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Offline Lord Undies

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Jackpine Radical  (1000+ posts)         Sun Jun-29-08 12:58 PM
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Sorry folks. We really do have to move to the center in order to win.

Edited on Sun Jun-29-08 01:03 PM by Jackpine Radical

What people fail to understand, though, is that the corporate media and the professional pols of both parties have all collaborated to make us think that the center far to the right of where it actually is.


Pretending the "corporate media" isn't your friends when 95% of those who populate the "corporate media" confess to being liberals/democrats/Obama slobberers just makes you look stupid and adds another lace hanky to your anti-reality hopechest. 

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The the center is where the Average American is, and that is far to the LEFT of where the talking heads imagine it to be.

No, wrong again.  Your attempting to present the opposite of reality as the truth.  The media has and will always carry on as if liberalism is the norm. 

Remember:  "How did (Republican winner's name) win?  I don't know anyone who voted for him."

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Average Americans want universal health care.

Nope.  Wrong again.  Socializing the medical industry as you DUmmies see it is not a popular idea with anyone outside of those already completely dependent on the government.

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They want their rights restored, and they do not want to live in a police state.

You ALMOST got this one right by accident.  An example would be the 2nd amendment, which liberals want to repeal (that's "destroy" for you DUmbasses).  It was saved from the trash heap just this week (for the foreseeable future) by conservatives on the US Supreme Court.  Normal people know this.  Liberals are still gnashing their drug-rotted teeth over it.

BTW, no other "rights" have been taken away either.  Now, there is talk by many liberals of reinstating the "Fairness Doctrine", which is an assault on the right to free speech.  Conservatives will stop this too.

Looking back over the last two paragraphs, you wanna tell me again who is a threat to normal people's rights and who isn't?

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They want to be loved and respected by other peoples as they once were.

You'll have to go back to the 1950's to find that.  I didn't think you people were advocates of "white bread America".

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They want an end to the insane Iraq war.

Nope, wrong again.  There is no "Iraq war".   What people want is for America to win the war we are fighting against terrorists.  You left-garbage don't want the USA to win anything - ever.

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They want the planet to be protected so their great-great-grandchildren can have clean water, clean air, and natural beauty.

Nope.  They want OIL...by a huge margin.  Nobody buys into the "global warming" scam, and that nobody grows bigger and bigger everyday.

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They want to have jobs

They have jobs.  We have had historically low unemployment rates for years and years.  It has been a blessing you people have tried to mask as evil ever since the first unemployment numbers came out after President George W. Bush was sworn in.

People aren't as stupid as you need them to be.  If Clinton's number were utopia, and Bush's number are even better, how is it bad now but not then?  I'm looking for a simple answer.  I've been looking for years now.  No one can tell me.

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and to be protected from the rapacious behavior of the corporations.

Nope.  Most people have great respect for our captains of industry.  Capitalism is not their enemy and they know it.  It is becoming quite plain to the average concerned citizen that liberalism is poisoning America.  Choke on it.

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They want to go to bed at night knowing that nobody has been tortured or kidnapped in their name.

Nope.  That's just you leftist idiots.  Normal people don't give a fat rat's ass about the feelings of those poor maligned terrorist who want them dead.

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Average Americans are hoping against hope that the Democrats will deliver on these things.

BZZZZZZZZ.  Wrong again.  Most people don't see the world like you DUmbasses do.  They don't live, dream, eat, and breath government.  Most people are laughing at Borax Obama.  Don't believe the phony ass polls your friends in the "corporate media" shove down our throats.  If you do, you are in for a big letdown.

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If the Democrats don't deliver, they're ultimately going to prove that Ralph Nader was right about that dime's worth of difference.

Democrats have never delivered anything but heartache, socialism, fascism, and misery.  It isn't going to change.  Just look at this democrat controlled congress.  They have a worse reputation than used car lots. 

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Re: Sorry folks. We really do have to move to the center in order to win
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2008, 01:47:54 PM »
Quite so, the attitude reflects a complete and profound misunderstanding of both the islamofascist enemy AND the nature of cohersive government. 

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/

You need to start here at "Prophet of Doom" at the top. It will take you thru the hateful parts of the Qur'an. You must remember, when reading, this site is strongly anti-Muslim, and the Qur'an interpretations are the least peaceful possible. The sweetness and light as possible are found under Mohemmed Marmaduke Pickthall's interpretation. But he was a Brit. convert and wanted a best possible light understanding of the Qur'an.

The reading is slow, and somewhat repetitive, but so's the Qur'an!  Especially if you recheck the quotes at other sources, I did, and found most completely accurate, the others had a correct interpretation, but the most violent version possible. The islamofascists, of course, go for the violent side.

And there is this

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DBG.CHAP2.HTM

Thisx is a very powerful work from a man that started the work is a liberal Prof. at the University of Hawaii, as liberal institution as there is. As you read him, it is obvious he's now a libertarian. For damned good reason. Thgis too will take at least a week , probably more, to read, digest, review and digest again. But if you want to be able to see thru the Obama's and Hillbills of this world, you must read it and understand it.

This is scholarship, not propaganda, and we all need to "get it".
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Offline Zeus

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Re: Sorry folks. We really do have to move to the center in order to win
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2008, 02:02:49 PM »
THE OLD PATHS

I liked the old paths, when
Moms were at home.
Dads were at work.
Brothers went into the army.
And sisters got married BEFORE having children!

Crime did not pay;
Hard work did;
And people knew the difference.

Moms could cook;
Dads would work;
Children would behave.

Husbands were loving;
Wives were supportive;
And children were polite.

Women wore the jewelry;
And Men wore the pants.
Women looked like ladies;
Men looked like gentlemen;
And children looked decent.

People loved the truth,
And hated a lie;
They came to church to get IN,
Not to get OUT!

Hymns sounded Godly;
Sermons sounded helpful;
Rejoicing sounded normal;
And crying sounded sincere.

Cursing was wicked;
Drugs were for illness;
And divorce was unthinkable.

The flag was honored;
America was beautiful;
And God was welcome!

We read the Bible in public;
Prayed in school;
And preached from house to house
To be called an American was worth dying for;
To be called a Christian was worth living for;
To be called a traitor was a shame!


Preachers preached because they had a message;
And Christians rejoiced because they had the VICTORY!
Preachers preached from the Bible;
Singers sang from the heart;
And sinners turned to the Lord to be SAVED!

A new birth meant a new life;
Salvation meant a changed life;
Following Christ led to eternal life.

Being a preacher meant you proclaimed the word of God;
Being a deacon meant you would serve the Lord;
Being a Christian meant you would live for Jesus;
And being a sinner meant someone was praying for you!

Laws were based on the Bible;
Homes read the Bible;
And churches taught the Bible.

God was worshiped;
Christ was exalted;
And the Holy Spirit was respected..

Church was where you found Christians
on the Lord's day, rather than in the garden,
on the creek bank, on the golf course,
Or being entertained somewhere else.

I still like the old paths the best!
It is said that branches draw their life from the vine. Each is separate yet all are one as they share one life giving stem . The Bible tells us we are called to a similar union in life, our lives with the life of God. We are incorporated into him; made sharers in his life. Apart from this union we can do nothing.