wouldn't vote for Hillary because Obama was 'allegedly' way more liberal

[dutch508]

It's hard to argue with logic like boston bean's. Mostly because it makes no sense.

boston bean (19,192 posts) http://election.democraticunderground.com/10024486678

You wouldn't vote for Hillary because Obama was allegedly way more liberal.
Now, I'm reading you don't want to vote for her because she is too much like Obama. She will be his third term.

There is a bad track record of picking a liberal. I'm going to take these types of opinions with a grain of salt.

There is a horrible track record in picking a liberal. They suck.

Demo_Chris (5,382 posts)
2. It's not complicated. We want a liberal. Obama and Hillary are Republicans. nt

pampango (15,935 posts)
14. "there is basically nothing Obama has done or proposed that would bar him from the GOP mainstream."

Do you mean the modern republican mainstream? I have seen a host of polls that show majority (mainstream?) republican opposition to many Obama policies.

I gave up telling people what their opinion "should be" long ago. (Even though I am much smarter and more honest than they are.  ) Opinions are like - well you know - everybody has one. My perception of what others "should" think really does not have more weight than what they profess their opinions to be.

All our lives would be simpler if a president we do not trust were supported by voters we do not trust. (Also, they would be simpler if he were not supported by voters whom we do trust.) That does not mean that you or I are wrong, just that it is complicated. Sometimes reality is not simple.

SidDithers (31,168 posts)
30. FFS...

There aren't enough facepalm a on the internet to express how ridiculous that opinion is.

Sid

cali (91,269 posts)
4. that's right. it's a bad record. but it's hardly the fault of the slice of the electorate that you

are less than honestly blaming and your conclusions are beyond absurd from a logical pov.

Yes, Obama professed to be more liberal than Hillary. Repeatedly. He chastised her for NAFTA- then got into office and not only didn't reform NAFTA, but backed even worse "trade deals" in the form of the TPP and TTIP.

He said he'd be the environmental President. He's loosened regulations for big gas and oil and enthusiastically backs the grotesque expansion of fracking.

so yeah, he turned out to be as corporate friendly as Hillary. They are both moderate conservatives and corporatists when it comes to basic economic issues, and moderate liberals on many social issues.

Better than insane republicans, and that's about it.

As for your post. forgive me if I blow it off as dandelion fluff. It's what it merits

Laelth (18,630 posts)
12. I am not sure to whom this post is addressed.

Speaking for myself, I hoped Obama would be more liberal than Hillary. My thoughts on that can be found here:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Laelth/15

In the end, and for a number of reasons, only some of which were beyond his control, President Obama ended up being much less liberal than I had hoped. My opinion of Hillary has not improved regarding her positions on economic issues, but I am now confident that she is a capable leader as she demonstrated in her successful stint as Secretary of State. I'd still prefer a liberal.

anasv (180 posts)
22. 'successful stint as Secretary of State"?

Have you looked at Egypt lately? How about Libya? Working hard is not the same as being competent.

B Calm (20,647 posts)
23. If Hillary wasn't so anti marijuana, I could be persuaded.

[98ZJUSMC]

pampango (15,935 posts)
14. "there is basically nothing Obama has done or proposed that would bar him from the GOP mainstream."

    

[JohnnyReb]

So, what the DUmmies are saying is, "We wanted full blown communism with a large side order of kill republicans."

[DumbAss Tanker]

pampango (15,935 posts)
14. "there is basically nothing Obama has done or proposed that would bar him from the GOP mainstream."

If you regard John McCain as the standard-bearer of mainstream Republicans, I suppose there is some factual support for that position.

[DefiantSix]

If you regard John McCain as the standard-bearer of mainstream Republicans, I suppose there is some factual support for that position.

Yup.

[GOBUCKS]

Demo_Chris (5,382 posts)
2. It's not complicated. We want a liberal. Obama and Hillary are Republicans.

Translation: We want the other side to win.

Both parties have an ultra-pure self-immolation wing, unaware they're being spurred on by their enemies.

[AllosaursRus]

(Even though I am much smarter and more honest than they are.  )

Cough, cough, cough!!!!! I damn near blew a gasket when I read that tripe!

If shit were brains DUmbass, y'all could open up yer own septic tank pumpin' company!

[obumazombie]

^He could be a mole.