"It's Not Barry's Fault!" ref: healthcare and single payer.

[dutch508]

Of course it isn't the king's fault. HE tried to get the plan passed...

Yavin4 (19,356 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024719668

If you think that the Congress in 2009/2010 would have passed Single Payer legislation
then you are either completely ignorant about the politics at the time or you are cherry picking facts in order to manipulate DU opinion.

Here's my proof. Without ANY Republican support for ANY healthcare reform, the president needed to get 100% support from the Democratic caucus. And that caucus included Sen. Joe Lieberman from CT.

IOW, Single Payer would need Lieberman's support, and he was against it.

Anything else is just pure manipulative BULLSHIT from the hate Obama crowd who would be better served to use their time and energy to get progressives elected to congress instead of using DU forums to sap the morale of potential democratic activists. Or maybe that's what they really want to do, esp. if you're a Paulbot looking to turn gullible voters.

 


Those gawddammed Paulbot!!!!

1000words (2,473 posts)
27. The machine decided it was better off with Lieberman

Regardless of what the voters wanted.

There's the problem.

Skidmore (30,854 posts)
8. Suppressing the vote comes to mind...

or there's the old standby of divide and conquer.

 

cui bono (10,772 posts)
34. Your OP saps morale of potentional democratic activists.

You also fail to recognize that there was never any effort to pass single-payer. There was never a good effort to pass the public option either. We all learned as children that if you don't try you can't succeed.

Also, if you want to end up with the public option, you start by fighting for single-payer.

You want to sap morale? Keep giving up before you try for anything. Keep not fighting for the people. Never take a stand for what you believe in. That'll do it.

TransitJohn (5,554 posts)
59. That's a pretty good hippie punch and a blame the left thing to say

But it's a great straw man. What was actually promised and then abandoned was the 'robust public option'. If that had simply been included, 90% of the left's unhappiness with the PPACA wouldn't exist, because there'd be a price control with power.

DU eating their own. This election cycle is going to be so entertaining.

[JohnnyReb]

Of course it's not his fault, he is always blameless, pure as the new driven snow, that's why they call him messiah.

....and, if you never do anything, then you make no mistakes.

[Texacon]

This news on top of Nate Silver's prediction(s) are absolutely KILLING them.   

KC

[jukin]

Until something goes right it will never be King Barky the Incompetent's fault. However, when/if it does go right it will be 110% all due to Obama. I remember when he flew the helicopter and then stormed Osama's house and killed him personally right after he was called off the golf course.