to bring him home (you can live at home with a trach and a g-tube and a vent) and my brother thinks he can get himself something.
 
I will never speak to him again. He is a felon and a disgrace, and a ****ing Republican, might I add.

Can a convicted felon vote?

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Michigander_Life (148 posts)       Sat Jun 14, 2014, 08:59 AM

1. You have my utmost sympathies

Your brother sounds despicable; you must have gotten all the "good person" genes in your family. I've noticed it is common on DU for people to empathize with criminals as products of circumstance, but when it comes down to it, there really ARE a lot of evil people out there.

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Borchkins (205 posts)    Sat Jun 14, 2014, 08:59 AM

2. You're the agent

You're the decision-maker. If your lawyer doesn't normally practice in elder law, Go to NAELA.org and find an elder law attorney in your area. Your dad chose you to be his advocate.
 
Good luck,
B
(Wisconsin elder law attorney)

<<<won't believe it until another attorney, the Texas pyramid, the "Gothmog" primitive, checks in

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monmouth3 (3,356 posts)    Sat Jun 14, 2014, 09:06 AM

3. You are and have been a devoted daughter, seeking only the best solutions for your dear dad.

Ignore your brother, he has no say in what is best. I've been following your story and so admire you...

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Sunlei (5,914 posts)    Sat Jun 14, 2014, 09:37 AM

5. utmost sympathies, you know your Dad better than anyone. Sounds like you love each other very much.

He trusts you with the heirship, the medical directive. If you think he wants to live and has a chance to survive whatever his main health issue is, you're doing the right thing fighting for your Dad.
 
If he was my Dad I'd keep on the Doctors asses, make sure he is kept hydrated enough and fed (check the charts and keep tabs on his blood work results) I'm sure you know what I mean.
 
Your Dad is lucky to have a loving child who will fight for him to have a chance to live.
 
p/s probably for the best to ignore the brother, he must add so much stress to the situation.

You know, I just thought of something.

(a) a dying father
(b) a brother wanting to get a new refrigerator to stash his drugs

Hmmmmm.

Maybe the ladybug primitive's the Taverner primitive's sister?
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Re: primitive won't speak to brother again
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2014, 10:40:41 AM »
This is not about love of father or an obstinate brother.
This is about a DUmmy wanting his inheritance NOW. Cashing in on dear old dad.

Most likely case: the DUmmy is the felon, and has been shut out of decision making by his own family.

Liberals are a heartless bunch.

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Re: primitive won't speak to brother again
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2014, 10:45:45 AM »
This is about a DUmmy wanting his inheritance NOW. Cashing in on dear old dad.

Liberals are a heartless bunch.

Tell me about it.

The classic case was the truemud primitive some years ago, who didn't like his ancient mother, but admitted he was nice to her so he wouldn't be cut out of the will.

Primitives are that way; not a shred of decency in them.
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Re: primitive won't speak to brother again
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2014, 11:07:56 AM »
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... but Hopkins is taking this to court, because they don't want to be sued... but Hopkins attorney filed as if he did not have one, ... The atty I hired on Dad's behalf has filed an emergency motion because she was retained at the time Hopkins lawyer filed his emergency motion, ...

Hopkins? As in John Hopkins?

And if so, wouldn't a call to PayPal remedy the issue?

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Re: primitive won't speak to brother again
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2014, 01:34:00 PM »
I have heard of "Republican" felons but, for the most part they are smart enough to avoid conviction.  I would think stupid felons would for the most part be convicted and DUmmies.  Therefore, as someone pointed out above, their political affiliation wouldn't matter as they can't vote anyway. 

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Re: primitive won't speak to brother again
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2014, 01:42:00 PM »
nadin could straighten this out.

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Re: primitive won't speak to brother again
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2014, 10:57:38 PM »
Can a convicted felon vote?

If the sentenced is served but the OP says the brother is "on federal release."
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Re: primitive won't speak to brother again
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2014, 10:58:43 PM »
If the sentenced is served but the OP says the brother is "on federal release."
I think it depends on the type of crime/conviction.  I've heard never, ten years, or the felon has to petition their state of residence to reinstate their rights.  I'm not entirely clear on the issue.
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Re: primitive won't speak to brother again
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2014, 11:05:35 PM »
Felons' ability to vote is determined state-by-state.

Some allow them to vote (democrat) while still in prison. 

In some states a felon is never allowed to vote.

Others are in between.


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Re: primitive won't speak to brother again
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2014, 07:25:42 AM »
Convenient timing of this bouncy coinciding with the Casey Kasem drama in the news.

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Re: primitive won't speak to brother again
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2014, 08:04:40 AM »
Convenient timing of this bouncy coinciding with the Casey Kasem drama in the news.

Good catch.

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Re: primitive won't speak to brother again
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2014, 09:16:09 AM »
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They claim not to have a dog in the race either way, but two doctors declared Dad vegetative, which is not true, but the chorus they started singing when I said that dad did not want to live were he a vegetable.



Wonder if the doctor's claims are true....The DUmmies reponses sure are different than when Terri Schiavo's case was in the news.
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Re: primitive won't speak to brother again
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2014, 09:57:12 AM »


Wonder if the doctor's claims are true....The DUmmies reponses sure are different than when Terri Schiavo's case was in the news.

It's interesting how perspective changes when such a situation becomes one's own experience. I also wonder what the DU-person said when the one to be killed by starvation and dehydration was Terri Schiavo. And what did Terri Schiavo's (with apologies for sullying the word) "husband" have to gain ... other than $$ ... and legitimizing his honey-on-the-side?
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Re: primitive won't speak to brother again
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2014, 12:31:30 PM »
Tell me about it.

The classic case was the truemud primitive some years ago, who didn't like his ancient mother, but admitted he was nice to her so he wouldn't be cut out of the will.

Primitives are that way; not a shred of decency in them.

This also reminds me of the Stewert primitive, who couldn't wait for his poor dad to crawl off into the great beyond.

What was funny about that was when stewert found out his dad left the home he was living in to another of his sons, who may or may not be trying to evict stewert (If you believe the hand printed "notarized" letter from "Butch", or whatever his name was, sent to stewert).

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Re: primitive won't speak to brother again
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2014, 04:50:34 PM »
This is not about love of father or an obstinate brother.
This is about a DUmmy wanting his inheritance NOW. Cashing in on dear old dad.

Most likely case: the DUmmy is the felon, and has been shut out of decision making by his own family.

Liberals are a heartless bunch.

A very pathetic bunch. Estrangement is so common with DUmmies.
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Re: primitive won't speak to brother again
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2014, 06:12:54 PM »
She has an update on this (no mention of her fake GOP convict "brother"):

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Dad took a turn for the worse yesterday, and I have to face the fact that I am never going to be able to bring him home.

I won't let him languish in a nursing home.

I can't.

This is the hardest thing I will ever have to do.

It's Father's Day


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Re: primitive won't speak to brother again
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2014, 07:03:26 PM »
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This is the hardest thing I will ever have to do.

It's Father's Day

A DUmmy around elderly parents is as deadly as coach around a redheaded sodomite.

Not only did stewert ice his old man (who with his will took revenge from beyond the grave), but Bennyboy, the gigantic DUmmy with a face covered in "squeamish carcinoma", admitted in so many words to pulling the plug prematurely on both his parents.

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Re: primitive won't speak to brother again
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2014, 06:54:41 AM »
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Dad took a turn for the worse yesterday, and I have to face the fact that I am never going to be able to bring him home.

I won't let him languish in a nursing home.

I can't.

This is the hardest thing I will ever have to do.

It's Father's Day

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