So Bush (etc) - how's that illegal war in Iraq going now?

[dutch508]

Barry's policy of cut and run, lead from behind, ignore the facts and proclaim victory is all coming to fruitation...

Many years ago we did our duty, came home, and watched as Saigon fell. Some were still there.

History seems to be repeating itself yet again.

In Iraq cities are falling not unlike they did back then. Most recent updates suggest that Baghdad is next.

Small positive thing. The folks that went into Iraq didn’t get spit at/on when they came home.  The rest remains to be seen.
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=50616&cpage=1

malaise (119,538 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025085791

So Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, CRice - how's that illegal war in Iraq going now?

What a bunch of ****ing stupid war criminals who never knew a damned thing about history.

liberal N proud (47,072 posts)
1. They own that cluster **** but their talking head supporters will blame Obama

Martin Eden (4,811 posts)
6. It's Obama's fault

Republican Senator John McCain said the takeover of Mosul reflected President Barack Obama's failure to leave a US force in Iraq to help assure stability.

"There's no doubt that we could have left troops behind, as we have in Korea and Germany and Bosnia, and didn't, and so it is now chaos, and so you will see greater and greater attacks and ... chaos in Iraq," Mr McCain said.


Apparently McCain is still bitter he lost his chance to be an even bigger war criminal than those mentioned in the OP. Nothing short of perpetual war will satisfy them. Are they too stupid to learn any lesson from these fiascos, or is what ttranspired what they had in mind in the first place?

Nitram (314 posts)
15. Malaise, we saw the same phenomenon after our war in Vietnam.

And we'll hear all the same BS from conservatives this time too. For the rest of our lives. "We lost the war because the media and anti-war liberals sapped our will to fight and forced us to withdraw before the job was finished." Don't say I didn't warn you!

yellowwoodII (127 posts)
19. Hillary

Hillary voted for it, too.

[dutch508]

Sparks says:
June 11, 2014 at 6:57 pm
Zero Ponsdorf…Well said. My concern now is in Baghdad. If it falls and I believe it will, our Embassy is in deep and dire threat. My questions. Are Obama and Kerry and all their minions planning right now to evacuate the Embassy and soon? Are they planning to send military support to defend it if needed until evacuated? Or are they still sitting on their hands with their thumbs up their asses in the “let’s wait to see how this plays out”, mode of action, which is the expected norm from them? If they let Baghdad fall without evacuating the Embassy, I guarantee my mortgage, the first place ISIS will be headed is there. To overrun it, kill all non essentials and take hostage the rest. It will be far, far worse than Benghazi. I tell you though, this is another bigger and worse Benghazi in the making and if action is not taken now to protect the Americans there, this nation and this administration are going to have a huge unrecoverable mess on our hands. I think 1979 again, when we had hostages in the Embassy. I fear that scenario again in a very real way and as a very real possibility. History, as you spoke so well, not remembered by Obama, will doomed this nation to repeat with American lives again. It is inevitable in Baghdad, if and when it falls and I believe it is only a matter of time. NOW is the time to take action. NOW. Not later. I wish the White House watched this blog and could read what I wrote. But who am I kidding, they do not care for American lives and have proven that time and again. God help this country and protect our people in Baghdad from this administration http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=50616&cpage=1

[DumbAss Tanker]

Bush handed them a war that was over, with only a follow-on stationing agreement to be done by Obozo to keep it stable and maintain the gains.  Obozo, the smarterest man ever, who knows everything all the time, and doesn't need to listen to anyone (As if any DemonRats knew shit about foreign policy anyway, after all, foreigners don't vote for the machine, duh) chose to walk away from it.  The results were entirely predictable.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

The American soldier has never lost a war.

But the Democrats have given away everyone they've ever gotten their hands on.

[BlueStateSaint]

Sparks says:
June 11, 2014 at 6:57 pm
Zero Ponsdorf…Well said. My concern now is in Baghdad. If it falls and I believe it will, our Embassy is in deep and dire threat. My questions. Are Obama and Kerry and all their minions planning right now to evacuate the Embassy and soon? Are they planning to send military support to defend it if needed until evacuated? Or are they still sitting on their hands with their thumbs up their asses in the “let’s wait to see how this plays out”, mode of action, which is the expected norm from them? If they let Baghdad fall without evacuating the Embassy, I guarantee my mortgage, the first place ISIS will be headed is there. To overrun it, kill all non essentials and take hostage the rest. It will be far, far worse than Benghazi. I tell you though, this is another bigger and worse Benghazi in the making and if action is not taken now to protect the Americans there, this nation and this administration are going to have a huge unrecoverable mess on our hands. I think 1979 again, when we had hostages in the Embassy. I fear that scenario again in a very real way and as a very real possibility. History, as you spoke so well, not remembered by Obama, will doomed this nation to repeat with American lives again. It is inevitable in Baghdad, if and when it falls and I believe it is only a matter of time. NOW is the time to take action. NOW. Not later. I wish the White House watched this blog and could read what I wrote. But who am I kidding, they do not care for American lives and have proven that time and again. God help this country and protect our people in Baghdad from this administration http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=50616&cpage=1

Apparently, there are some steps being taken . . .http://hotair.com/archives/2014/06/11/as-militants-advance-in-iraq-u-s-embassy-in-baghdad-readies-evacuation/

[DLR Pyro]

Martin Eden (4,811 posts)
6. It's Obama's fault

Republican Senator John McCain said the takeover of Mosul reflected President Barack Obama's failure to leave a US force in Iraq to help assure stability.

McCain is right and we will see the repeat of this shortly when obama pulls all our Forces out of Afghanistan on the date he has set in stone and leaves the Afghans  to dangle in the wind while the recently released gitmo 5 take over.

[Carl]

Yeah,Bush sure screwed up Egypt,Libya and Syria too.

[BannedFromDU]

     That's the Democratic party in a nutshell: zero strategic focus, 100% political focus. So concerned about pleasing Hollywood and Berkeley that they leave an entire country hanging out to dry.

     And as long as they think they have someone else to blame, it doesn't matter what happens.

     It will take decades to un**** what 0moron has ****ed.

     HOW ANTIWAR IS BARACK 0BAMA? WHY, HE'S SO ANTIWAR THAT HE JUST ENSURED WE'LL SOON BE IN ANOTHER ONE.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Over 10 years later, and I still haven't seen any evidence of these do called "war criminals".

[YupItsMe]

Over 10 years later, and I still haven't seen any evidence of these do called "war criminals".

they're going to produce the evidence in 24 "business hours"   Bush, Cheney & Rove to be tried at the Hague.  Bank on it 

[redwhit]

malaise (119,538 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025085791

So Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, CRice - how's that illegal war in Iraq going now?

What a bunch of ****ing stupid war criminals who never knew a damned thing about history.

Ask Hillary and Kerry.  They voted for it.

[Tucker]

obama gave his kinfolk 10 months notice that he was pulling out. All the terrorist had to do was sit and wait until they left. It's not like they had to guess when it was gonna happen.

[JohnnyReb]

When everything needs to be absolutely screwed up, elect a democrat.

[Dori]

When everything needs to be absolutely screwed up, elect a democrat.

Boehner was just out slamming Obama.  He was saying that it's not like we didn't see this coming a year ago.  He also said that while Iraq is imploding, Obama is taking a nap.

[dutch508]

Boehner was just out slamming Obama.  He was saying that it's not like we didn't see this coming a year ago.  He also said that while Iraq is imploding, Obama is taking a nap.

A year ago?

How about since 2009?

[Karin]

I don't even know what to say, this is so spectacularly appalling.  It was all for nothing? 

[Chris_]

liberal N proud (47,072 posts)

1. They own that cluster **** but their talking head supporters will blame Obama

U.S. Said to Rebuff Iraqi Request to Strike Militants

As the threat from Sunni militants in western Iraq escalated last month, Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki secretly asked the Obama administration to consider carrying out airstrikes against extremist staging areas, according to Iraqi and American officials.

But Iraq’s appeals for a military response have so far been rebuffed by the White House, which has been reluctant to open a new chapter in a conflict that President Obama has insisted was over when the United States withdrew the last of its forces from Iraq in 2011.

The swift capture of Mosul by militants aligned with the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria has underscored how the conflicts in Syria and Iraq have converged into one widening regional insurgency with fighters coursing back and forth through the porous border between the two countries. But it has also called attention to the limits the White House has imposed on the use of American power in an increasingly violent and volatile region.

New York Times

That blame would be well-placed. 

[Happy Fun Ball]

I don't even know what to say, this is so spectacularly appalling.  It was all for nothing?

We don't call him 0 for nothing.

Oh wait, we do, and this is a good example as to why.

[DLR Pyro]

Boehner was just out slamming Obama.  He was saying that it's not like we didn't see this coming a year ago.  He also said that while Iraq is imploding, Obama is taking a nap.

He's resting up for his trip to OC this weekend to **** up traffic for you and me. 

[dutch508]

But Iraq’s appeals for a military response have so far been rebuffed by the White House, which has been reluctant to open a new chapter in a conflict that President Obama has insisted was over when the United States withdrew the last of its forces from Iraq in 2011.

Mission Accomplished 2003
Nearly two years after the end of his administration and over seven-and-a-half years after the “Mission Accomplished” speech, this admitted mistake remains an embarrassing one for Bush.  The giant banner provided the backdrop as the president arrived on the carrier in full gear after participating in two flybys in the co-pilot’s seat of a Navy fighter jet and it was also prominently set for all coverage of Bush’s speech that followed, in which he celebrated the toppling of Saddam Hussein’s regime and announced the end of major combat operations in Iraq.

When American casualties continued to accumulate—eventually surpassing the total suffered before the mission was supposedly accomplished—Bush’s dramatic photo op came to be perceived among many as foolish bravado; a two-word, tragically ironic summary of a leader who did not understand the role securing the peace has in actually winning a war.


Mission Accomplished 2011
Mission accomplished, really: US war in Iraq officially ends
   
Some 4,000 US forces will be exiting Iraq in the coming days. 'Iraq will be tested in days ahead,' warned Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, at an end-of-mission ceremony Thursday.
Today, “after a great deal of blood spilled by the Iraqis and the Americans, the mission of an Iraq that could govern and secure itself has become real,” he added.
Mr. Panetta, for his part, tackled a question in the course of his remarks that US troops will continue to wrestle with long after the war has come to an end: Was the sacrifice worth the cost?
He assured those forces assembled that it was. “Those lives were not lost in vain,” he said. “They gave birth to an independent, free, and sovereign Iraq.”
Yet along with the assurances, Panetta issued a warning as well. “Let me be clear: Iraq will be tested in the days ahead, by terrorism, by those who would seek to divide,” he said. And “by the demands of democracy itself.”





BUSH's FAULT!!!

[thundley4]

U.S. Said to Rebuff Iraqi Request to Strike Militants

As the threat from Sunni militants in western Iraq escalated last month, Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki secretly asked the Obama administration to consider carrying out airstrikes against extremist staging areas, according to Iraqi and American officials.

But Iraq’s appeals for a military response have so far been rebuffed by the White House, which has been reluctant to open a new chapter in a conflict that President Obama has insisted was over when the United States withdrew the last of its forces from Iraq in 2011.

The swift capture of Mosul by militants aligned with the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria has underscored how the conflicts in Syria and Iraq have converged into one widening regional insurgency with fighters coursing back and forth through the porous border between the two countries. But it has also called attention to the limits the White House has imposed on the use of American power in an increasingly violent and volatile region.

That blame would be well-placed.

Why would Obama aid the current Iraq government? They are hardline Muslims like he is supporting in every other Muslim country.

[I_B_Perky]

History will show that obumbles could have prevented a larger war if he would have negotiated a successful status of force agreement in Iraq. He will be the 21st century Neville Chamberlain.

I have no problem with the muzzies killing each other. I hope they do it on a massive scale to be honest. Unfortunately it is not going to turn out well and I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is going to erupt into a full fledged war,  the US will get involved and it will be a war the US will have to win.

This will be obumbles legacy.

[thundley4]

History will show that obumbles could have prevented a larger war if he would have negotiated a successful status of force agreement in Iraq. He will be the 21st century Neville Chamberlain.

I have no problem with the muzzies killing each other. I hope they do it on a massive scale to be honest. Unfortunately it is not going to turn out well and I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is going to erupt into a full fledged war,  the US will get involved and it will be a war the US will have to win.

This will be obumbles legacy.

Eventually they'll get tired of killing each other and turn to other targets, like us and Israel. Obama can't be relied upon to defend either.

[diesel driver]

The "use of force" authorization passed during GWB's term is still in effect.  Barry could make a good show with it, blow up some aspirin factories and empty office buildings with a couple of Cruise missiles like Bubba did.

[FlippyDoo]

malaise (119,538 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025085791

So Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, CRice - how's that illegal war in Iraq going now?

What a bunch of ****ing stupid war criminals who never knew a damned thing about history.

The brave men and women of the United States armed forces, during the Bush administration, brought freedom to the people of Iraq. Freedom that was paid for in blood, sweat, and tears. Freedom like many of these people had never known. Freedom from a brutal regime.

The powerful wizard of 0 has managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. He's been the best president a muslim extremist has ever had.

And malaise, nads says one of her cheeks are getting dry so you need to get back to your ass kissing and leave the stupidity to her.