primitives dream of being a new Mao

[Lord Undies]

bean fidhleir  (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-01-08 02:58 PM
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Your Top 10 priorities if you had dictatorial power in the USA?
   
What would be the very first things, in priority order, that you would decree be changed? You can have up to 10, but they have to be specific, changes that could be described in legislation or a constitutional amendment. No vague statements like "end poverty".

What are the 10 things in the worst need of fixing?

#10 - (made number ten so I could play too) Resign as dictator, go back to being a Constitutional Republic with free elections.

#9 - Repeal all Sarbanes-Oxley type laws dealing with antitrust issues. Abolish antitrust laws altogether via constitutional amendment.

#8 - Eliminate the Department of Education. All schools would be private. The cost of Kindergarden - 12th grade would be tax deductable. Corporations and individuals could get tax breaks equal to the cost of school scholarships for kids of their choosing. (Microsoft/etc can send kids to college for tax breaks, so can GE or P&G or Uncle Joe) Sponsorship of education gets an equal tax break.

#7 - Massive deregulation,  particularly of competition killing deals. (For example, Cable companies could be in any market offering any package they find a willing buyer for. Same goes for Power companies or Phone companies or any other buisness that currently enjoys government protection from the free market)

#6 - Constitutional amendment guaranteeing the right to private property with an eminent domain clause forcing the government to pay 2X market value for seized property. The government would also have to prove in court that the property gained by ED is for public use and the original owner is first in line to buy the property back if the land is to be sold again as private property at any point in the future.

#5 - Privatize social security, end medicare and medicaid.

#4 - No man or woman who serves in the military full time has to pay income tax for the duration of their service. No military member wounded in the line of duty has to pay income tax for the rest of their lives. Dependents/Spouses of those killed in the line of duty get generous compensation pay untill the children are 18 and free college scholarships to any school they are accepted into.

#3 - End selective service and the possibility of a draft by constitutional amendment.

#2 - End the Federal Reserve and return to the gold standard.

#1 - Send secret service to find the girl I talked to in the coffee shop the other day and ask her out on a date for me.

Hey! That was easy. It's good to be the King. 

Your #3 and #1 are a bit concerning.  There may come a day we need a draft regardless of our good intentions, and what kind of loser has to intimidate a girl to get a date?

[Carl]

They live in a world of make believe where day is night and water runs uphill if they wish it to.

There is no cure for what ails them because they don`t want sanity and reality.

My only wish is that they could be transported to the socialist utopia that they dream of and find out what it is like to exist on cold potato soup and hard bread while the few percent of those in charge really do keep them at bay by the threat of incarceration.

It has been tried but these folks are too ignorant by choice to admit it.

[dandi]

I could hear a million immigrants saying, "Oh man, didn't I just escape from this shit a few years ago?"

 

[Peter3_1]

OK, I'LL TRY AGAIN.


Can't someone link these azzhats to:
Smoot-Hawley Terrifs

The Great Depression

The Brain Drain

Capital flight

Isolationism

America firsters

Fortress America

Retalitaory Tarriffs

Trade Wars

Populism

Why don't they wake up, our first "Foreign War" was against the Barbary Pirates (islamofascists , in fact) under the administration of THOMAS JEFFERSON!

EVERYTHING THESE IJITS have posted has been tried AND FAILED VERY BIG TIME! They gave us WW1, WW2, The Great Depression, just to name a few, and these geniouses economic thoughts gave us FDR who , thru the CCC, Nat. Rec. Act., EXTENDED the suffering until 12-7-1941!

That is what passes for political thought at the DU?!

[Lord Undies]

OK, I'LL TRY AGAIN.


Can't someone link these azzhats to:
Smoot-Hawley Terrifs

The Great Depression

The Brain Drain

Capital flight

Isolationism

America firsters

Fortress America

Retalitaory Tarriffs

Trade Wars

Populism

Why don't they wake up, our first "Foreign War" was against the Barbary Pirates (islamofascists , in fact) under the administration of THOMAS JEFFERSON!

EVERYTHING THESE IJITS have posted has been tried AND FAILED VERY BIG TIME! They gave us WW1, WW2, The Great Depression, just to name a few, and these geniouses economic thoughts gave us FDR who , thru the CCC, Nat. Rec. Act., EXTENDED the suffering until 12-7-1941!

That is what passes for political thought at the DU?!

They don't care.  You could show them charts and graphs and color slides and it would not make one bit of difference.  You wanna know why?  Because their actual goals have nothing to do with their phony concerns.  They don't give a flip about the future.  All they want to do is destroy their political/capitalist enemies RIGHT NOW.  Any harm and suffering after that is collateral damage.

[ReardenSteel]

bean fidhleir  (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-01-08 02:58 PM
Original message

Your Top 10 priorities if you had dictatorial power in the USA?
   
What would be the very first things, in priority order, that you would decree be changed? You can have up to 10, but they have to be specific, changes that could be described in legislation or a constitutional amendment. No vague statements like "end poverty".

What are the 10 things in the worst need of fixing?

#10 - (made number ten so I could play too) Resign as dictator, go back to being a Constitutional Republic with free elections.

#9 - Repeal all Sarbanes-Oxley type laws dealing with antitrust issues. Abolish antitrust laws altogether via constitutional amendment.

#8 - Eliminate the Department of Education. All schools would be private. The cost of Kindergarden - 12th grade would be tax deductable. Corporations and individuals could get tax breaks equal to the cost of school scholarships for kids of their choosing. (Microsoft/etc can send kids to college for tax breaks, so can GE or P&G or Uncle Joe) Sponsorship of education gets an equal tax break.

#7 - Massive deregulation,  particularly of competition killing deals. (For example, Cable companies could be in any market offering any package they find a willing buyer for. Same goes for Power companies or Phone companies or any other buisness that currently enjoys government protection from the free market)

#6 - Constitutional amendment guaranteeing the right to private property with an eminent domain clause forcing the government to pay 2X market value for seized property. The government would also have to prove in court that the property gained by ED is for public use and the original owner is first in line to buy the property back if the land is to be sold again as private property at any point in the future.

#5 - Privatize social security, end medicare and medicaid.

#4 - No man or woman who serves in the military full time has to pay income tax for the duration of their service. No military member wounded in the line of duty has to pay income tax for the rest of their lives. Dependents/Spouses of those killed in the line of duty get generous compensation pay untill the children are 18 and free college scholarships to any school they are accepted into.

#3 - End selective service and the possibility of a draft by constitutional amendment.

#2 - End the Federal Reserve and return to the gold standard.

#1 - Send secret service to find the girl I talked to in the coffee shop the other day and ask her out on a date for me.

Hey! That was easy. It's good to be the King. 

Your #3 and #1 are a bit concerning.  There may come a day we need a draft regardless of our good intentions, and what kind of loser has to intimidate a girl to get a date?

For number three I just don't go for compulsory service of any kind. George Washington didn't need it. Abe lincoln didn't need it. FDR had it but I bet he didn't need it. Besides all that, it's just not right. I belive if our national self defense demands it, we will get all we need. And if we are comming up short, we just increase the pay and benifits etc till we get there.

As to number one, finding her was the key point, I guess I could then ask her out myself,  intimidation need never come into it, lol. But I'd gladly scrap that one for a flat tax with 20/20 hindsight. 

[Peter3_1]

Actually, Abe did need a draft. The Irish rioted over it , and there was the famous NYC Draft riots, hundreds were shot dead by the US Army who went in to restore order.

[ReardenSteel]

Actually, Abe did need a draft. The Irish rioted over it , and there was the famous NYC Draft riots, hundreds were shot dead by the US Army who went in to restore order.

Damn! I knew I should have checked up on that one. That's fairly familiar now that I read that. 

I still don't know that Abe "needed" a draft but it sure came with some troubles. What Abe really needed was some generals who would fight. The South got damn near all of the really good ones there. (and that's all I'll say about that before I accedently start a Civil War thread, lol)

On edit:

Double checking some forgotten history lessons I can say with some confidence that the Civil War drafts were not needed and caused more trouble than they were worth. But I'm glad to have been corrected on my history and made to look some stuff up.

[Chris_]

#4 - No man or woman who serves in the military full time has to pay income tax for the duration of their service. No military member wounded in the line of duty has to pay income tax for the rest of their lives. Dependents/Spouses of those killed in the line of duty get generous compensation pay untill the children are 18 and free college scholarships to any school they are accepted into.

The rest might require you being dictator.  This one makes sense and could and should happen -- RETROACTIVELY -- for every soldier, past or present (except maybe ex-Marine murtha and other traitors like john kerry) now.  The cost would be minimal and the fairness and gratitude maximal.

[Peter3_1]

No prob., back in the day we actually learned American History. It was Jr. AND Sr. years in HS . iT WAS QUITE RIGEROUS AND, i GOT THE 2ND HIGHEST GRADE after 2 full years of work, a 92. Highest grade? 93.

[Chris_]

No prob., back in the day we actually learned American History. It was Jr. AND Sr. years in HS . iT WAS QUITE RIGEROUS AND, i GOT THE 2ND HIGHEST GRADE after 2 full years of work, a 92. Highest grade? 93.

So, clearly, you suck  ;)

[ReardenSteel]

#4 - No man or woman who serves in the military full time has to pay income tax for the duration of their service. No military member wounded in the line of duty has to pay income tax for the rest of their lives. Dependents/Spouses of those killed in the line of duty get generous compensation pay untill the children are 18 and free college scholarships to any school they are accepted into.

The rest might require you being dictator.  This one makes sense and could and should happen -- RETROACTIVELY -- for every soldier, past or present (except maybe ex-Marine murtha and other traitors like john kerry) now.  The cost would be minimal and the fairness and gratitude maximal.

Considering all the money people in the military (or any government job) is just other people's tax dollars to begin with, the cost would be fairly small. However, in the case of non-military government workers I'd recomend the no taxes thing too (to save paperwork) but mitigate that cost by paying them less. (iow, only the military gets the de-facto raise)

Idealy, my #4 will also fix any potential problems from my #3. 

[EastFacingNorth]

bean fidhleir  (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-01-08 02:58 PM
Original message

Your Top 10 priorities if you had dictatorial power in the USA?
   
What would be the very first things, in priority order, that you would decree be changed? You can have up to 10, but they have to be specific, changes that could be described in legislation or a constitutional amendment. No vague statements like "end poverty".

What are the 10 things in the worst need of fixing?

#10 - (made number ten so I could play too) Resign as dictator, go back to being a Constitutional Republic with free elections.

#9 - Repeal all Sarbanes-Oxley type laws dealing with antitrust issues. Abolish antitrust laws altogether via constitutional amendment.

#8 - Eliminate the Department of Education. All schools would be private. The cost of Kindergarden - 12th grade would be tax deductable. Corporations and individuals could get tax breaks equal to the cost of school scholarships for kids of their choosing. (Microsoft/etc can send kids to college for tax breaks, so can GE or P&G or Uncle Joe) Sponsorship of education gets an equal tax break.

#7 - Massive deregulation,  particularly of competition killing deals. (For example, Cable companies could be in any market offering any package they find a willing buyer for. Same goes for Power companies or Phone companies or any other buisness that currently enjoys government protection from the free market)

#6 - Constitutional amendment guaranteeing the right to private property with an eminent domain clause forcing the government to pay 2X market value for seized property. The government would also have to prove in court that the property gained by ED is for public use and the original owner is first in line to buy the property back if the land is to be sold again as private property at any point in the future.

#5 - Privatize social security, end medicare and medicaid.

#4 - No man or woman who serves in the military full time has to pay income tax for the duration of their service. No military member wounded in the line of duty has to pay income tax for the rest of their lives. Dependents/Spouses of those killed in the line of duty get generous compensation pay untill the children are 18 and free college scholarships to any school they are accepted into.

#3 - End selective service and the possibility of a draft by constitutional amendment.

#2 - End the Federal Reserve and return to the gold standard.

#1 - Send secret service to find the girl I talked to in the coffee shop the other day and ask her out on a date for me.

Hey! That was easy. It's good to be the King. 

Your #3 and #1 are a bit concerning.  There may come a day we need a draft regardless of our good intentions, and what kind of loser has to intimidate a girl to get a date?

I might catch some flak for this, but a nation which can only continue to exist through enslaving its population (and conscription IS slavery, like it or not) doesn't deserve continued existence.

If things truly get that dire, then that nation was and is a failure.  It SHOULD be scrapped and started anew.

Meanwhile, if conscription is expressly forbidden, when the SHTF we as a nation might find that we don't really need conscription.  Surely it may make things easier, but it simply isn't worth it IMO.

[bijou]

bean fidhleir (1000+ posts)      Tue Jul-01-08 02:58 PM
Original message
Your Top 10 priorities if you had dictatorial power in the USA?
 Advertisements [?]Edited on Tue Jul-01-08 03:17 PM by bean fidhleir
What would be the very first things, in priority order, that you would decree be changed? You can have up to 10, but they have to be specific, changes that could be described in legislation or a constitutional amendment. No vague statements like "end poverty".

What are the 10 things in the worst need of fixing?

lame54  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jul-02-08 10:31 AM
Response to Reply #1
87. legalize pot and release the political prisoners

Flabbergasted (1000+ posts)       Tue Jul-01-08 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #3
13. Right that would probably be 10 for me....
 Edited on Tue Jul-01-08 03:18 PM by Flabbergasted
8.) Elect a Parliament
9.) Draw up a Constitution forming a conditional republic. Have the constitution drafted by the people through their representatives and approved by the people.
10.) Resign after a president is elected.

ayeshahaqqiqa  (1000+ posts)       Tue Jul-01-08 03:03 PM
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4. End corporate citizenship
 would be number one for me.
Single payer health insurance would be next.
Diversification of media ownership
Progressive taxation to the level of the Kennedy years (93% on incomes over 200K)
Government work programs fixing infrastructure and using green technology
Creating an energy independence program
Strict separation of church and state
Equal rights for all on all matters
Instituting a Department of Peace to handle our foreign policy
Free college education for all who desire it

Then they get on to tax ...

hippy nirvana 

topics merged by franksolich; sorry, bijou, madam

[Willow]

Progressive taxation to the level of the Kennedy years (93% on incomes over 200K)

farking idiot, who in the hell would work???

[Splashdown]

One of my top 10 would be one of those cool dictator uniforms. And a monicle.

[asdf2231]

One of my top 10 would be one of those cool dictator uniforms. And a monicle.

You HAVE to have a pet of some kind.  Cats work good.  A small mean monkey in a matching uniform would be better.

And Minions. GOTTA have minions!

[bijou]

One of my top 10 would be one of those cool dictator uniforms. And a monicle.

You HAVE to have a pet of some kind.  Cats work good.  A small mean monkey in a matching uniform would be better.

And Minions. GOTTA have minions!

Genius idea asdf.

[Chris_]

Progressive taxation to the level of the Kennedy years (93% on incomes over 200K)

LOL..OK so I make 201K and I take home 15K......Ohh yea that will work and cause the economy to tank within 30 days.

[franksolich]

Progressive taxation to the level of the Kennedy years (93% on incomes over 200K)

LOL..OK so I make 201K and I take home 15K......Ohh yea that will work and cause the economy to tank within 30 days.

The primitives are just so absolutely ****ing retarded.

It's true that during the late 1950s, the early 1960s, the Eisenhower-Kennedy era, that the top income-tax rate was 91%.

BUT NOBODY ****ING PAID 91%.

Nobody, no one, zero, zilch.

If the primitives think old Joe Kennedy was giving 91% of his income to the federal government, the primitives are ****ing stupid.

Now, even if it were proposed to have a top tax rate of 91%, with no loopholes (such as existed 50 years ago), it would go over like a lead balloon.

Rich Republicans like the Bostonian Billionaire, Vast Teddy, Jay Rockefeller, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Warren Beatty, Bags Streisand, the Leona Helmsley of DUmmieland "flyarm," the maternal ancestress of the Bostonian Drunkard "Raven," the grazing primitivg "jgraz," the governor of New Jersey, Dianne Feinstein, Alphonse Capote Gore, &c., &c., &c., wouldn't stand for it.

[DixieBelle]

Well I'm totally getting a white tiger and putting a saddle on it! Maybe I'll let that little monkey in the matching uniform ride on it. But only if he wears the monicle.

[InfamousAndy]

'Summary execution of war criminals and profiteers'?

It sounds like one of their 'top ten' actions is a bloody purge worthy of Hitler and Stalin.  No wonder they support and respect Chavez, Iran, and Castro.

[ReardenSteel]

bean fidhleir  (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-01-08 02:58 PM
Original message

Your Top 10 priorities if you had dictatorial power in the USA?
   
What would be the very first things, in priority order, that you would decree be changed? You can have up to 10, but they have to be specific, changes that could be described in legislation or a constitutional amendment. No vague statements like "end poverty".

What are the 10 things in the worst need of fixing?

#10 - (made number ten so I could play too) Resign as dictator, go back to being a Constitutional Republic with free elections.

#9 - Repeal all Sarbanes-Oxley type laws dealing with antitrust issues. Abolish antitrust laws altogether via constitutional amendment.

#8 - Eliminate the Department of Education. All schools would be private. The cost of Kindergarden - 12th grade would be tax deductable. Corporations and individuals could get tax breaks equal to the cost of school scholarships for kids of their choosing. (Microsoft/etc can send kids to college for tax breaks, so can GE or P&G or Uncle Joe) Sponsorship of education gets an equal tax break.

#7 - Massive deregulation,  particularly of competition killing deals. (For example, Cable companies could be in any market offering any package they find a willing buyer for. Same goes for Power companies or Phone companies or any other buisness that currently enjoys government protection from the free market)

#6 - Constitutional amendment guaranteeing the right to private property with an eminent domain clause forcing the government to pay 2X market value for seized property. The government would also have to prove in court that the property gained by ED is for public use and the original owner is first in line to buy the property back if the land is to be sold again as private property at any point in the future.

#5 - Privatize social security, end medicare and medicaid.

#4 - No man or woman who serves in the military full time has to pay income tax for the duration of their service. No military member wounded in the line of duty has to pay income tax for the rest of their lives. Dependents/Spouses of those killed in the line of duty get generous compensation pay untill the children are 18 and free college scholarships to any school they are accepted into.

#3 - End selective service and the possibility of a draft by constitutional amendment.

#2 - End the Federal Reserve and return to the gold standard.

#1 - Send secret service to find the girl I talked to in the coffee shop the other day and ask her out on a date for me.

Hey! That was easy. It's good to be the King. 

Your #3 and #1 are a bit concerning.  There may come a day we need a draft regardless of our good intentions, and what kind of loser has to intimidate a girl to get a date?

I might catch some flak for this, but a nation which can only continue to exist through enslaving its population (and conscription IS slavery, like it or not) doesn't deserve continued existence.

If things truly get that dire, then that nation was and is a failure.  It SHOULD be scrapped and started anew.

Meanwhile, if conscription is expressly forbidden, when the SHTF we as a nation might find that we don't really need conscription.  Surely it may make things easier, but it simply isn't worth it IMO.

Dunno what flak you might get. I said it, I believe it, and I'm treated just dandy here abouts. In any case... H5 for the support.

 

[Peter3_1]

There were "loopholes" galore in the old tax system. My fovorite was the rail road car loophole. You could buy a
freight car or a part. The purchase price was imediuately deductible. PLUS you could  deduct the cost of rental value on daqys not tented and depreeciate the purchase too. THe idea was you purchased fdreight cars that simply sat for years and years  deducting the appropriate amount gto keep your traxes near zero.  There were better scams, but they reequired accountants.

[TheSarge]

'Summary execution of war criminals and profiteers'?

It sounds like one of their 'top ten' actions is a bloody purge worthy of Hitler and Stalin.  No wonder they support and respect Chavez, Iran, and Castro.

Sounds like they need to clarify who they'd summarily execute.

I can think of at least two of their sainted Democrat Idols that would end up on the list the way it's written.