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Obama's foreign policy successes...
« on: February 23, 2014, 08:44:14 AM »
Does Obama Have Any Foreign Policy Successes?

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President Obama hired a Secretary of State who had no relevant experience for the job because he wanted to avoid criticism from her – or even a 2012 challenge – and because he read in a book that Lincoln surrounded himself with rivals.

Then he hired someone who was qualified but who thinks global warming is a bigger threat than terrorists with airplanes or Mullahs with nuclear weapons.

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Kiev is ablaze. Syria is a killing field. The Iranian mullahs aren’t giving up their nuclear weapons capability, and other regimes in the Middle East are preparing to acquire their own. Al Qaeda is making gains and is probably stronger than ever. China and Russia throw their weight around, while our allies shudder and squabble.

Why is this happening? Because the United States is in retreat. What is the Obama administration’s response to these events? Further retreat.

Having withdrawn from Iraq, and seeing it now fall apart, the administration is nonetheless determined to get out of Afghanistan. Its Russia “reset” is a joke, and its “pivot to Asia” an empty slogan. Secretary of State John Kerry huffed and puffed when Bashar al-Assad used chemical weapons last year, and asserted it was a Munich moment. How right he was! Kerry came back brandishing a piece of paper, and Assad remains in power.

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We’re dealing with no recent memory of the Great War, no Great Depression, no Hitler or Tojo or even a Mussolini. We don’t need extraordinary heroism or exemplary statesmanship to deal with the second and third-rate threats that we face. We require competent men taking serious measures.

But we don’t have them. And of course second and third-rate threats, if unchecked, can cause much death and destruction. Minor league gangs and small-time thugs can destroy a neighborhood if there’s no police force. A small infection, if untreated and allowed to spread, can kill as surely as a cancer. Rome fell not to the majestic Hannibal but to groups of unimpressive barbarians. Chaos that results from weakness and dissolution can be as hard to remedy as defeat by formidable and well-organized foes.

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Re: Obama's foreign policy successes...
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2014, 09:14:58 AM »
Does Obama Have Any Foreign Policy Successes?

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Hey, if your aim is to destroy the U.S., then they are all great suckcesses.
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Re: Obama's foreign policy successes...
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2014, 04:55:28 PM »
Why wouldn't we pull out of Iraq? Obama simply followed through with the agreed upon withdrawal put in place by Bush. Iraq wouldn't allow us to leave troops in place unless they were subject to local Iraqi law.
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Re: Obama's foreign policy successes...
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2014, 05:37:15 PM »
You're saying that Iraq was an Obama foreign policy success?
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2014, 05:44:21 PM »
You're saying that Iraq was an Obama foreign policy success?

I never said that. I said he made the right choice of honoring the withdrawal date that was already set before he took office.

Are you saying Obama should have allowed US troops be tried under Iraqi law and jailed in Iraqi prisons for crimes committed there?
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Re: Obama's foreign policy successes...
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2014, 05:55:01 PM »
We have foreign nationals in our prisons and jails for crimes committed here. When you are in a foreign country, you are subject to their laws. No ifs, ands or buts.
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Re: Obama's foreign policy successes...
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2014, 05:57:29 PM »
I never said that. I said he made the right choice of honoring the withdrawal date that was already set before he took office.

Are you saying Obama should have allowed US troops be tried under Iraqi law and jailed in Iraqi prisons for crimes committed there?

Tell us, DUmmy, what is your opinion of the other foreign policy failures which have resulted from King Hussein's failure to lead?

Dismal failures:
Afghanistan
Pakistan
Egypt
Libya
Iran
North Korea
Turkey
Syria
Israel
Palies

Plain old failures:
Mexico
Venezuela
Cuba
Canada
Great Britain
Russia
Jordan and Saudi Arabia
China
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Re: Obama's foreign policy successes...
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2014, 06:09:49 PM »
We have foreign nationals in our prisons and jails for crimes committed here. When you are in a foreign country, you are subject to their laws. No ifs, ands or buts.

Well Bush and Obama both felt differently.  This wasn't acceptable to the government of Iraq, so they asked us to leave.
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2014, 06:30:35 PM »
We should have never pulled out of Iraq.  We could have negotiated on the points of pull out.  Obama only used that as an excuse. He ran his campaign on ending the wars and that's all he cared about, to hell with the fall out, the lives of 50 million Iraqis and what we spent in treasure and blood.
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The violence has spurred Baghdad to seek new U.S. aid to curb the threat, said Iraqi Foreign Minister Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari. He said a U.S. assistance package could include a limited number of advisers, intelligence analysis and surveillance assets - including lethal drones.

"There is greater realization in the Iraq government that we should not shy away from coming and asking for some help and assistance," Zebari told reporters Friday in Washington.

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Re: Obama's foreign policy successes...
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2014, 12:44:07 PM »
We should have never pulled out of Iraq.  We could have negotiated on the points of pull out.  Obama only used that as an excuse. He ran his campaign on ending the wars and that's all he cared about, to hell with the fall out, the lives of 50 million Iraqis and what we spent in treasure and blood.
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Who's gonna pay for it?
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2014, 01:00:58 PM »
Who's gonna pay for it?

Pay for what?  The security forces and hardware were already there and paid for.

Now we have al-Qaeda setting up shop, one of the reasons we went there in the first place.

I wasn't on board with going into Iraq, but once we did, took out Saddam and his diabolic heirs and destroyed their military, we should have stuck it out.  I get really pissed about the short sightedness of our foreign policy. 

I don't think there is much we can do for Afghanistan, but we had a really good chance in Iraq.  It was worth toughing out.  In part because we broke it, but also because of it's strategic location.  Iran is on one side and Syria on the other, not to mention all the other Arab countries near by that are being threatened by Iran.

Obama's policies are a disaster and we will pay.  Don't think for a minute we won't be back in the fray, only next time it will be worse.



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Re: Obama's foreign policy successes...
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2014, 01:02:43 PM »
French Military Victories!

Crap.

I thought this was one of those "World's Shortest Book" threads!

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Re: Obama's foreign policy successes...
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2014, 01:47:45 PM »
Why wouldn't we pull out of Iraq? Obama simply followed through with the agreed upon withdrawal put in place by Bush.

No not really.  This administration sent an unqualified representative to Baghdad to negotiate a post war SOFA agreement and the negotiations went so badly because of our incompetence that Iraq was left with the situation they're in now.

That was not was Bush put in place.  Read up a little on what went down before you hit "post" again



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Iraq wouldn't allow us to leave troops in place unless they were subject to local Iraqi law.

You don't understand how a SOFA agreement works do you?  No matter where our soldiers are stationed or garrisoned outside of the U.S. depending on the offense they are subject to the laws and courts of that country.

Not too bright on foreign or military affairs are you?
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2014, 01:49:48 PM »
Who's gonna pay for it?

The same people that are going to have to pay a considerably bigger and more costlier bill when we have to un**** what this Administrations policies have done to our  accomplishments in Iraq.
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2014, 01:55:44 PM »
Well Bush and Obama both felt differently.  This wasn't acceptable to the government of Iraq, so they asked us to leave.

Again you're completely and utterly wrong.  The Iraqi government was begging us to stay and Obama refused.
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« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2014, 02:13:53 PM »
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