The Uninformed criticize...the Uninformed

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It's all the rightwing media's fault!!!

IronLionZion (11,535 posts)







Uninsured Who Passed on Obamacare Said it was Because of Cost but Most Didn't Bother to get a Quote







 
NEW YORK (MainStreet) — Uninsured Americans who passed on signing up for Obamacare say the Affordable Care Act (ACA) was anything but affordable – and the reason they didn't buy health insurance prior to this week's deadline was because of the high cost of coverage. However, most didn't even bother to get a quote or determine if they qualified for a subsidy, according to research from nonpartisan Market Strategies International.
 
A large majority (70%) of U.S. adults who have been without health insurance for at least six months said they didn't plan to enroll before Monday's deadline. Of those, 81% said the high cost of healthcare coverage was one of the reasons why, but less than a third (32%) had actually visited a federal or state exchange website. And 29% ignored the issue altogether, not even discussing healthcare insurance with friends or family, much less looking to obtain a quote.
 
The ultimate irony? Almost 85% of those saying cost was a concern would have been eligible for a subsidized plan offering a discount.
 
"What we found is that those individuals who were the primary reason behind the ACA and its subsidies -- the low-income, uninsured -- seem to have made the assumption that health insurance remains unaffordable to them, often without exploring whether a subsidy would help them afford it," said Susan McIntyre, managing director of healthcare at Market Strategies International.
 
http://www.mainstreet.com/article/family/family-health/uninsured-who-passed-obamacare-said-it-was-because-cost-most-didnt-both?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO
 



The point I am making by posting this article is to show the unforgivable price of Republican bullshit. They are hell bent on confusing people and discouraging them from signing up. They can spew forth complete falsehoods with unwavering certainty. Apathy is a problem among the American people. And GOP is counting on this. They are counting on people who are too busy living life to bother checking for themselves so they go by what they hear from others. I'm talking about ordinary every day Republicans, not just the politicians and media personalities. The ones who spew forth horseshit to their friends, family, neighbors, coworkers, and anyone else.
 
For example, I promoted the ACA websites, phone numbers, and some basic info on how to sign up for insurance in a place that has a lot of uninsured people. I was promptly shouted down by hostile TP extremists claiming the government is going to force poor women to have abortions since its cheaper than birth and ration out care with long waits and sharing your private personal data with law enforcement and risk deportation. I couldn't believe that this info was being delivered with complete seriousness and how aggressively these guys were trying to stop people from even considering the possibility of insurance. Of course they spewed the falsehood that you don't need insurance during the open enrollment period if you're healthy, you can wait to buy it at the hospital if something happens to you.
 
I was able to get a handful signed up, with a few more promising to check out the websites and do their research first. There are people right here on DU who don't know that private marketplaces and brokers even exist as an alternative to the government sites.
 
This affects real people's lives. I challenge and remind all of you to NEVER let this type of BS go unchallenged anywhere you may see it in your personal lives. Please make sure people in your sphere of influence at least know where to get the correct info, even if you're unwilling to push them towards signing up.
 
Remember Medicaid signups are year round and have no deadline. People can still sign up with life changing events(birth, divorce, job change, spouse job change, adoption, etc) . And open enrollment starts up again in less than 6 months. Private exchanges and brokers exist. Some will even help with subsidies. We can bring down the uninsured rate in this country. New health care providers are opening up every day, at least in blue states like MD.

It's still expensive. Sorry primitive.

Proud Liberal Dem (12,805 posts)

3. "I ain't going on that Obama website!"

Idiots.

They would pay millions of dollars on junk insurance and resulting medical bills JUST to spite President Obama IMHO

calling the poor idiots.... the junk insurance line... it's really all about that black fella in the white house!

jimlup (4,498 posts)

5. The frothing at the mouth Republicans

Have really managed to scare people into thinking the thing is a disaster. Our hope for 2014 hinges on standing firmly behind the law. People are starting to discover that it can help them but it is happening slowly.

Great plan! Let's stick with this!

maindawg (515 posts)

7. statistic wise I dont give a ****

I am poor. I am not ashamed to be poor. I live along the lines of the learner class. I live to learn. I work for the people. I study the science of simplicity.
 Do I deserve to die?

A learner... that doesn't learn from it's own actions... that is in the end poor. Not much of a learner.

IronLionZion (11,535 posts)

28. I sympathize with poor liberals in red states

because it is unfortunate that some states have chosen to obstruct access to healthcare instead of supporting it. The best option may be to move.
 
Sorry for your loss

All those mountains of bodies outside the ER because their credit was checked at the door.... oh wait....

[Texacon]

You know, I've not seen a single DUmmie explain how, if someone is needing a subsidy to afford healthcare, they are going to pay any of the copays or deductibles?

Is that subsidized as well??

I truly have no idea but I think those folks are going to simply be well, and truly, screwed.

KC

[lastparker]

Uninsured Who Passed on Obamacare Said it was Because of Cost but Most Didn't Bother to get a Quote

Why bother to get a quote when anything more than ZERO is too expensive? I don't know why this concept required such a long post.

[Dori]

According to the census report in 2013, the median income for Californians with one income was $48,415.

According to CoveredCalifornia....the states version of O'Care, for a family of 4, the cost of insurance for a silver plan is;

$277 a month.  However only the adults are covered, the kids go to medicare.  The maximum out of pocket for the family (2) is $10400.

The best Platinum plan is $636 with a max out of pocket of $8000.

So if a family had a serious operation/medical need, the silver would put them out $13744 and the platinum $15632 for the year.

Silver would be 28% of their income and platinum would be 32%.

I sure don't see how that isn't considered expensive.













 

[Carl]

jimlup (4,498 posts)

5. The frothing at the mouth Republicans

Have really managed to scare people into thinking the thing is a disaster. Our hope for 2014 hinges on standing firmly behind the law. People are starting to discover that it can help them but it is happening slowly.

[DumbAss Tanker]

maindawg (515 posts)

7. statistic wise I dont give a ****

I am poor. I am not ashamed to be poor. I live along the lines of the learner class. I live to learn. I work for the people. I study the science of simplicity.
 Do I deserve to die?

If you so smaht, why ain't you rich?