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primitives discuss birth certificate, passport, woes
« on: June 06, 2014, 12:00:27 PM »
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Avalux (30,137 posts)    Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:34 AM

My birth certificate isn't good enough for a passport. Too late.

I am about to have an anxiety attack.

I was born in 1965 and have a birth certificate that does not list the names of my parents. I acquired a passport with this 18 years ago, no longer have that passport.
 
I applied for a new passport using that same birth certificate, the accepting agent said nothing about the rule change in 2011 which requires a birth certificate listing both parents.
 
I was just notified that my birth certificate is unacceptable; I will not be able to get an acceptable one from my birth state in time to travel....the website says - in big red letters - it will take 30-35 BUSINESS days for them to process my order, and I have no one there to go get it and send to me. I travel in 3 weeks.
 
I don't know what to do.....am I screwed or does anyone have an idea of how to get around this?

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elleng (47,606 posts)    Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:38 AM

1. Contact your Senators and Rep ASAP.

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Avalux (30,137 posts)    Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:38 AM

2. Where I live now?

I live in Texas.....was not born here.

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elleng (47,606 posts)    Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:46 AM

7. Your current reps,

who get your vote (or MAYBE get your vote,) yes. Part of their job is to expedite matters for their constituents with government agencies.

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Kali (38,103 posts)    Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:39 AM

3. I would try to get someone from vital records of your birth state on the phone.

get a human and stay calm but firm and see if they can help you.

where are you going?

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Avalux (30,137 posts)    Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:40 AM

4. Europe.

If I had been told by the accepting agent at the time, I would have taken care of it; didn't know! And it's not my first passport. The system is completely ****ed up.

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iscooterliberally (388 posts)    Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:41 AM

5. I had to get my birth certificate recently.

I can't remember the name of the company I used, but I needed one with a raised seal from the state of NY where I was born. I needed it to get a new FL drivers license. I do believe they had a rush service. I didn't use that and it took only about a week to get the certificate. OK...while writing this response I found the company. It's called Vital Check. They might be able to help you out.
 
vitalcheck.com/birthcertificates

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Hangingon (2,230 posts)    Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:45 AM

6. I was born in 1942 and had a hospital birth certificate ...

The one with little foot prints. In WW2 period it seems lots of people got these in lieu of the state certificate. Dept. of State rejected it for a passport. I called my congressman's office. He had a person experienced with passport problems. I had to get a state birth certificate and pay for expedited service and Fedex. The staffer got it pushed thru. As a bonus, I learned my first name is officially spelled wrong. Hope that helps.
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Re: primitives discuss birth certificate, passport, woes
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2014, 12:40:21 PM »
Gosh DUmbass...isn`t government bureaucracy a wonderful thing?  :bird:




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Re: primitives discuss birth certificate, passport, woes
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2014, 01:04:47 PM »
BC without parent's names WTF?  Were they ashamed? 

When I was about 20, I got 6 stamped copies of my BC (still have three) and, when we travel, we always start worrying about documents about six months out.  They seem to go out of their way to screw their life up.

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Re: primitives discuss birth certificate, passport, woes
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2014, 01:10:49 PM »
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I was born in 1965 and have a birth certificate that does not list the names of my parents

Huh?  Never heard of that.  Why do you (D)Ummies constantly come up with problems that seem to be unique in the universe?

BC without parent's names WTF?  Were they ashamed?

 :-)  Failed abortion?

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Avalux (30,137 posts)    Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:40 AM

 The system is completely ****ed up.

Whaaaaat!?!?!?!  B-b-b-b-but....government rules, dude.
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Re: primitives discuss birth certificate, passport, woes
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2014, 01:39:52 PM »
How stupid do you have to be to wait until 3 weeks before you depart the country to get your passport?

Stupid enough to be a liberal, that's how stupid.

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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2014, 02:08:13 PM »
30 t0 35 business day ?????? If that's anything like business hours, DUmmie will be well over a 100 years old when he gets it and who travels aboard after they're a 100 years old.
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Re: primitives discuss birth certificate, passport, woes
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2014, 03:19:23 PM »
How stupid do you have to be to wait until 3 weeks before you depart the country to get your passport?

Stupid enough to be a liberal, that's how stupid.

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No kidding.  I applied for mine 3 months ahead of time, and that was pre 9/11.
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Re: primitives discuss birth certificate, passport, woes
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2014, 04:17:40 PM »
BC without parent's names WTF?

No one has a birth certificate without parents' names.

The DUmmy is trying to use a driver's license.

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Re: primitives discuss birth certificate, passport, woes
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2014, 04:22:14 PM »
No one has a birth certificate without parents' names.

The DUmmy is trying to use a driver's license.

That's what confused me; I was waiting to see if anybody's ever heard of it.

It seems to me a birth certificate would have at least one name, the mother.

As for the hangingon primitive with his hospital "birth certificate," those things are issued, or at least used to be issued routinely, but they made no pretensions of being official birth certificates.

No one receives an official state-issued birth certificate merely by being born; one has to at some time request one.  And that was just as true in 1942 as it is today.
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Re: primitives discuss birth certificate, passport, woes
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My birth certificate isn't good enough for a passport

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Re: primitives discuss birth certificate, passport, woes
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2014, 04:38:01 PM »
BC without parent's names WTF?  Were they ashamed? 

When I was about 20, I got 6 stamped copies of my BC (still have three) and, when we travel, we always start worrying about documents about six months out.  They seem to go out of their way to screw their life up.

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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2014, 05:18:41 PM »
You can get a birth certificate issued at democrat headquarters in all big cities.

Just give them the names and place of birth you would like to have on your certificate.

For convenience, you can register to vote at the same time.


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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2014, 07:06:56 PM »
You can get a birth certificate issued at democrat headquarters in all big cities.

Just give them the names and place of birth you would like to have on your certificate.

For convenience, you can register to vote at the same time.

And then you can usually vote more than once too.
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2014, 07:10:00 PM »
Maybe this DUmmie's parents realized early that it was a true idiot and left her at Burger King.
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2014, 07:10:53 PM »
president obama, is that you?

Lol.....^that's what I was thinking  :-)

Obama got a passport without a birth certificate too.



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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2014, 04:13:55 PM »
No one has a birth certificate without parents' names.

The DUmmy is trying to use a driver's license.

Actually I do have such a "birth certificate."

Some states/counties issue a certificate with raised seal that says words to the effect there is a valid cert. on file at the [county name here] hall of records.  It stood me in good stead for 50-plus years - even to the point of processing my retirement paperwork.  However, for a passport I checked WAY ahead of time and learned I needed to have a "long form" cert. and ordered one.

In fact, my state's RMV just switched to that kind of system for auto registration -- this certifies that the registration for this vehicle is on file at [state name here] data center.

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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2014, 07:03:35 AM »
Pappa was a rolling stone....no, not Mick Jagger.

Actually,

He/She/It was born in the back seat...
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Re: primitives discuss birth certificate, passport, woes
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2014, 07:41:50 AM »
No one has a birth certificate without parents' names.

The DUmmy is trying to use a driver's license.

Anything is possible. My original state BC didnt even have my name. It had Boy 'lastname" . My mom lost my county BC that was used during my early school years so when I tried to get a DL when I was in High school it took me 6 mths to get my official BC changed to have my name put on it.

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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2014, 07:47:30 AM »
Uh ????...those places that don't require the parents names on a BC...does that mean if you don't like the baby you don't have to claim it?

I know, if I thought it was going to grow up to be a DUmmie, I'd want the option of leaving it at the hospital too.  :-) Hey, it beats abortion.....or does it?
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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2014, 07:59:30 AM »
Just make a fake one, Obama did.






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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2014, 08:04:48 AM »
Just make a fake one, Obama did.
Fake BC for a fake president.....maybe that should be "flake" president?
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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2014, 12:44:54 PM »
Anything is possible. My original state BC didnt even have my name. It had Boy 'lastname" . My mom lost my county BC that was used during my early school years so when I tried to get a DL when I was in High school it took me 6 mths to get my official BC changed to have my name put on it.

I had the same thing, but I didn't have a problem getting my license.  My birth certificate wasn't changed until I enlisted in the Navy.  Even then it didn't cause a problem, but Uncle Sam changed it for me somehow. 

I didn't find that out until years later when I went to get a copy and it had been edited.  It looked as phony as Obama's birth certificate does. I asked about it and they checked the records, and all they could tell me was that it had been changed the year I enlisted.

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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2014, 01:09:24 PM »
The services you can find on-line, and offering expedited shipment, are excellent.  They can usually get the whole thing turned around in a week or less.  Of course, you pay for it, so it's poison to DUmmies...
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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2014, 06:52:11 AM »
I had the same thing, but I didn't have a problem getting my license.  My birth certificate wasn't changed until I enlisted in the Navy.  Even then it didn't cause a problem, but Uncle Sam changed it for me somehow. 

I didn't find that out until years later when I went to get a copy and it had been edited.  It looked as phony as Obama's birth certificate does. I asked about it and they checked the records, and all they could tell me was that it had been changed the year I enlisted.

Uncle Sam does some interesting things with a BC for those needing one from some parts of the world that want to live here.

For those in Indonesia born in the small villages not only do they just have one name but no idea of the month or year of birth.    SO, we give them a birth certificate and  an approximate age, and use FNU for last name.------Family Name Unknown------.   

Something I have wondered about for years is how Obama birth certificate had gotten out if he was Adopted as a child by his mothers new husband.  Was his mother ever legally  married to these two men or was this a cover up of a wealthy family to protect their standing in Society ?

We have an adopted female in our family, her BC has her adopted parents names and the name of the hospital she was born in.   At 18 she decided to try to find her birth mother.   She had to go through hoops and chains to get any information even with the help of her adopted parents. Bad idea, she found her birth mother repulsive and she thanks God every night for her adoptive parents, or as she calls them her REAL parents.


So in 1970 I gave birth in Hawaii and the state sent a woman around to get all information on the child, sent to my bed side where I was addled from a difficult birth, and she gave me a hard time over the baby's name.    Quite the strange thing for me just a few hours after giving birth was her 3rd. degree on why I wanted to put a 111 after his name.    His grandfather, father had the same name and so he was a third in that line.  No his fathers BC did not have a JR after his name and as the Grandfather was born in Canada, for all I knew he could also have been a JR.

As I compare BC of both my sons,  one born in Maine the other in Hawaii 3 years apart one thing stands out, my signature on both.   The one from Maine 3 years earlier was written with care full and most clear strokes of the pen.     The new baby in Hawaii was just a squiggle, I wonder if I actually signed the BC in the condition I was in.

As far as getting a pass port, why would I want to leave the USA, this is like living in a huge home with 50 unopened doors.    Why go else wear when one has not explored all the unopened doors at home?

I asked my son why he and wife take these cruses to  other places and not head out to see America.   Answer was cost, cheaper to visit on a cruse ship to some odd culture then to rent an RV and spend time in other parts of the country.

  Cruses have the tour guides, the tons of food 3-4 times a day, entertainment and casinos.  What do the passengers  learn from this ? 

What about America,  why do we spend all this money to go else ware and not see for our own eyes the land God lent his grace on and we need to protect in His name.