N2doc stirs the hive re Scalia remarks, say it is treason

[I_B_Perky]

I figured this would wire the dump up. I was correct.   


The headline:

Justice Scalia Tells Law Students ‘Perhaps You Should Revolt’ If Taxes Become Too High

The link:

Scalia advocating treason?

The op:

n2doc (31,435 posts)

Justice Scalia Tells Law Students ‘Perhaps You Should Revolt’ If Taxes Become Too High
Source: Think Progress

During an event at the University of Tennessee’s law school on Tuesday, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia suggested to the capacity crowd that perhaps they should revolt against the U.S government if their taxes ever get too high.

During a question and answer part of the event, a student asked Scalia about the constitutionality of a federal income tax. Scalia assured the questioner that the tax was in fact permissible by the constitution, but added that if it ever became too high, “perhaps you should revolt.”

The remark, first reported by the Knoxville News Sentinel, has become a common rhetorical flourish for conservatives nationwide during the Obama presidency.

A state Tea Party chairman in Mississippi called for armed rebellion ahead of Obama’s reelection in 2012, and a Texas Judge told a local news station that he was prepared to join a “civil war” if Obama agreed to sign away U.S sovereignty to the United Nations. Michele Bachmann found herself in hot water in 2009, shortly after Obama took office, for calling upon a violent uprising against Obama, and faced accusations of using treasonous language.

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/04/19/3428747/scalia-taxes-revolt/

And awaaaay we go....

tabasco (18,908 posts)
1. Storm the Supreme Court first, mother****ers

and put criminal Fat Tony in jail first.

Anger issues?

billhicks76 (363 posts)
22. No Doubt

The rethuglicans will get their revolt if Jeb Bush becomes president. Scalia belongs in jail.

Obeekaybee

Stuart G (8,854 posts)
3. Something about "treason"

This is so awful. No words to explain...A justice of the Supreme Court talking this way...

I guess right to debate and critisize is passe now.

Initech (43,179 posts)
4. Yeah seriously how is that not treason?

I don't see revolting over taxes being defined as criticizm in the Constitution.

onenote (22,924 posts)
8. Because the Constitution defines treason specifically

And someone suggesting that if taxes get too high people should "revolt" doesn't come close to meeting the definition. Anymore than it was treason when many of us, in protesting the Vietnam war, carried signs (and sang a certain Beatles' song) about a "revolution."

Troll!!! BTW I can neither confirm now deny that is my mole.

Stuart G (8,854 posts)
21. In responce to this post..my heading is wrong...(I should not have used "treason" )

Thank You ...onenote for your opinions on this..
.I think you are correct..

I've been wrong on a lot of them...ain't the first, won't be the last....
Stuart G

Stop the presses!!!! Dummie admits he is wrong!!!!

Spitfire of ATJ (14,407 posts)
6. Lawyers are already revolting.

Courts are blocked up cause no lawyers are available?   

Swede Atlanta (3,125 posts)
7. He should resign now....

A sitting Justice needs to give great deference to the political process.

This goon and I mean goon in the mold of the Italian mafia is a disgrace. I would say the same if he was in the mold of the KKK, etc. so this is NOT a racial attack but rather a recognition that he is behaving much like others that share his ethnicity.

A judge or, especially a Justice, is to refrain from engaging in speech or actions that are intended to be political or may have the appearance of being political. We know after Bush v. Gore that many on the current Court have little respect for this precedent or this mandate.

One cannot have an independent judiciary if the members engage in public, political speech.

Both Scalia and Thomas should resign or be removed for cause. Unfortunately we will likely have to wait until age does its work and they are no longer able to ser

Oh really? What about the libs on the USSC?

onenote (22,924 posts)
14. Nonsense

Becoming a Supreme Court justice does not mean sacrificing one's right to have and express opinions on matters of public policy. William O. Douglas, one of the greatest justices in history, made no secret of his opposition to the Vietnam War. As far back as the 1950s he publicly argued that the US should recognize the People's Republic of China. There were those that attacked Douglas for speaking out. I would hate to think that anyone at DU would have been among that crowd.

You know the drill: I can neither confirm...

Botany (37,496 posts)
9. Why does he still have a job?

Urging treason and law breaking to future officers of the court.
The man acts like he is above the law. We and the world are still
dealing w/ the results of bush v Gore and yet he still keeps going
on and on. @ 78 we can always hope that his days as a judge are
numbered.

 

colsohlibgal (1,359 posts)
10. Scalia Does Not Belong On The Supreme Court

Nor does Clarence Thomas.

In the issue of "The Nation" I just got in the mail they highlighted up front the famous 1971 Lewis Powell memo and his recipe for turning the US hard right to a plutocracy. Powell specifically names the Supreme Court as an instrument that may be key in that regard. Unfortunately he was correct.

It's going to be quite hard to get it all turned around back to an actual democracy that serves the populist majority.

Yes they do dummie. They were nominated by the president at the time and confirmed by the senate.

YOHABLO (894 posts)
11. We really need to take the house and senate .. and the pres. then start impeachment proceedings

Yes you do. Except it ain't looking good for the dems this fall.

Dawson Leery (10,687 posts)
13. A few jackals training on monkey bars in Afghanistan are no where

near the threat to us as Scalia and his militia skinheads.

So Scalia masterminded 9/11? Who knew!!!

Brigid (14,426 posts)
15. Sedition, not treason.

Sedition:
1. incitement of discontent or rebellion against a government.
2. any action, especially in speech or writing, promoting such discontent or rebellion.
3. rebellious disorder.

Treason:
1. the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
2. a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state.
3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.

dictionary. com

Still, Fat Tony needs to go.

Occupation Wall Street? Dummies during the Bush Admin? Bueller? Bueller?

onenote (22,924 posts)
17. Neither sedition nor treason under US law.

Which is different than the dictionary.

I disagree sharply with virtually every decision Scalia makes, but that doesn't mean he's guilty of treason, sedition, or a crime that would likely create sufficient call for his impeachment.

Walking the fine line, I am. Oh wait... I can neither confirm nor deny <you know the rest>

wolfie001 (65 posts)
16. I'm sure this unflushed turd........

.....never approved of the Occupy Wall Street movement. Typical far RW hypocrite.

My new mole looking for street cred.

Wolf Frankula (743 posts)
18. And Stop Paying Scalia's salary

Hey fat Tony, you ARE subject to the laws of the United States. You have committed sedition many times, beginning in 2000 when you usurped the power of the House of Representatives.

Why has Scalia not been hanged?

Wolf

The party of tolerance.


Some comments not worth saying anything about:

joe_stampingbull (12 posts)
19. senile dementia?

A creep like this would uphold the Dred Scott decision.

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OnyxCollie (7,968 posts)
20. Is Fat Tony going to volunteer to be first against the wall when the revolution comes?

randr (5,243 posts)
23. After all Scalia dismantled the Democratic system we had in place

Now if a person desires changes to the laws instead of running for office they must buy a few legislators to do their bidding. The only recourse left the average citizen is rebellion and Tony the goon is fine with that.

So there are no more elections? Wow. Who knew?

allan01 (882 posts)
26. taxes are the lowest in years sir

more like sedataion than treason.

Sedation describes the libbies to a tee. They are all brain dead due to drug use.


Female Kitty has another post on the same topic.

Catwoman chimes in

Sure to grow into a big bonfire.

[Carl]

What a bunch of racists.

[Delmar]

Response to n2doc (Original post)Sat Apr 19, 2014, 09:20 PM
joe_stampingbull (12 posts)
19. senile dementia?

A creep like this would uphold the Dred Scott decision.

Oh really?

Justice Antonin Scalia made the comparison between Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992) and Dred Scott in an effort to see Roe v. Wade overturned:

[D]red Scott...rested upon the concept of "substantive due process" that the Court praises and employs today. Indeed, Dred Scott was very possibly the first application of substantive due process in the Supreme Court, the original precedent for...Roe v. Wade.[33]

Scalia noted that the Dred Scott decision, written and championed by Roger B. Taney, left the justice's reputation irrevocably tarnished. Taney, while attempting to end the disruptive question of the future of slavery, wrote a decision that aggravated sectional tensions and was considered to contribute to the American Civil War.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford

You just know that it was democrat nominees that cooked up the Dredd Scott decision so I won't waste any time looking it up.

[98ZJUSMC]

I figured this would wire the dump up. I was correct.   


The headline:

Justice Scalia Tells Law Students ‘Perhaps You Should Revolt’ If Taxes Become Too High

The link:

Scalia advocating treason?

Read that this morning.  I was thinking the same thing!   

[98ZJUSMC]

colsohlibgal (1,359 posts)
10. Scalia Does Not Belong On The Supreme Court

Nor does Clarence Thomas.

In the issue of "The Nation" I just got in the mail

I'm not surprised.  Why?  Good thing they send free crayons with it or you'd be all verklempt, huh?

[miskie]

“I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration.”

EOM.

[longview]

Swede Atlanta (3,125 posts)
7. He should resign now....

A sitting Justice needs to give great deference to the political process.  Wrong.  They sit to defend the constitution.

This goon and I mean goon in the mold of the Italian mafia is a disgrace. I would say the same if he was in the mold of the KKK, etc. so this is NOT a racial attack but rather a recognition that he is behaving much like others that share his ethnicity.  Wrong, again.  You ARE racist.

A judge or, especially a Justice, is to refrain from engaging in speech or actions that are intended to be political or may have the appearance of being political. We know after Bush v. Gore that many on the current Court have little respect for this precedent or this mandate.  ]

One cannot have an independent judiciary if the members engage in public, political speech. Still wrong.  They are allowed, and should be, to express opinions on public and political matters.

Both Scalia and Thomas should resign or be removed for cause. Unfortunately we will likely have to wait until age does its work and they are no longer able to ser  The "cause" being, cuz they don't spout what a DUmmie like to hear?  lol

[Dori]

colsohlibgal (1,359 posts)
10. Scalia Does Not Belong On The Supreme Court

Nor does Clarence Thomas.

In the issue of "The Nation" I just got in the mail]

The Senate Internal Security Subcommittee (SISS) wrote in its Report on the Scope of Soviet Activity in the United States,

“  The Nation and the New Republic have long records as liberal publications. They cannot be described as Communist, but they are so infiltrated with the Communist Party policy that they serve the interests of the Communists and confuse liberals on many issues, much more so than some of the Communist publications.[12]  ” 

http://www.conservapedia.com/Nation_(magazine)