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Oh my.
« on: March 29, 2014, 10:06:02 AM »
Last week I noted NU had changed her avatar to the anarchist A and I wondered what was up with that.

Then I saw this in a thread about taking away from the rich:

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36. Is everyone really so naive as to believe that if we elect politicians to send men with guns

to tear the money from the hands of the wealthy that the politicians will then -- looking at that enormous pile of wealth they have amassed -- will then turn to their armed servants and order those servants to give the money back to us?

Don't get me wrong, the corporate bailouts, etc. are on-going theft but those bailouts are being instituted by the exact same politicians we seem to think are going to suddenly ride to our rescue. There is not one righteous man in the world and yet we delude ourselves to comedic degrees if we think we can elect (435 + 100 + 1) * 0.51 righteous men for any appreciable period of time to somehow change the status quo.

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40. That's why it will take a revolution..........
 
Because the system as it is now is WHOLLY about keeping the capitalists in control of society. And that's EVERY facet of the system from the economic to the political to the social. We can attempt to change the economic, but the current political and judicial system won't allow it. We can attempt to change the political (votes), but the economic power brokers won't allow that because they control who we can vote FOR. We could possibly attempt to change society which MIGHT change the economics and the politics, but that's going to take a LONG time and the question becomes, "Do we have a long time?".

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44. "That's why it will take a revolution"

In other words, lots of bloodshed and at the end of the day the people with the guns are still making the rules for everyone else.

Screw that.

Opt out and ignore the bastards to death.

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46. The amount of violence involved in a revolution depends SOLELY....

on how vigorously the ones with the current power try to hold on to that power.

And I agree to a point with the "opt out" tactic because that will create a dual power set-up. But how long do you think that the capitalists will allow you to "opt out"? At some point they will make "opting out" illegal, one way or another. Do you really think that the PTBs will allow most of the population to "opt out" without consequence? Personally, I would bet on them NOT allowing it when it comes to the point of interfering with their profits.

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47. "how long do you think that the capitalists will allow you to 'opt out'?"

About as long as the socialists. Centralized authority is the tool of every oppressor. Never give them the tool they will use to crack your own skull.

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48. And lack of organization is also the tool of the oppressor........
 
because the ONLY advantage we have in the class war is numbers. But numbers mean nothing unless it's organized numbers.

Job One MUST be overthrowing the current system and that won't happen with everyone working independently.

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51. The System, (LLC) only works because it organizes people.

It stuffs people in to tidy little categories. One of the biggest proponents of classism are the ones who supposedly preach against it. "Woe is the Lower Class!" they wail, but they'll be damned if they ever allow the Lower Class to be anything other than Lower Class. They sure as Hell won't ever let the Lower Class rise to the Upper Class because then they would lose their congregation. Like preachers who only preach against sin to get you into church so they can stuff a collection plate in front of your face.

Where would the top of the pyramid sit if all the other bricks wandered off on their own? Nailing Jell-O to a wall, squeezing a balloon only to watch it bulge out elsewhere, herding cats; whatever analogy you prefer.

BE THE JELL-O BALLOON CAT!

Or not. I'm not here to tell people what to do but take advice from a friend: Never trade one master for another.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024746662#post36


So I did a DU search on her user name and "anarchist."

I found this:


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Is this something? I think this might be something.
 
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Christian anarchism is a movement in political theology and political philosophy which synthesizes Christianity and anarchism. It is grounded in the belief that there is only one source of authority to which Christians are ultimately answerable, the authority of God as embodied in the teachings of Jesus, and thus rejects the idea that human governments have ultimate authority over human societies. Christian anarchists denounce the state as they claim it is violent, deceitful and, when glorified, idolatrous.

More than any other Bible source, the Sermon on the Mount is used as the basis for Christian anarchism. Most Christian anarchists are pacifists and reject the use of violence, such as war. Leo Tolstoy's The Kingdom of God Is Within You is often regarded as a key text for modern Christian anarchism.

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Origins

Old Testament

Jacques Ellul recounts that at the end of the Book of Judges (Judges 21:25) there was no king in Israel and "everyone did as they saw fit". Later in the first Book of Samuel (1 Samuel 8) the people of Israel wanted a king to be like other nations. God declared that the people had rejected him as their king. He warned that a human king would lead to militarism, conscription and taxation, and that their pleas for mercy from the king's demands would go unanswered. Samuel passed on God's warning to the Israelites but they still demanded a king. Saul was chosen as their king. Much of the subsequent Old Testament chronicles them trying to live with this decision.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_anarchism

The rest of the wiki article is rather fascinating.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12221309
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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2014, 10:11:05 AM »
I wonder if these idiots ever considered that the capitalists could easily "opt out" too.  Then where would their little revolution be?





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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2014, 10:20:41 AM »
The Nuclear Unicorn wears a tin foil hat and smokes a bong with a deep bowl.  Wow.

And a PS regarding Jack's interpretation of a small section of the Bible:  Anyone who thinks the Israelites "did as they saw fit," has never read Leviticus.

Good grief.

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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2014, 11:08:48 AM »
They should really read the book of Judges. In Judges, God is the King and the Hebrews would ignore Him, then they would be oppressed by the Philistines, cry out to God to save them and be given a judge by God who would win their freedom. The Hebrews would promise fidelity to the Lord and then go back to doing what every they wanted... Lather, rinse and repeat. I suspect nothing has changed in human nature over the last 3000 years that would cause this form of government behave any different

As for the Christian Anarchists, they ignore this passage from Romans 13:1-8.
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Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you.
For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.
This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing.
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Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law.

Christians must obey those in charge unless they are required by the government to do something that violates the will of God. There is absolutely no Biblical basis for Christian Anarchy
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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2014, 11:09:13 AM »
The Nuclear Unicorn wears a tin foil hat and smokes a bong with a deep bowl.  Wow.

I'm happy to see her shut-up Socialist_in_TN.
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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2014, 11:31:19 AM »
I guess she hasn't paid attention much to the exodus of business overseas, reducing their tax burdens to near zero, or in some cases, negative.

Then again, "going Galt" ain't just words in a book, toots.
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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2014, 11:41:36 AM »
And a PS regarding Jack's interpretation of a small section of the Bible:  Anyone who thinks the Israelites "did as they saw fit," has never read Leviticus.

The verse does say "In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes," so I believe it. The point being that everyone doing what is right in their own eyes is not a good thing; God expected His people to be obedient to His law and not to their own desires. It seems they weren't doing that.

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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2014, 12:54:42 PM »
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46. The amount of violence involved in a revolution depends SOLELY....

on how vigorously the ones with the current power try to hold on to that power.

The Tennessee socialist is straining to ignore the history of leftist, statist, collectivist revolutions.

How many Frenchmen were murdered  by the revolutionaries in the "The Reign of Terror" at the end of the French Revolution?
How many Soviets were murdered by the revolutionaries in Stalin's purges?
How many Chinese were murdered by the revolutionaries at the end of Mao's "Glorious Revolution"?
How many Cubans were murdered by Castro's revolutionaries?
How many South Vietnamese teachers, policemen, businessmen, and farmers were murdered by Ho Chi Minh's revolutionaries?

Leftist, statist, collectivist revolutionaries love to murder weak, unarmed people; they are easy targets.

Compare that to the greatest historical example of a real revolution "of the people". How many Americans were murdered by the government after Cornwall surrendered at Yorktown?


Now, let's infuse a little light and truth into the Tennessee socialist's propoganda:

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But how long do you think that the capitalists collectivist socialists will allow you to "opt out"? At some point they will make "opting out" illegal, one way or another. Do you really think that the PTBs Authoritarian State will allow most of the population to "opt out" without consequence? Personally, I would bet on them NOT allowing it when it comes to the point of interfering with their profits ideology of control.
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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2014, 12:58:33 PM »
The Tennessee socialist is straining to ignore the history of leftist, statist, collectivist revolutions.

How many Frenchmen were murdered  by the revolutionaries in the "The Reign of Terror" at the end of the French Revolution?
How many Soviets were murdered by the revolutionaries in Stalin's purges?
How many Chinese were murdered by the revolutionaries at the end of Mao's "Glorious Revolution"?
How many Cubans were murdered by Castro's revolutionaries?
How many South Vietnamese teachers, policemen, businessmen, and farmers were murdered by Ho Chi Minh's revolutionaries?

Leftist, statist, collectivist revolutionaries love to murder weak, unarmed people; they are easy targets.

Compare that to the greatest historical example of a real revolution "of the people". How many Americans were murdered by the government after Cornwall surrendered at Yorktown?


Now, let's infuse a little light and truth into the Tennessee socialist's propoganda:




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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2014, 01:02:55 PM »
Marxist governments never allow an opt out.
Which direction were the guns on the Berlin Wall pointed DUmbass n Tennessee?

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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2014, 01:03:54 PM »
Marxist governments never allow an opt out.
Which direction were the guns on the Berlin Wall pointed DUmbass n Tennessee?

More steel.  :cheersmate:

BTW, let's not forget Pol Pot's killing fields.
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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2014, 01:16:17 PM »
Nuclear Unicorn may be the best mole ever.

10,000 posts of pure moonbattery, followed by full-on Ayn Rand!

To whomever is Nuclear Unicorn's puppet master: well played.
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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2014, 01:37:51 PM »
DUmmies have already opted out of working and reality and have been sucking the government tit.....opting out won't be allowed after the revolution no matter which side wins.
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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2014, 01:45:53 PM »
I do agree that glorification of The State, and by extension, worshipping politicians, is idolatrous.  It offends me to the core to witness the deification of one BHO by the idiotic, drooling masses.


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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2014, 01:57:17 PM »
I am so confused. I thought that King Barky being elected was to usher in the Utopian Society every leftist dreams of. Instead it brought what socialism always does, misery and soon death.
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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2014, 02:13:56 PM »
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40. That's why it will take a revolution..........
 

Let me try and break this down so you'll understand it, DUmbass:  Ideologues start collectivist "revolutions" with the funding and support of pragmatists.  Once the "revolution" is over, the pragmatists assume control.  Once they have assumed control, their next target is the ideologues.

Lather, rinse, repeat...
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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2014, 05:42:30 PM »
More steel.

With democrats it's steal.

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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2014, 06:42:12 PM »
I am so confused. I thought that King Barky being elected was to usher in the Utopian Society every leftist dreams of. Instead it brought what socialism always does, misery and soon death.
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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2014, 06:43:09 PM »
I wonder if these idiots ever considered that the capitalists could easily "opt out" too.  
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Let's just say that the idea has occurred to a few people besides the DU Commie trash.
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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2014, 07:04:13 PM »
I do agree that glorification of The State, and by extension, worshipping politicians, is idolatrous.  It offends me to the core to witness the deification of one BHO by the idiotic, drooling masses.



These cretins for years have been obsessed with having a secular messiah...that is what they thought Barry Omoron was...the person to give them every last wish their hearts could desire.

They actually are more "religious" in their beliefs then the average Christian they spit on every chance they can.

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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2014, 07:11:26 PM »
These cretins for years have been obsessed with having a secular messiah...that is what they thought Barry Omoron was...the person to give them every last wish their hearts could desire.

They actually are more "religious" in their beliefs then the average Christian they spit on every chance they can.

And their "god" is Baal, or Mammon.
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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2014, 07:17:49 PM »
And their "god" is Baal, or Mammon.

Yes,at the end of everything that is exactly it neighbor!  :cheersmate:

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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2014, 07:22:37 PM »
Yes,at the end of everything that is exactly it neighbor!  :cheersmate:

May the Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on me at the end of my life . . . ('Course, now wouldn't hurt either! O-) )

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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2014, 07:40:25 PM »
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36. Is everyone really so naive as to believe that if we elect politicians to send men with guns

to tear the money from the hands of the wealthy that the politicians will then -- looking at that enormous pile of wealth they have amassed -- will then turn to their armed servants and order those servants to give the money back to us?

The DUmmies are naive enough to believe this.  They really are that naive.
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Re: Oh my.
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2014, 08:24:56 PM »
As Nuclear Unicorn clearly demonstrates, all DUmmies ultimately desire a bloody Stalinist purge.

You might want to re-read her posts.

It's Socialist_in_TN that's the commie.
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