Just desert(er)s?

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Jeneral2885 (989 posts)

War time deserters: Eisenhower ordered one to be executed

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2014/06/04/war-zone-deserter-if-so-bowe-bergdahl-joins-a-fascinating-and-bizarre-club/

One of the most famous deserters is Pvt. Eddie Slovik, who ran from combat duty in France in 1944 while deployed with the Army’s 28th Infantry Division. He acknowledged deserting in a written confession in October of that year — something that ultimately sealed his fate.
Slovik was shot by a 12-man firing squad after Gen. Dwight Eisenhower, later president of the United States, refused his appeal for leniency and made an example of him. He is still the last U.S. service member to be executed for deserting,

randys1 (1,169 posts)

1. TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TERRIBLE
 
Didnt Martin Sheen play him in a movie?

That was a TERRIBLE thing to do, we should NEVER do it again...

LanternWaste (18,838 posts)

4. I suppose many people believe that refusing to kill should result in execution.

I suppose many people believe that refusing to kill should result in execution.

Remember: these are the people who wanted drones and AC-130s unleashed on Cloven Bundy.

But deserters -- even those who were sent to fight Nazis and Al Qaeda -- are to be shown every mercy.


Keep running your mouths you hateful ****s.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025048744

[thundley4]

LanternWaste (18,838 posts)

4. I suppose many people believe that refusing to kill should result in execution.

I suppose many people believe that refusing to kill should result in execution.

It is an all volunteer military. Bergdahl knew that killing Mudslimes would be required in the line of duty. His desertion caused the deaths of Americans, so yes, he deserves the firing squad if it is found out that he deserted his post in wartime.

[Rebel]

It is an all volunteer military. Bergdahl knew that killing Mudslimes would be required in the line of duty. His desertion caused the deaths of Americans, so yes, he deserves the firing squad if it is found out that he deserted his post in wartime.

I honestly have an issue with this. I think death for desertion should only come in a declared war, as in declared by the U.S. Congress. Think of this scenario, some authoritarian asshole gets control of the U.S., replaces high-level general officers who aren't his biggest supporters, with officers that are in his camp. Those officers, on his order, send in the military to start rounding up people deemed to be "threats to national security" for, oh, I don't know, supporting the 2nd Amendment, believing in national sovereignty and exceptionalism, supporting the abolition of the IRS, are Christian, etc. Then, the troops under the general officers who are in his camp decide, "hey, **** this, I'm not turning my weapon on the American populace", and get the hell out of Dodge. When they're found, they are executed as deserters.

That I would have a problem with.


As for Bergdahl, I'm all for sending his ass to Leavenworth for life.

[Rebel]

HOWEVER.......

If it's found that he aided and abetted the enemy by giving them intel on our troops and tactics, that led to the deaths of U.S. personnel, give ALL on the firing squad a live round and say, "first to hit him, the beer's on the house". But that would be execution for treason.

[Dori]

As for Bergdahl, I'm all for sending his ass to Leavenworth for life.

He'll probably get carted off to some mental facility and disappear.

What would have happened to him if he had just told his commander that he just couldn't do what was required of him in Afghanistan? 

Would they have shipped him back?

[USA4ME]

Slovik was shot by a 12-man firing squad after Gen. Dwight Eisenhower, later president of the United States, refused his appeal for leniency and made an example of him.

Probably the fault of that Military Industrial Complex he warned us about.

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[GOBUCKS]

John Walker Lindh got a twenty-year sentence in federal prison, partly because he joined the Taliban in Afghanistan and partly because the press came up with the "American Taliban" nickname.

He's due to be released in about five or six more years, unless the jug-eared muslim pardons him, which is a possibility.

But, big difference, Lindh was tried while W was in office and hard-core Americans were in the upper chain of command.

This current traitor may get a less-than-honorable discharge, but I'd be shocked if he gets any real punishment.

The Hildebeast will lobby hard for them to throw the book at him, to prevent blowback in the 2016 election, but I doubt the Kenyan cares much about her.

[BlueStateSaint]

John Walker Lindh got a twenty-year sentence in federal prison, partly because he joined the Taliban in Afghanistan and partly because the press came up with the "American Taliban" nickname.

He's due to be released in about five or six more years, unless the jug-eared muslim pardons him, which is a possibility.

But, big difference, Lindh was tried while W was in office and hard-core Americans were in the upper chain of command.

This current traitor may get a less-than-honorable discharge, but I'd be shocked if he gets any real punishment.

The Hildebeast will lobby hard for them to throw the book at him, to prevent blowback in the 2016 election, but I doubt the Kenyan cares much about her.

It's personal between Bill (Clinton) and Barack.

And, when Lindh does get out, it wouldn't surprise me to see that he 'wakes up dead' someday.