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Tea party on life support after brutal primary beatdown
« on: May 21, 2014, 11:34:16 PM »
Tea party on life support after brutal primary beatdown
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/21/tea-party-support-hits-new-low-poll-says/

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Support for the tea party has dropped to an all-time low, said a new CBS News poll released Wednesday.

Just 15 percent of Americans told the pollsters that they are supporters of the tea party movement today, which is less than half the level of support at its peak of 31 percent in November 2010 shortly after the midterm election when the movement fueled a landslide Republican win to take majority control of the House.

I would not write off the Tea Party yet or even remotely do so.
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Re: Tea party on life support after brutal primary beatdown
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2014, 06:26:11 AM »
Whistling past the graveyard.
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Re: Tea party on life support after brutal primary beatdown
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2014, 07:47:57 AM »
I think conservatives are so sick of just being called racists and homophobes just by agreeing with anything Tea Party has made them quiet.  Not gone away, they will just quietly take over. (hopefully)  :-)






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Re: Tea party on life support after brutal primary beatdown
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2014, 09:57:22 AM »
The disaffection with the establishment is still there, and the establishment knows it.  As long as that knowledge and the fear of resurgence serves to rein in their RINO tendencies, the TEA Party will have accomplished a great deal.
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Re: Tea party on life support after brutal primary beatdown
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2014, 10:16:56 AM »
Fortunately for us, the media equates protests, marching in the streets and shitting on cop cars as signs of unrest.
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Re: Tea party on life support after brutal primary beatdown
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2014, 12:50:18 PM »
'The Tea Party is not a party'.  How many times have I heard that?  Anytime one suggests the 'Tea Party' should do this or that, someone will invariably pipe up and say--'but the tea party is not a party'. 

Obviously this is said to try and make excuses for the failures of the tea party since their high water mark after the 2010 mid term elections.

So, where did the Tea Party go wrong--how did they manage to turn victory into defeat?

I suggest simply because they set back on their laurels--thought they could continue to be a power behind the scenes.  Not understanding that their enemies would organize and retaliate.

Now we see the results of a 'demonizing effort' by tea party enemies that has been going on for quite a while and we should not forget the effects of the irs on the tea party.

Bottom Line:  The tea party has been diminished because it chose to remain static instead of choosing to expand.  They should have begun a massive grass roots campaign right after the 2010 mid term elections.  If they could have generated a huge grass roots membership then they would have had the ability to diminish or even prevent the demonizing efforts of the democrats as well as those of the mainstream republicans.

In a nutshell they should have become a real party, with a real leader, with a real platform---as in they should have decided what they stand for(As Sen. Cruz suggested--we must stand for something' and then they would not have been so vulnurable to the demonizing tactics of their opponents. 

Now some of course believe all they need to stand for is the old mantra of 'smaller government and lower taxes' which appeals to some but not to the majority of the segment of the population that would support the tea party if it offered them something they need and or want. 

Now-- when most people hear of the tea party they think of it mainy as a small group of influential rich people who want to lower their taxes and that is about it.  The word has gone forth the tea party is for the rich.  The democrats have made much mileage against the tea party via calling them a party of the rich.  Unfortunately it appears true because who is most interested in reducing their taxes?  Of course the rich.

Can anyone tell me anything the tea party stands for besides smaller government and lower taxes?
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Re: Tea party on life support after brutal primary beatdown
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2014, 01:48:47 PM »
Can anyone tell me anything the tea party stands for besides smaller government and lower taxes?

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Re: Tea party on life support after brutal primary beatdown
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2014, 02:31:05 PM »
Geez, what happened to this board?

  Seems deader than a doorknell.


I remember it as being much livilier....it has been a very long though since I have been on here.

Well, hope it improves.  I am outta here. 
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Re: Tea party on life support after brutal primary beatdown
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2014, 02:32:33 PM »
Geez, what happened to this board?

  Seems deader than a doorknell.


I remember it as being much livilier....it has been a very long though since I have been on here.

Well, hope it improves.  I am outta here.

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Re: Tea party on life support after brutal primary beatdown
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2014, 02:45:05 PM »
The teaparty proved to be a grassroots movement that sprang up almost overnight, shocking both the liberal establishment and the entrenched good old boys club.  That doesn't mean they are an organized group.  Those that choose to identify are what I would call the silent majority.  They don't join, or go to rallies or protests.  That doesn't mean that they don't see what's going on.
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Re: Tea party on life support after brutal primary beatdown
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2014, 07:31:12 AM »
Geez, what happened to this board?

  Seems deader than a doorknell.


I remember it as being much livilier....it has been a very long though since I have been on here.

Well, hope it improves.  I am outta here.

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Re: Tea party on life support after brutal primary beatdown
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2014, 09:17:47 AM »
The teaparty proved to be a grassroots movement that sprang up almost overnight, shocking both the liberal establishment and the entrenched good old boys club.  That doesn't mean they are an organized group.  Those that choose to identify are what I would call the silent majority.  They don't join, or go to rallies or protests.  That doesn't mean that they don't see what's going on.

Think more "leaderless resistance" than "grassroots movement".  Since Conservatism works more on the individual level than in a group, a "Tea Party" would never work.

I think that what is important is what is not said in the establishment approved article.  The article fails to mention Mr Sasse's win against the establishment favorite in Nebraska which is, I think, a pretty significant win and concentrates more on McConnell's.  I also find it a bit odd that the Washington Times joined in chorus with the likes of CNN in pronouncing the TEA Party dead after McConnell won.  That was less a piece of journalism and more like all of the liberal propaganda stories over the past 20 years about how Conservatism has been soundly rejected and is on the wane.

I guess we'll see what happens in November...
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A community may possess all the necessary moral qualifications, in so high a degree, as to be capable of self-government under the most adverse circumstances; while, on the other hand, another may be so sunk in ignorance and vice, as to be incapable of forming a conception of liberty, or of living, even when most favored by circumstances, under any other than an absolute and despotic government.

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Re: Tea party on life support after brutal primary beatdown
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2014, 10:52:49 AM »
WTF is a 'doorknell?'

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