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Trolls disrupt DU anti-gun Ft. Hood bullshit.
« on: April 03, 2014, 05:03:53 PM »
A normal anti-gun Ft Hood thread until this:

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24. FYI...
 
On Thu Apr 3, 2014, 12:39 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

The same is true with regards to drunks with vehicles.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=771455

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Poster registered on March 28 and is playing "false equivalence" by comparing guns and drunk driving. Has an axe to grind, from the multiple posts here. I smell a troll from Conservative Cave. Get on this MIRT!

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31. This was a member of the military.
 
Not exactly the "public". Should we remove all guns from the military?

As for gun laws, the shooter brought a non-registered gun onto a military post- and illegal act. How would banned guns from anyone stop someone who is going to commit an illegal act?

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57. If guns could be carried around the barracks, there would be so many more shootings.
 
No, just no.

Military command got one thing right. The rule is there for a reason.

I was in the military before this law went into place- and after. I don’t remember the total bloodshed guns in the hands of soldiers cause prior to the current law being in place. I DO remember base shootings before 9/11… didn’t seem to bring on calls of BAN GUNS!



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Re: Trolls disrupt DU anti-gun Ft. Hood bullshit.
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2014, 06:41:45 PM »
That thread took off.  Worth the read.
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Re: Trolls disrupt DU anti-gun Ft. Hood bullshit.
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2014, 08:01:30 PM »
Here's a response to that alerted on post that I've never agreed with
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Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:59 AM  Loudly (2,115 posts)

3. Every drunk driving casualty is an accident. No, it is not. The driver CHOSE to consume mind/mood altering substance, it did not accidentally fall down his/her throat

Reckless disregard for the danger notwithstanding. 'Reckless disregard...' is in fact a criminal offense in many jurisdictions, which tends to negate 'accident' in the first point.

Drunk drivers lack the intent to cause harm. Historical evidence shows that alcohol impairs judgement and coordination.  If one consumes alcohol to the impaired stage, 'lack of intent' should no longer be a defense.  He/she CHOSE to consume, with full knowledge of that historical evidence.

Unlike shooters.
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Re: Trolls disrupt DU anti-gun Ft. Hood bullshit.
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2014, 09:23:08 PM »
Drunk driving accidents kill way more than guns yearly.
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Re: Trolls disrupt DU anti-gun Ft. Hood bullshit.
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2014, 09:48:28 PM »
You know what pissed me off--and it still royally pisses me off--is that when goofy Uncle Joe Biden went to Afghanistan and spoke to the troops, they were disarmed for the public-relations stunt.

I don't ever want those in the military to be disarmed.
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Re: Trolls disrupt DU anti-gun Ft. Hood bullshit.
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2014, 09:49:35 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on April 03, 2014, 09:48:28 PM
You know what pissed me off--and it still royally pisses me off--is that when goofy Uncle Joe Biden went to Afghanistan and spoke to the troops, they were disarmed for the public-relations stunt.

I don't ever want those in the military to be disarmed.

It is ironic that soldiers are disarmed. Makes no sense to me.
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Re: Trolls disrupt DU anti-gun Ft. Hood bullshit.
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2014, 10:16:35 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on April 03, 2014, 09:48:28 PM
You know what pissed me off--and it still royally pisses me off--is that when goofy Uncle Joe Biden went to Afghanistan and spoke to the troops, they were disarmed for the public-relations stunt.

I don't ever want those in the military to be disarmed.

They did it when I met Cheney in Iraq. 
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Re: Trolls disrupt DU anti-gun Ft. Hood bullshit.
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2014, 10:40:00 PM »
Quote from: Ptarmigan on April 03, 2014, 09:49:35 PM
It is ironic that soldiers are disarmed. Makes no sense to me.

If I were a soldier on a base in the United States, working in one of the countless occupations soldiers perform, I think the last thing I'd want to do is lug a weapon around with me all day.

A war zone is one thing, Kansas or Texas or North Carolina is another.
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Re: Trolls disrupt DU anti-gun Ft. Hood bullshit.
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2014, 04:09:03 AM »
Quote from: Gina on April 03, 2014, 09:23:08 PM
Drunk driving accidents kill way more than guns yearly.

We had an incident Tuesday night, in a suburb of Albany (Bethlehem), where a seriously drunk woman got into her car (she later blew a .31 on the breathalyzer) and drove.  She got about a mile when she realized that she was too drunk to continue, so she called 911.  The local cops came out and picked her up, and said that this had never happened to them.  They mentioned that at least the woman knew that she was too drunk to drive, but it wasn't until after she had gotten part-way to her destination.  The Albany County DA may go easy on her, insofar as the law allows, but she's looking at losing ten grand on a lawyer and fines.
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Re: Trolls disrupt DU anti-gun Ft. Hood bullshit.
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2014, 05:19:55 AM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on April 03, 2014, 10:40:00 PM
If I were a soldier on a base in the United States, working in one of the countless occupations soldiers perform, I think the last thing I'd want to do is lug a weapon around with me all day.

A war zone is one thing, Kansas or Texas or North Carolina is another.

Sure.  Even the grunts spend many days where 70-80 percent of their training day (STATESIDE) entails preforming tasks where a weapon is completely superfluous.  Issuing weapons on a daily basis or, for extended periods to admin/tech types, is asking for lost weapons.  Not to mention that the issue/turn-in, cleaning, armory inspection process would be a complete time waster.  You could spend half the training day on large scale issue and turn-in.

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Re: Trolls disrupt DU anti-gun Ft. Hood bullshit.
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2014, 07:36:15 AM »
I liked Pete Hegseth's suggestion.  A certain group of individuals would have a concealed weapon, unknown to anyone else.  They would have rotating duty. 
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Re: Re: Re: Trolls disrupt DU anti-gun Ft. Hood bullshit.
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2014, 08:20:48 AM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on April 03, 2014, 10:40:00 PM
If I were a soldier on a base in the United States, working in one of the countless occupations soldiers perform, I think the last thing I'd want to do is lug a weapon around with me all day.

A war zone is one thing, Kansas or Texas or North Carolina is another.

I wouldn't want to lug one around on post on my person...but if I own a weapon legally and I have a CCL I SHOULD be able to keep it under the seat in or in the trunk of my car parked outside the motor pool. 

I can't do that right now.
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Re: Trolls disrupt DU anti-gun Ft. Hood bullshit.
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2014, 08:28:10 AM »
Quote from: dane on April 03, 2014, 08:01:30 PM
Here's a response to that alerted on post that I've never agreed with
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Response to wall_dish (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:59 AM  Loudly (2,115 posts)

3. Every drunk driving casualty is an accident. No, it is not. The driver CHOSE to consume mind/mood altering substance, it did not accidentally fall down his/her throat

Reckless disregard for the danger notwithstanding. 'Reckless disregard...' is in fact a criminal offense in many jurisdictions, which tends to negate 'accident' in the first point.

Drunk drivers lack the intent to cause harm. Historical evidence shows that alcohol impairs judgement and coordination.  If one consumes alcohol to the impaired stage, 'lack of intent' should no longer be a defense.  He/she CHOSE to consume, with full knowledge of that historical evidence.

Unlike shooters.

I have long waited for the day some liberal DUchebag attorney successfully presents the "temporary insanity" defense for drunk driving. As in, if the driver's brain weren't addled by alcohol, the driver would NEVER have made the poor decision to drive. They've gotten Kennedys off with less (ambien defense).
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Re: Trolls disrupt DU anti-gun Ft. Hood bullshit.
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2014, 08:39:37 AM »
Also, this is precisely why they all cried and moaned for a 7-person jury:

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Re: Trolls disrupt DU anti-gun Ft. Hood bullshit.
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2014, 11:00:20 AM »
I think it was CBS TV News last night.....3,800 people killed in 2012 while texting and driving......420,000 accidents caused by texting while driving.

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