primitives discuss daylight savings time

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024631984

Oh my.

It's getting more and more difficult to find a primitive discussion on something the primitives know anything about, and on this issue, they know barely anything.

But one grabs what one can grab.

niyad (29,098 posts)    Sat Mar 8, 2014, 07:31 PM

the "extra hour of daylight" benefits convenience stores, gas stations, golf courses, the bbq industry and all outdoor sports, along with increased pollution from the extended use of cars. what do we the people gain? a chance to watch the sunsets with our loved ones. that was what I just heard on a segment of the national news. oh, and in case you were wondering why it now goes into nov--apparently at the behest of the candy industry--seems more kids go out for halloween with the delay in returning to dst.

Scuba (35,950 posts)    Sat Mar 8, 2014, 07:43 PM

1. And it killed the drive-in movie industry.

Wounded Bear (4,697 posts)    Sat Mar 8, 2014, 07:44 PM

2. Meh...

I think that urban and suburban sprawl and light pollution did that. There's pretty much nowhere where it's dark enough to watch a movie on an outdoor screen any more that's reasonable driving distance.

ScreamingMeemie (63,709 posts)    Sat Mar 8, 2014, 07:52 PM

9. We are lucky in that there is a drive in less than a 20 minute drive away from

our suburban north Houston home. North Houston is odd. We have cows grazing less than a half mile away, and yet we are in the middle of modern suburbia.

Curmudgeoness (13,087 posts)    Sat Mar 8, 2014, 07:51 PM

7. Not true. We have had DST all my life,

and drive-in movies were very popular in my younger days. But maybe we just stayed up later than these kids do today.

Warren DeMontague (52,991 posts)    Sat Mar 8, 2014, 07:45 PM
response to the original poster

3. So, is this the new thing to be mad about?

Just trying to stay hep.

Curmudgeoness (13,087 posts)    Sat Mar 8, 2014, 07:48 PM

4. Well, I am one of those people who loves daylight savings time.

I get outside more when it is light later. All winter long, I don't take walks because by the time I get home from work, it is dark. I am ready to go to bed when the sun goes down, so I don't seem to get anything done in winter.
 
I am not opposed to businesses benefitting as well, although I don't really think that it matters...people with money to spend will spend it. And those golfers...they would be up and on the course at 5:00 in the morning if it was light out, instead of later in the evening.

seattledo (275 posts)    Sat Mar 8, 2014, 07:49 PM

5. You could take a walk before work...

if you really cared.

dionysus (24,492 posts)    Sat Mar 8, 2014, 07:52 PM

8. can't play a round of golf before work,or do as much yardwork as you could otherwise...

Curmudgeoness (13,087 posts)    Sat Mar 8, 2014, 07:53 PM

11. Pitch black before work too, in the winter.

And I hate alarms more than anything in the world----including Faux News---so getting up even earlier to go for a walk is just out of the question.

dionysus (24,492 posts)    Sat Mar 8, 2014, 07:54 PM

13. as a shill of Big Golf, i can testify that when the clock changes in the fall it is the death knell

of the golf season. love being able to play until almost 9 in the summer!

ScreamingMeemie (63,709 posts)    Sat Mar 8, 2014, 07:50 PM

6. It was always the last Sunday in October anyway.

The major change is in the spring, go forward date... which was moved from the last Sunday in March to the second Sunday in March. I hardly think it's at the "behest of the candy industry..." Oy.

niyad (29,098 posts)    Sat Mar 8, 2014, 07:53 PM

12. the ending date is now in november. and I am not the one who said that, it was somebody being

interview on the national news about dst.

Obviously, the primitives have never heard about using flashlights and headlights of automobiles to play golf late at night.

<<<doesn't play real golf; just goes along with others who are serious about the game.

<<<has "played" golf with these serious-minded people even under these skies:

Unfortunately, we never play (or in my case "play") golf late at night any more, because two years ago, one of the other guys stumbled over a humungous mean old rattlesnake in the darkness, and for reasons of personal safety--to wit, franksolich's--we don't do it any more, because franksolich wouldn't hear a rattlesnake in the darkness even if it were cuddled right up next to me.

[NHSparky]

Dear DUmmies,

The reason the drive-in theater is no more is because it was highly uneconomical, considering the cost of land in even suburban areas for one, and double for the fact the quality basically sucked compared to more modern theaters.

It's also one of the bigger reasons I almost never go to regular theaters either--for the cost of a Netflix subscription, a DVD, or Redbox rental, I can see something at MY convenience, without some asshole's cell phone, crying baby, or chatterbox idiots, and not pay $30 for a couple of cokes and a bucket of corn, on top of the $12/ticket ($15 if it's one of those IMAX or 3D flicks.)

[thundley4]

Dear DUmmies,

The reason the drive-in theater is no more is because it was highly uneconomical, considering the cost of land in even suburban areas for one, and double for the fact the quality basically sucked compared to more modern theaters.

It's also one of the bigger reasons I almost never go to regular theaters either--for the cost of a Netflix subscription, a DVD, or Redbox rental, I can see something at MY convenience, without some asshole's cell phone, crying baby, or chatterbox idiots, and not pay $30 for a couple of cokes and a bucket of corn, on top of the $12/ticket ($15 if it's one of those IMAX or 3D flicks.)

We buy quite a few DVD's and haven't been to a movie theater in over 15 years.

[NHSparky]

We buy quite a few DVD's and haven't been to a movie theater in over 15 years.

I've seen exactly THREE movies at a theater in the last 10 years--all of which were "kid flicks" we went to as a family.

The last one was the latest Disney flick, in a 3D theater.  $52 for four tickets, $30 for four beverages and a bucket of popcorn. 

Compare that to $8/mo for Netflix, $1/day for Redbox, or "splurging" $15-20 for a DVD if it's a new release, or $5-10 if it isn't.

[I_B_Perky]

I've seen exactly THREE movies at a theater in the last 10 years--all of which were "kid flicks" we went to as a family.

The last one was the latest Disney flick, in a 3D theater.  $52 for four tickets, $30 for four beverages and a bucket of popcorn. 

Compare that to $8/mo for Netflix, $1/day for Redbox, or "splurging" $15-20 for a DVD if it's a new release, or $5-10 if it isn't.

I haven't been to a movie since 95, Sparky. At the time I thought 6 bucks for a ticket was a damned rip off. The damned popcorn was out of site. The theater sound was so loud it made my ears hurt... and it was cold as the north pole in there too.

Screw that.

Now if was in my 20's and was dating... it would probably be a different story.

[Dori]

Didn't drive-ins go out with the VCR?

I've only been to the theater less than a dozen times since I could rent 3 videos for $5 at the neighborhood video store.

Now I rarely watch a DVD movie with all the other choices out there.

[GOBUCKS]

Here in red state hell, we're on a gerrymandered far eastern edge of the stupid central time zone.

Sun comes up in the middle of the night, and sets in the middle of the afternoon.

It's like the reverse of Red China, where the far western provinces are on the same time as Peking.

The best solution, by far, would be year-round 2-hour daylight savings time.

That would go a long way toward making this stupid central time livable.

[HawkHogan]

Everything is a damn conspiracy with Dummies...

[tanstaafl]

I like DST in the northern latitudes, sunset around 2100hrs, dusk at around 2200. When your working 13 on / 1 off at 12 hrs per day, it makes you appreciate the extra 4 hours of July daylight over going to work in the dark and coming home in the dark during Standard Time. It's just a shift of one hour of daylight from the AM to the PM, don't see what the DUmmies problem is, other than it's not so noticeable when you sleep until noon.

[Dori]

I like DST in the northern latitudes, sunset around 2100hrs, dusk at around 2200. When your working 13 on / 1 off at 12 hrs per day, it makes you appreciate the extra 4 hours of July daylight over going to work in the dark and coming home in the dark during Standard Time. It's just a shift of one hour of daylight from the AM to the PM, don't see what the DUmmies problem is, other than it's not so noticeable when you sleep until noon.

I love daylight savings too.  Wished it was all year round.  I hate it when it starts getting dark at 4:30 pm in the fall. 

[tanstaafl]

I love daylight savings too.  Wished it was all year round.  I hate it when it starts getting dark at 4:30 pm in the fall. 

If you don't "fall back" an hour in November, it would be year 'round for you.

[thundley4]

Didn't drive-ins go out with the VCR?

I've only been to the theater less than a dozen times since I could rent 3 videos for $5 at the neighborhood video store.

Now I rarely watch a DVD movie with all the other choices out there.

There are still quite a few around. They don't advertise much though.

[hillneck]

another subject the DUmmies are truly dumb about.

[GOBUCKS]

Didn't drive-ins go out with the VCR?

Based on my high school drive-in memories, the attraction of the place would not have been affected if they had stopped showing movies. 

[movie buff]

The DUmmies are aware that DST was first invented/ conceived by Benjamin Franklin, aren't they? I don't think those evil corporations were around back then.
They truly do have to make literally EVERYTHING involve some kind of evil corporate conspiracy, though I think this is the first time I've seen them use the candy companies in such a conspiracy theory.
DST is a slight nuisance for me, but one I can easily handle.

[JohnnyReb]

Daylight savings time...DUmmie style....."Can I sell my hour?"...."Can I save it up and take a month off?"...."The evil 1% get more daylight."...."Republicans want to take your daylight away."...."Daylight should be shared equally."...."Does an 8 day clock keep 25 hour time?".... "Is that extra hour a business hour?"

[jukin]

Dear DUchebags,

Please kill yourselves.

Sincerely,

Jukin

[Skul]

Daylight savings time...DUmmie style....."Can I sell my hour?"...."Can I save it up and take a month off?"...."The evil 1% get more daylight."...."Republicans want to take your daylight away."...."Daylight should be shared equally."...."Does an 8 day clock keep 25 hour time?".... "Is that extra hour a business hour?"

It's a war on night!!1!    /DUmmie mode

[dane]

A simple nadin of 'daylight savings time' would yield a multitude of articles to read on the subject, many of which explain to the DUmmies (those individuals who proclaim themselves smarter than the rest of us) when it started, where it is observed, etc.

Their wild ideas and conjecture would be dispelled.

[MrsSmith]

<-----------------HATES DST.  It doesn't matter whether I "gain" an hour, or "lose" one.  It changes my wake-up time twice a year for nothing. 

[obumazombie]

DST for aviators means an adjustment to GMT.

[njpines]

Love the double feature drive-in in Beaufort, SC!!

[Skul]

DST for aviators means an adjustment to GMT.

For the non-aviator/astronomer/boater.
GMT doesn't change.  Just the adjustment for your location.

[obumazombie]

For the non-aviator/astronomer/boater.
GMT doesn't change.  Just the adjustment for your location.

I like it the way you say it.

[GOBUCKS]

----------------------^HATES DST.  It doesn't matter whether I "gain" an hour, or "lose" one.  It changes my wake-up time twice a year for nothing. 

<----------------------LOVES DST. Year round DST would avoid the trauma of changing clocks. Best by far would be year round 2-hour DST.

Here in red state hell, without DST the drive-ins, if they still exist, could have matinees.