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Here we go again....lazerass
« on: March 25, 2014, 01:12:12 PM »
Starts off fairly innocent, then got funny.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014764577
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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:31 PM
laserhaas (1,379 posts) <---Private attorney General

Hobby Lobby case: Justices skeptical of White House position
  
Source: Politico Pro

The Supreme Court expressed skepticism today of the legality of the Obama administration's refusal to accommodate for-profit companies' religious objections to the Obamacare contraceptive requirement.

A majority of the justices seemed particularly doubtful of the administration's claim that for-profit companies have no religious rights under federal law.

The Obama administration says the provision advances a “compelling” government interest in promoting preventive health care and that it does so in the least intrusive way, without unconstitutionally impinging on religious freedom.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/hobby-lobby-case-supreme-court-104999.html?hp=l3

It is real simple premise. Sayeth the wannabe lawyer.

If your entity is a Non-Profit, you can "express" your political views;
but you CAN'T impose them on your staff and the public.

A corporation (such as the U.S. Government) - can NOT impose their political beliefs on others.

For profit businesses can't hope to treat the public at large as et al consumers;
but put doctrines contrary to law (and common sense) to enslave workers to owners beliefs.

Ted Nugent would start a gun company tomorrow and compel everyone to own a gun! bloody damn idiot
They started whining and hooting, drawing totally erroneous analogies.
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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #1)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:26 PM

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27. Sounds like it might be worse than that.

Who the hell is arguing the case on our side? Bozo the Clown?  
Yes.  :-)
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Response to malthaussen (Reply #3)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:31 PM

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32. Corporations are (by nature) fictitious pseudo entities and can't have a conscience by nature

they are civil machines utilized for specific goals.

Some give out .00001 to charities;
but few (such as that tennis shoe company)
give out - for the sake of giving.
Sayeth the untrained, willfully ignorant twit.
A little more  :panic: :panic: then....
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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:38 PM

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38. Hey, don't jump my cart "calimary'. I'm suing Romney, Bain etc for Racketeering, We go to court Apr the 14th. <---Must remember that date.

I can tell you that (currently) - my opponents are in a pickle  :lmao: :lmao:
Uh uh, we can hardly wait for the fun.

CU member Carol, is the one that pointed out lazerass for this.
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Re: Here we go again....lazerass
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2014, 01:16:28 PM »
Isn't racketeering a criminal matter? I'm not an expert a gNads on legal matters, but isn't "suing for racketeering" like "suing for murder"? Or is it also a civil matter?
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Re: Here we go again....lazerass
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2014, 01:49:53 PM »
I wonder if laserhaas dimbulb's mama knows her retarded son is getting on the 'puter when she's not looking. :thatsright:
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Re: Here we go again....lazerass
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2014, 03:09:12 PM »
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A corporation (such as the U.S. Government)

The U.S. government is a corporation?   :mental:  Currently, I believe that lazerass is the most insane person on the DU.  But I could be wrong.

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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:39 PM

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39. So essentially...
 
The SC siding with Hobby Lobby on this could lead to businesses declaring themselves as "faith healers" to be exempted from having to provide any health coverage at all?
   :mental:

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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:58 PM

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48. Exactly!
 
What if the owner believes in circumcisions and wants all male employees to have one?
  Wonder if that's a mole, trying to stir the pot?

« Last Edit: March 25, 2014, 03:21:53 PM by Karin »
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Re: Here we go again....lazerass
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2014, 03:47:49 PM »
Quote from: Karin on March 25, 2014, 03:09:12 PM
The U.S. government is a corporation?   :mental:  Currently, I believe that lazerass is the most insane person on the DU.  But I could be wrong.
   :mental:
  Wonder if that's a mole, trying to stir the pot?



Absolutely not, no way, nope.
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Re: Here we go again....lazerass
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2014, 03:58:40 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on March 25, 2014, 01:16:28 PM
Isn't racketeering a criminal matter? I'm not an expert a gNads on legal matters, but isn't "suing for racketeering" like "suing for murder"? Or is it also a civil matter?

There are both civil and criminal provisions in the racketeering laws.  The fact the dweeb is representing himself is a pretty sound indicator that even the hungriest, least ethical American Trial Lawyers' Association vulture didn't see any percentage in taking it on for him.
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Re: Here we go again....lazerass
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2014, 04:35:03 PM »
One of the Looney liberal justices pointed out that Hobby Lobby could save money by cutting off insurance for all employees and just pay the $2000 fine instead of paying the fine for not offering insurance that covers abortifacients.

Hobby Lobby currently covers most forms of contraceptives.  Their complaint comes down to having to provide the so-called morning after pills and the ones that cause abortions. They have no problem with birth control, they don't like being willing contributors to murder.
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Re: Here we go again....lazerass
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2014, 05:27:26 PM »
Shaddup LaysHerAss.
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Re: Here we go again....lazerass
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2014, 05:38:20 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on March 25, 2014, 03:58:40 PM
There are both civil and criminal provisions in the racketeering laws.  The fact the dweeb is representing himself is a pretty sound indicator that even the hungriest, least ethical American Trial Lawyers' Association vulture didn't see any percentage in taking it on for him.

You owe vultures an apology.

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Re: Here we go again....lazerass
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2014, 07:38:21 PM »
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Their complaint comes down to having to provide the so-called morning after pills and the ones that cause abortions.
Thundley is correct.  That's the point.
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