DUmmy idabriggs fasts during Ramadan but isn't a Muslim. I don't believe it.

[dane]

Here's the OP, describing experiences during periods of inclement weather when the author's hijab is covered.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024519437

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 04:57 AM

 JI7 (44,434 posts)

Muslim Woman Discovers Friendly New World When a Winter Scarf Covers Her Hijab

 thought this was interesting. also keep in mind this is chicago which would be one one of the more diverse and liberal places in the country.
 
<A south suburban Chicago woman who hid her hijab beneath a fluffy knit hat and scarf found an entirely different world around her when others couldn't see the traditional Muslim garb.
 
"I didn't understand what was happening at first. People started talking to me more. Women would speak to me like I knew them since forever. Men looked at me like I was actually approachable," Leena Suleiman wrote of her experience on her blog, Facetruth. "And I was made to feel like I was actually from this planet."
 
"I became even more confident walking in my city. My city. All the stares were not racially related anymore. I was addressed as 'lady' and 'little lady,' something I had never heard before. Men would hold doors for me. Women would crack jokes with me. I became respectable, lovable, and accepted."
 
But with the hijab hidden, Suleiman also learned the familiar place she inhabited comfortably for so many years, the world of American Muslims, no longer was warm and friendly.
 
"The Muslim taxi drivers who would almost always say "Assalamu Alaikum," ask me where I'm from or if I'm single, or not allow me to pay for the fare became cold and dry. I would simply give the address, and the only dialog thereafter was at time of payment. It was puzzling," she wrote.

Now, along comes Ida with an explanation as to why this happens, along with a mini bouncy (lie)

IdaBriggs (7,660 posts)

1. This is an interesting story.

Covering (aka wearing hijab) is a public announcement of one's faith, and in my experience, Muslim men are extremely respectful to women who cover even more than women who do not - I think it may have to do with acknowledging their courage in being "outside the norm" in deference to their faith. Finding the commonality between ourselves builds relationships; when I share that I fast during Ramadan despite not being Muslim there is an instant moment of rapport built around that shared experience. Physical appearances are not who we are, although obviously the world uses them as cues for appropriate behavior. It is too early for the metaphysical turn my mind is taking! Lol!

Does the respect Ida mentions carry over to the time when they are stoning women for some 'reason of the day'?

AND, does Ida participate in the customs, observances, rituals of all the other religions of which she is not a member, or just this one?  If just this one, why not the others as well.

[txradioguy]

Muslim men are extremely respectful to women who cover even more than women who do not -

No Idiot Briggs that is false.  Muslim men look at women...covered or not as property.  

They just look at the uncovered woman as property that acts like a whore.

when I share that I fast during Ramadan despite not being Muslim there is an instant moment of rapport built around that shared experience

If you really believe that...then calling you an idiot is more than justified.  They don't respect you...they despise you for daring to try as a non believer to shre in their expereince.  And since Muslims are allowed to lie to non believers...they'll tell you to your face they appreciate what you're doing.

However in reality...

[vesta111]

No Idiot Briggs that is false.  Muslim men look at women...covered or not as property.  

They just look at the uncovered woman as property that acts like a whore.

If you really believe that...then calling you an idiot is more than justified.  They don't respect you...they despise you for daring to try as a non believer to shre in their expereince.  And since Muslims are allowed to lie to non believers...they'll tell you to your face they appreciate what you're doing.

However in reality...

^5 to you sir, one must be really old to get a Muslim to speak to a woman with any kind of respect.   

Strange life style to us Westerners, we who could not have conquered America with out the help of woman reloading the guns for the men to fight off the Indians.   Working side by side with the men as they plowed the fields and somewhere found time to teach the kids to read and write, spent hours putting up food for the winter and hand sewing all garments for the family.

I believe it was the respect men had for their woman folk and the acknowledgement of their worth that led to Americas being.   

Had the Muslims came first with their ideas, by the time Europeans came here, the men would have been killed and their woman all run off to live with the Indians.

[txradioguy]

^5 to you sir, one must be really old to get a Muslim to speak to a woman with any kind of respect.   

Strange life style to us Westerners, we who could not have conquered America with out the help of woman reloading the guns for the men to fight off the Indians.   Working side by side with the men as they plowed the fields and somewhere found time to teach the kids to read and write, spent hours putting up food for the winter and hand sewing all garments for the family.

I believe it was the respect men had for their woman folk and the acknowledgement of their worth that led to Americas being.   

Had the Muslims came first with their ideas, by the time Europeans came here, the men would have been killed and their woman all run off to live with the Indians.

The mistake westeners like Idiot Briggs and othes make is thinking that if we try to understand them and share in their culture...they'll like us.

Often times this ends up being a fatal mistake.

[Dori]

The mistake westeners like Idiot Briggs and othes make is thinking that if we try to understand them and share in their culture...they'll like us.

Often times this ends up being a fatal mistake.

Just like following their socialist/Marxist ideas that eventually turn into dictatorships.




 

[SarasotaRepub]

when I share that I fast during Ramadan despite not being Muslim there is an instant moment of rapport

Pure BS ida, god "these people" are naive.

[Carl]

This muzzie woman is a sinner.

182 – Rule: Women are permitted to speak to non-Mahram men if the following conditions are met:

The speaking is not done with the intention of lust and seeking (sexual) pleasure.

The woman does not make her voice soft and attractive.

There is no fear of falling into corruption. GKLMS

183 – Rule: It is Makruh for women to speak to men if it is not necessary. GKLM

184 – Rule: It is not allowed for a woman to speak to a non-Mahram man with the intention of making him fall into sin; whether she specifies that the reason she is talking to him is to make him fall into sin, or she talks about something that would make the non-Mahram man fall into a sin - such as explaining stimulating and sensual scenes, or explaining about things that would make the non-Mahram man become aroused upon hearing them. ABGKLMS

Note: Just as was mentioned concerning men, sometimes it is possible that women also become under the influence and tricks of the devil. Thus, sometimes a woman will be so friendly to a non-Mahram man as if it is her brother. Especially those women who are in more contact with non-Mahram men more than others, such as nurses, or those women who works in various businesses and companies, in sports and fitness clubs, etc… must be extra cautious (when dealing with non-Mahram men).

Asking help from non-Mahram men for things that are not necessary; asking non-Mahram men questions while it is possible to ask a Mahram the same question; having discussions with men and putting one’s self between a discussion; exposing one’s talents or virtues to a non-Mahram and socializing with non-Mahram men more; having more of an affection to work in an environment in which there are non-Mahram men – in summary, all examples such as these in which there is a probability of falling into sin, and interactions in such places which are commonly done with the intention of deriving (sexual) pleasure, can lead to being be haram, according to the Laws of Islam.

185 – Rule: When a woman is speaking to a man, she must not make her voice pleasing and soft, such that if the person with whom she is talking to has a sickness in his heart, he will become attracted to her, even if she is talking to him about a general matter. AGKLMS
http://www.al-islam.org/code-ethics-muslim-men-and-women-sayyid-masud-masumi/rules-related-socializing#b-women-talking-non-mahram-men

 

[Celtic Rose]

Why would any non-religious person take part in a religious fast?  Just one more way the Dummies try to feel "special".

[txradioguy]

Why would any non-religious person take part in a religious fast?  Just one more way the Dummies try to feel "special".

Dummies take the saying "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" very seriously.

[Carl]

Why would any non-religious person take part in a religious fast?  Just one more way the Dummies try to feel "special".

As a corollary they do every last thing they can to remove any religious aspect of Christmas.

[JohnnyReb]

Muslim women blow up too.

....and Idabriggs traded a whole months worth of foodstamps for drugs.

[BlueStateSaint]

This caught my eye:

such that if the person with whom she is talking to has a sickness in his heart

If he's an Islamist, he's already got that covered.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Muslim men are extremely respectful to women who cover even more than women who do not -

Not really, they'll still treat it as all the woman's own fault when she gets raped by one of them.

[thundley4]

"I didn't understand what was happening at first. People started talking to me more. Women would speak to me like I knew them since forever. Men looked at me like I was actually approachable," Leena Suleiman wrote of her experience on her blog, Facetruth. "And I was made to feel like I was actually from this planet."

If you're good looking guys would treat you as approachable, men are like that.

"The Muslim taxi drivers who would almost always say "Assalamu Alaikum," ask me where I'm from or if I'm single, or not allow me to pay for the fare became cold and dry. I would simply give the address, and the only dialog thereafter was at time of payment. It was puzzling," she wrote.

Bullshit. Muslim men would rape and then stone the woman to death for being out alone without a male family member.

[Ptarmigan]

Dummies take the saying "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" very seriously.

Very true. They have that mentality.

No Idiot Briggs that is false.  Muslim men look at women...covered or not as property. 

They just look at the uncovered woman as property that acts like a whore.

If you really believe that...then calling you an idiot is more than justified.  They don't respect you...they despise you for daring to try as a non believer to shre in their expereince.  And since Muslims are allowed to lie to non believers...they'll tell you to your face they appreciate what you're doing.

However in reality...

They are also very ethnocentric and racist.

[Ptarmigan]

Why would any non-religious person take part in a religious fast?  Just one more way the Dummies try to feel "special".

In a way, they are religious. Their political ideology is a religion.

[98ZJUSMC]

Why would any non-religious person take part in a religious fast?  Just one more way the Dummies try to feel "special".

In some respects, I believe they find it insulting.

[98ZJUSMC]

In a way, they are religious. Their political ideology is a religion.

[GOP Congress]

Of course, if the taxi driver were wearing a cross, the DUmpmonkey would call the city and complain about separation of church and state or whatnot.