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One & Only Bruno   Nov 20 2002, 7:04 am     show options

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SHAME ON YOU AMERICAN-HATING LIBERALS


Tony Parsons


ONE year ago, the world witnessed a unique kind of broadcasting - the
mass murder of thousands, live on television.


As a lesson in the pitiless cruelty of the human race, September 11 was
up there with Pol Pot's mountain of skulls in Cambodia, or the skeletal
bodies stacked like garbage in the Nazi concentration camps.


An unspeakable act so cruel, so calculated and so utterly merciless that
surely the world could agree on one thing - nobody deserves this fate.


Surely there could be consensus: the victims were truly innocent, the
perpetrators truly evil.


But to the world's eternal shame, 9/11 is increasingly seen as America's
comeuppance.


Incredibly, anti-Americanism has increased over the last year.


There has always been a simmering resentment to the USA in this country -
too loud, too rich, too full of themselves and so much happier than
Europeans - but it has become an epidemic.


And it seems incredible to me. More than that, it turns my stomach.


America is this country's greatest friend and our staunchest ally. We are
bonded to the US by culture, language and blood.


A little over half a century ago, around half a million Americans died
for our freedoms, as well as their own. Have we forgotten so soon?


And exactly a year ago, thousands of ordinary men, women and children -
not just Americans, but from dozens of countries - were butchered by a
small group of religious fanatics. Are we so quick to betray them?


What touched the heart about those who died in the twin towers and on the
planes was that we recognised them. Young fathers and mothers, somebody's
son and somebody's daughter, husbands and wives. And children. Some
unborn.


And these people brought it on themselves? And their nation is to blame
for their meticulously planned slaughter?


These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted nut job in Kabul or
Karachi or Finsbury Park to see America as the Great Satan.


The anti-American alliance is made up of self-loathing liberals who blame
the Americans for every ill in the Third World, and conservatives
suffering from power-envy, bitter that the world's only superpower can do
what it likes without having to ask permission.


The truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since
September 11.


Remember, remember.


Remember the gut-wrenching tapes of weeping men phoning their wives to
say, "I love you," before they were burned alive. Remember those people
leaping to their deaths from the top of burning skyscrapers.


Remember the hundreds of firemen buried alive. Remember the smiling face
of that beautiful little girl who was on one of the planes with her mum.
Remember, remember - and realise that America has never retaliated for
9/11 in anything like the way it could have.


So a few al-Qaeda tourists got locked without a trial in Camp X-ray? Pass
the Kleenex.


So some Afghan wedding receptions were shot up after they merrily fired
their semi-automatics in a sky full of American planes? A shame, but
maybe next time they should stick to confetti.


AMERICA could have turned a large chunk of the world into a parking lot.
That it didn't is a sign of strength.


American voices are already being raised against attacking Iraq - that's
what a democracy is for. How many in the Islamic world will have a
minute's silence for the slaughtered innocents of 9/11? How many Islamic
leaders will have the guts to say that the mass murder of 9/11 was an
abomination?


When the news of 9/11 broke on the West Bank, those freedom-loving
Palestinians were dancing in the street. America watched all of that -
and didn't push the button. We should thank the stars that America is the
most powerful nation in the world. I still find it incredible that 9/11
did not provoke all-out war. Not a "war on terrorism". A real war.


The fundamentalist dudes are talking about "opening the gates of hell",
if America attacks Iraq. Well, America could have opened the gates of
hell like you wouldn't believe.


The US is the most militarily powerful nation that ever strode the face
of the earth.


The campaign in Afghanistan may have been less than perfect and the
planned war on Iraq may be misconceived.


But don't blame America for not bringing peace and light to these
wretched countries. How many democracies are there in the Middle East, or
in the Muslim world? You can count them on the fingers of one hand -
assuming you haven't had any chopped off for minor shoplifting.


I love America, yet America is hated. I guess that makes me Bush's
poodle. But I would rather be a dog in New York City than a Prince in
Riyadh. Above all, America is hated because it is what every country
wants to be - rich, free, strong, open, optimistic.


Not ground down by the past, or religion, or some caste system. America
is the best friend this country ever had and we should start remembering
that.


Or do you really think the USA is the root of all evil? Tell it to the
loved ones of the men and women who leaped to their death from the
burning towers.


Tell it to the nursing mothers whose husbands died on one of the hijacked
planes, or were ripped apart in a collapsing skyscraper.


And tell it to the hundreds of young widows whose husbands worked for the
New York Fire Department. To our shame, George Bush gets a worse press
than Saddam Hussein.


Once we were told that Saddam gassed the Kurds, tortured his own people
and set up rape-camps in Kuwait. Now we are told he likes Quality Street.
Save me the orange centre, oh mighty one!


Remember, remember, September 11. One of the greatest atrocities in human
history was committed against America.


No, do more than remember. Never forget.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/column*ists/tonyparsons/tonyparsons/p*age.cfm?o...

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No incredible at all when you consider the beligerant stand we have taken.
If my neighbor behaved like the U.S. we would be in small claims court twice
a week (unfortunately if my neighbor was like the U.S. he would not show up
because he would think he was above the law).

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Of course you would feel that way. This article describes you very
people. You're nothing but an angry liberal who blames every world ill on
the US when it is the US that tries to rectify the shit socialists,
marxists, communists, and liberals cause. You hate this country yet you
don't have the integrity to move out. You're nothing but a duplicitous,
hypocritical left-wing scumbag.

Now, go back to your room, read the rest of Das Kapital, and then sing
L'Internationale.

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Congratulations, you mimic the very words of Hitler in the '30s.  Now you go back to your room, put on your SS uniform and patrol your neighborhood
looking for liberals, socialists, marxists and communists.   Next week it
will be Catholics, Jews, Mexicans, Arabs and "non-believers."

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Liberals HATE America . . *   Nov 20 2002, 7:58 am     show options

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"Grinder" <tho...@earthlink.net> wrote in message


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> Congratulations, you mimic the very words of Hitler in the '30s.  Now you
go
> back to your room, put on your SS uniform and patrol your neighborhood


Translation: You are not a liberal.

You see this Bruno? Right on que this radical left-wing America-hating loon
drags out all the tried and true labels, all the standard names you call
anyone who dares to disagree with a liberal wingnut. Yawn.


Anyone who disagrees with a liberal is a Nazi.
Anyone who disagrees with a liberal is a Racist.
Anyone who disagrees with a liberal is a Bigot.
Anyone who disagrees with a liberal is a Sexist.
Anyone who disagrees with a liberal is a homophobe.


Blah blah blah


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> Congratulations, you mimic the very words of Hitler in the '30s.


Same old tired left-wing rant. Anone who defends the great USA is a nazi,
fascist, goose-stomping killer. Right. It's typical.

But, you can't refute anything in the article. And that's what's REALLY
got you bugged. LOL!



>  Now you go
> back to your room, put on your SS uniform and patrol your neighborhood
> looking for liberals, socialists, marxists and communists.


Same old tired left-wing rant. Anone who defends the great USA is a nazi,
fascist, goose-stomping killer. Right. It's typical.

But, you can't refute anything in the article. And that's what's REALLY
got you bugged. LOL!



>   Next week it
> will be Catholics, Jews, Mexicans, Arabs and "non-believers."


LOL! It's you liberals who've been attacking Catholics and Jews for
decades. So who the **** are you trying to fool?!
LOL!

As far as 'non-believers', you liberals harbor the same kind of
destruction for those who don't subscribe to your
liberalism/socialism/marxism as your brethren, the Islamists, do for
those who don't subscribe to their evil brand of cultism. Liberalism is
as much of a cult as militant Islam.


You're a ****ing joke.


It is a long thread there. Conservatives vs. Lefties.

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Re: From Alt.Fan.Bill-Clinton: SHAME ON YOU AMERICAN-HATING LIBERALS
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2008, 04:41:04 PM »
that should be printed in every newspaper in the country

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Re: From Alt.Fan.Bill-Clinton: SHAME ON YOU AMERICAN-HATING LIBERALS
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2008, 09:18:40 PM »
that should be printed in every newspaper in the country

I agree. Tony Parsons is actually quite far left, same with the newspaper. Yet he scolds the left for blaming America for 9/11.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
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Allow enemies their space to hate; they will destroy themselves in the process.
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Re: From Alt.Fan.Bill-Clinton: SHAME ON YOU AMERICAN-HATING LIBERALS
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2008, 09:20:39 PM »
that should be printed in every newspaper in the country

Agreed!
Let nothing trouble you,
Let nothing frighten you. 
All things are passing;
God never changes.
Patience attains all that it strives for.
He who has God lacks nothing:
God alone suffices.
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