DU: Defending your right to falsely accuse people of rape

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

geek tragedy (37,804 posts)

1. oh christ, here we go again.

No, perjury and lying to police is not as bad as rape.

False rape reports are several scales of magnitude smaller as a problem than rape is

****.

Agschmid (6,979 posts)

2. Pretty sure committing a rape is worse...

Crap OP, IMO.

bettyellen (23,473 posts)

4. if you actually cared about rape victims, you would not pretend this is a more commmon thing

than lying about any other crime. Not interested in posting about that though, huh?

There's a checklist of things you have to post about before you can post about false rape allegations?

bettyellen (23,473 posts)

20. I'm not jumping to conclusions that he is falsely saying it's on par with rape

which is a load of horseshit.

How about having strange men with guns lead you away against your will, strip you naked, watch you shower and sleep and control every facet of your life with no power to protect yourself?

Would that be like rape?

Because that is what prison is like.

bettyellen (23,473 posts)

34. and it is incredibly rare that it happens. It didn't even happen in the OP, LOL....

I suppose it's just wishful thinking on the OP's part, huh?

Which means what?

White Hispanics hunting down black teenagers has yet to be proven to have actually occurred and yet you assholes won't shut the **** up about it.

Meanwhile, speaking of unproven and rare allegations...

Luminous Animal (20,718 posts)

33. And the OP is a big ****ing lie. The woman (attending a Christian college) never claimed rape.

I, for one, believe her original complaint. And I believe that this Christian College (and her parents) forced her to recant.

And I believe she is now a target.

Christians: they want you to rape their daughters.

I think they're (deliberately) confusing Christianity for Islam again.

Luminous Animal (20,718 posts)

28. The woman never claimed rape. You are being lead by the nose. Read the link. Not one rape accusation

leveled,

lumberjack_jeff (27,664 posts)
36. She claimed to have been sexually assaulted.

On March 7, Newberry told St. Charles police that she had been attacked in the basement bathroom of Butler Library earlier that week. Newberry told police a man had been hiding in one of the stalls, came up behind her and attempted to remove her leggings.

The implication is strong that this wasn't simply an attempted stocking theft.

The distinction between "rape" and "sexual assault", depending on the circumstances, either seems vitally important or completely immaterial.

I'm unclear why someone would make a false claim such as this without naming a perpetrator - at least revenge is a rational motive. Abhorrent and shitty, but rational.

Luminous Animal (20,718 posts)

38. ATTEMPTING TO REMOVE STOCKINGS IS NOT RAPE. THE OP IS A LIE.

Sarah Ibarruri (19,962 posts)

12. Right but you're giving the exceptions to disprove the rule. That's um, very very silly, no?

So 1 liar cancels out the fact that every 2 minutes a woman in the U.S. is raped? Nah-huh. You didn't really just try to do that, did you?

WTF?

These assholes are diseased.

Luminous Animal (20,718 posts)

23. Indeed. A Christian College, and the parents who sent her there have no agenda.

Oh, by the way, she never claimed rape but rather, she claimed sexual assault.

VanillaRhapsody (7,857 posts)

82. this person never claimed to be raped....they claimed sexual assault...

it was a Christian school ....she later recanted. I do not trust that they didn't coerce this woman to recant because of that.

And NO it still doesn't equal rape....rape is a life sentence....the effects NEVER go away...so obviously you have never been raped either.

Those who have never BEEN Raped...should NEVER try to equate Rape to ANYTHING...YOU have no idea! Would you ever compare say the pain of Childbirth to anything else? NO you wouldn't....but somehow you feel YOU have the knowledge to compare rape!

Please just stop you are embarrassing yourself.

JJChambers (387 posts)

90. I've noticed that she becomes hysterical

As well as illogical when it comes to rape topics. I suspect she has been a victim of sexual assault in the past and is incapable of being rational about the topic. I try to view her comments in this light and it helps me not judge her harshly, even when she is being unreasonable or hysterical.

VanillaRhapsody (7,857 posts)

94. Unreasonable? How dare you.....

do you also tell Black people how it feels to be Black? But somehow YOU know all about what "rape is like" and can make a false analogy...and then you have the nerve to belittle me???

JJChambers (387 posts)

99. Yes, unreasonable

Have you been falsely accused and then imprisoned for the remainder of your adult life, for a serious crime which you did not commit? Oh, you haven't? I guess you're incapable of offering an opinion.

Stupid, isn't it??

Take a step back and a deep breath. You ARE being unreasonable, illogical and hysterical.

And on it goes.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024694451

[Wineslob]

No wonder these "people" are so unhappy. Their lives are so boring they have to sit back and make up shit to be "poutraged" about.

[Carl]

In a lot of ways it seems claiming to be raped has become a badge of honor and right of passage for DUmbass feminazies.

It is a shame because that mindset is not going to help those who have been and in fact over time it will actually hurt victims by minimizing what rape is.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

In a lot of ways it seems claiming to be raped has become a badge of honor and right of passage for DUmbass feminazies.

It is a shame because that mindset is not going to help those who have been and in fact over time it will actually hurt victims by minimizing what rape is.

But God forbid a woman wants to shoot an attacker.

[DumbAss Tanker]

bettyellen (23,473 posts)

34. and it is incredibly rare that it happens. It didn't even happen in the OP, LOL....

From the experience of a long and varied legal career, I can tell you 'Oh, Hell no, it isn't.'  It IS considerably more rare that actual rape, but false allegations of rape or sexual assault are hardly uncommon at all...usually by way of the 'Victim' trying to cover her ass for something she shouldn't have done, and not necessarily something even involving the alleged perp.

[BannedFromDU]

In a lot of ways it seems claiming to be raped has become a badge of honor and right of passage for DUmbass feminazies.

It is a shame because that mindset is not going to help those who have been and in fact over time it will actually hurt victims by minimizing what rape is.

     Well, think about it. If you're hopelessly ugly, or a fire-breathing lesbian, you stand almost no chance of getting your Abortion ribbon there. You CAN, however, cry RAPE and get your Rape ribbon, with oak leaf cluster, to boot.

[JohnnyReb]

From the experience of a long and varied legal career, I can tell you 'Oh, Hell no, it isn't.'  It IS considerably more rare that actual rape, but false allegations of rape or sexual assault are hardly uncommon at all...usually by way of the 'Victim' trying to cover her ass for something she shouldn't have done, and not necessarily something even involving the alleged perp.

1980, deaf, mute teenager got 20 years because a drunk, married woman took a liking to him in a bar and got her some. The husband found out and she screamed rape.

I hope the lying bitch never had another orgasm in her life.

Remembering this ruins my day every time it crosses my mind.

[BannedFromDU]

From the experience of a long and varied legal career, I can tell you 'Oh, Hell no, it isn't.'  It IS considerably more rare that actual rape, but false allegations of rape or sexual assault are hardly uncommon at all...usually by way of the 'Victim' trying to cover her ass for something she shouldn't have done, and not necessarily something even involving the alleged perp.

     Can you imagine criminal code written by DUmmies? Lady Justice would need to drop the scales or the sword, since the DUmmy Lady Justice would have to be shown pulling the blindfold down to see if one of the parties is a white male.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

From the experience of a long and varied legal career, I can tell you 'Oh, Hell no, it isn't.'  It IS considerably more rare that actual rape, but false allegations of rape or sexual assault are hardly uncommon at all...usually by way of the 'Victim' trying to cover her ass for something she shouldn't have done, and not necessarily something even involving the alleged perp.

The reason they are so wildly angry about this is because when they paint American society as a "rape culture" they too are making false accusations of rape against innocent people.

They are defending the illicit power to gain advantage by state power exercised through deceit.

[Ptarmigan]

1980, deaf, mute teenager got 20 years because a drunk, married woman took a liking to him in a bar and got her some. The husband found out and she screamed rape.

I hope the lying bitch never had another orgasm in her life.

Remembering this ruins my day every time it crosses my mind.

That is horrible!

[NHSparky]

The reason they are so wildly angry about this is because when they paint American society as a "rape culture" they too are making false accusations of rape against innocent people.

They are defending the illicit power to gain advantage by state power exercised through deceit.

And as we all know, rape isn't about sex, it's about power.  Or falsely alleging it is about power.

I will agree, false allegations of rape/sexual assault are rarer than real reports, but still far too common, and hurt all REAL victims.

Right, Crystal Magnum?