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primitive discovers 0bamacare
« on: February 05, 2014, 06:27:49 AM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024439565

Oh my.

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doc03 (14,669 posts)    Mon Feb 3, 2014, 07:36 PM

I have been told by four people that work for three different employers the last couple weeks that they had their hours cut to 28.

Every one of them said their employer told them it was because of Obamacare. What say you?

It's a big campfire, and really interesting; well worth clicking on the link above to see the original.

Surprisingly, many primitives agree that, yeah, it's because of 0bamacare.

And there's this:

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doc03 (14,669 posts)    Mon Feb 3, 2014, 07:52 PM

8. If there are four people I just ran into that were complaining about having their hours cut because of Obamacare, nationwide

there are going to be millions that will vote for Republicans this fall.

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Glitterati (1,442 posts)    Tue Feb 4, 2014, 05:40 AM

15. Bullshit

My daughter was told when she was hired for a retail job at a BS company (hey, work is work when you have a car payment to make!) that should would not be ALLOWED to work more than 25 hours because of Obamacare.
 
That just makes her hate her job and her employer. It most certainly will NOT make her vote for a Republican EVER IN HER LIFE.
 
In fact, it's people like this, playing games with her young life that will CEMENT HER SUPPORT OF DEMOCRATS.
 
This bullshit is making more, better young DEMS for life while they watch Republican shenanigans live and in person.
 
The only thing these companies are doing is pushing these kids right into the arms of the Democrats. I say they should keep it up.

Dream on, dude.

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doc03 (14,669 posts)    Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:21 PM

18. Bullshit? Cnn headline today 1 1/2 million jobs may be cut because of

Obamacare. I have heard a few good stories about Obamacare but the bad ones far out number the good. We will loose the Senate

this year and probably more seats in the house because of Obamacare in my opinion. It may feal good thinking opinions will change before November but it sure doesn't look like it.

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Glitterati (1,442 posts)    Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:55 PM

21. Again, BULLSHIT

Do you read anything before you go around posting about it?

What that CBO report said is that more people will choose not to take SHIT JOBS which will cause them to lose their medicaid based health care and just keep looking.
 
It said less people will accept GARBAGE JOBS to keep health insurance for their kids since they can now get affordable insurance somewhere else, aka healthcare.gov.
 
In fact, it's the exact same people who you say above will now be voting republican who will be freed up to provide affordable, extensive health insurance for the families without being treated like slaves.
 
You really should read a bit before you open mouth, insert foot.

DailyKos has made it easy for you to understand here:

Right there in the report on page 117 (yes, that's a lot of pages for conservatives to read) it says:
 
"The estimated reduction stems almost entirely from a net decline in the amount of labor that workers choose to supply rather than a net drop in businesses demand for labor. "
 
The CBO is not assuming that the law will lead employers to eliminate jobs or reduce hours, and actually says that there is "no compelling evidence that part-time employment has increased as a result of the ACA." It also says this:
 
The ACA's subsidies for health insurance will both stimulate demand for health care services and allow low-income households to redirect some of the funds that they would have spent on that care toward the purchase of other goods and services—thereby increasing overall demand. That increase in overall demand while the economy remains somewhat weak will induce some employers to hire more workers or to increase the hours of current employees during that period.
 
http://www.dailykos.com/

Keep dreaming, dude.

A sample of the other primitive comments:

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Egalitarian Thug (11,858 posts)    Wed Feb 5, 2014, 03:54 AM

43. Just as foretold.

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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2014, 07:30:39 AM »
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Glitterati (1,442 posts)    Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:55 PM

21. Again, BULLSHIT

Do you read anything before you go around posting about it?

What that CBO report said is that more people will choose not to take SHIT JOBS which will cause them to lose their medicaid based health care and just keep looking. Parasite
 
It said less people will accept GARBAGE JOBS to keep health insurance for their kids since they can now get affordable insurance somewhere else, aka healthcare.gov. Parasite with children
 
In fact, it's the exact same people who you say above will now be voting republican who will be freed up to provide affordable, extensive health insurance for the families without being treated like slaves. Gimme Gimme
 
You really should read a bit before you open mouth, insert foot.

DailyKos has made it easy for you to understand here:

Right there in the report on page 117 (yes, that's a lot of pages for conservatives to read) it says:
 
"The estimated reduction stems almost entirely from a net decline in the amount of labor that workers choose to supply rather than a net drop in businesses demand for labor. "
 
The CBO is not assuming that the law will lead employers to eliminate jobs or reduce hours, and actually says that there is "no compelling evidence that part-time employment has increased as a result of the ACA." It also says this:
 
The ACA's subsidies for health insurance will both stimulate demand for health care services and allow low-income households to redirect some of the funds that they would have spent on that care toward the purchase of other goods and services—thereby increasing overall demand. That increase in overall demand while the economy remains somewhat weak will induce some employers to hire more workers or to increase the hours of current employees during that period. That is so opposite any form of basic economics it is appalling.
 
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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2014, 07:49:17 AM »
The glitter DUmmy's idea of "success": Professional leech.

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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2014, 08:11:52 AM »
hey glitter which is it...

work is work when you have a car payment to make

or

people will choose not to take SHIT JOBS which will cause them to lose their medicaid based health care

How is anyone paying their car payment if they stay unemployed?

Are they more interested in paying for and keeping their car or more interested in sitting on their ass and having someone else pay for their health insurance?

Bet their employers will be glad to hear they only offer SHIT JOBS.....Here is hoping if you have one of those SHIT JOBS, you get SHIT CANNED.
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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2014, 08:13:12 AM »
In response to the CBO report, King Hussein's spokeswhore Jay Carney said, "It's like the President has said all along: if you like your unemployment, you can keep your unemployment."
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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2014, 08:45:08 AM »
Quote from: Linda on February 05, 2014, 08:11:52 AM
hey glitter which is it...

work is work when you have a car payment to make

or

people will choose not to take SHIT JOBS which will cause them to lose their medicaid based health care

How is anyone paying their car payment if they stay unemployed?

Are they more interested in paying for and keeping their car or more interested in sitting on their ass and having someone else pay for their health insurance?

Bet their employers will be glad to hear they only offer SHIT JOBS.....Here is hoping if you have one of those SHIT JOBS, you get SHIT CANNED.

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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2014, 08:51:53 AM »
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DailyKos has made it easy for you to understand here:

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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2014, 09:06:08 AM »
In the news this morning they were talking about this very problem. The regime's response? (paraphrasing) "It will give workers more time to do things that make them happy by not being trapped in a job"


DUmmies will rejoice.
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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2014, 09:08:03 AM »
Quote from: Wineslob on February 05, 2014, 09:06:08 AM
In the news this morning they were talking about this very problem. The regime's response? (paraphrasing) "It will give workers more time to do things that make them happy by not being trapped in a job"


DUmmies will rejoice.
So this administration expects adults will be satisfied with part-time work so they can sit on their asses and **** around in their spare time?

No thanks.  That might be enough for DUmmies, artists, and Nancy Pelosi, but I'd rather earn a full week's pay for a full week of work.
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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2014, 09:35:17 AM »
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What that CBO report said is that more people will choose not to take SHIT JOBS which will cause them to lose their medicaid based health care and just keep looking

And that's a good thing???? :mental:
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2014, 10:07:07 AM »
Quote from: Wineslob on February 05, 2014, 09:06:08 AM
In the news this morning they were talking about this very problem. The regime's response? (paraphrasing) "It will give workers more time to do things that make them happy by not being trapped in a job"



Brilliant idea. That's for sure going to solve the  income inequity crisis that king barry keeps crowing about.  :whatever:
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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2014, 10:11:22 AM »
Quote from: Wineslob on February 05, 2014, 09:06:08 AM
In the news this morning they were talking about this very problem. The regime's response? (paraphrasing) "It will give workers more time to do things that make them happy by not being trapped in a job"

At whose expense?

Who is going to pay for all this Dummy happiness?

 

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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2014, 10:14:42 AM »
Quote from: Dori on February 05, 2014, 10:11:22 AM
At whose expense?

Who is going to pay for all this Dummy happiness?

 


Go into the nearest bathroom and look into the mirror.  The person staring back at you is the person who will be paying for this DUmmy happiness.
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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2014, 10:20:22 AM »
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who will be freed up to provide affordable, extensive health insurance for the families without being treated like slaves.

There's a little problem with that.  Part time jobs pay for shit.  Health care is not affordable.  Before you say "subsidies," those are shit, too.  If you make 100% of the poverty line, you get a subsidy.  If you make 99% of it, you get nothing.  Fine line to skate there, isn't it? 
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2014, 10:30:19 AM »
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Glitterati (1,442 posts)    Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:55 PM

21. Again, BULLSHIT

Do you read anything before you go around posting about it?

What that CBO report said is that more people will choose not to take SHIT JOBS which will cause them to lose their medicaid based health care and just keep looking.
 
It said less people will accept GARBAGE JOBS to keep health insurance for their kids since they can now get affordable insurance somewhere else, aka healthcare.gov.  blah, blah, blah, 'Rat talking points, blah...

You know, that poor dopey economist Furman, who came out to give the White House spin on why bad news is good news yesterday, said something that stuck in my mind, that none of the people laughing at him have really picked up for comment.  He was talking about people who were working 60 or 65 hours a week going down to 35 and so just becoming part-timers.  However, it strikes me that any job that can be cut to 35 hours will actually be cut to no more than 29 for obvious Obamacare-based reasons, and no worker that is actually workloaded to 60 hours now is likely to be cut at all, since replacing them in producing that same work output involves taking up the additional overhead for one or two more part-time workers in addition to the keeping the guy whose hours were cut to 20-25.  What will actually happen in a lot of businesses is that for every two workers clocking 38-40 hours now as full-timers, there will be three part-time workers clocking 25-29 hours.  And one of them will be enjoying welfare of some kind, or several kinds, while the other two desperately look for an additional part-time job that will fit their schedule, make up for the lost pay, and give them enough more money to actually pay the additional cost of their wonderful Obamacare coverage.
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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2014, 10:41:00 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on February 05, 2014, 10:30:19 AM
You know, that poor dopey economist Furman, who came out to give the White House spin on why bad news is good news yesterday, said something that stuck in my mind, that none of the people laughing at him have really picked up for comment.  He was talking about people who were working 60 or 65 hours a week going down to 35 and so just becoming part-timers.  However, it strikes me that any job that can be cut to 35 hours will actually be cut to no more than 29 for obvious Obamacare-based reasons, and no worker that is actually workloaded to 60 hours now is likely to be cut at all, since replacing them in producing that same work output involves taking up the additional overhead for one or two more part-time workers in addition to the keeping the guy whose hours were cut to 20-25.  What will actually happen in a lot of businesses is that for every two workers clocking 38-40 hours now as full-timers, there will be three part-time workers clocking 25-29 hours.  And one of them will be enjoying welfare of some kind, or several kinds, while the other two desperately look for an additional part-time job that will fit their schedule, make up for the lost pay, and give them enough more money to actually pay the additional cost of their wonderful Obamacare coverage.

If we all just joined the government dole like the Supreme Chancellor Obama wants, none of this would be a problem. 
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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2014, 10:45:16 AM »
That's one way to fix unemployment....hire 2 part timers to do the job of one full timer....make room for more illegal aliens.
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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2014, 11:04:36 AM »
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doc03 (14,669 posts)    Mon Feb 3, 2014, 07:36 PM

I have been told by four people that work for three different employers the last couple weeks that they had their hours cut to 28.

Every one of them said their employer told them it was because of Obamacare. What say you?

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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2014, 12:19:47 PM »
Quote from: Wineslob on February 05, 2014, 09:06:08 AM
In the news this morning they were talking about this very problem. The regime's response? (paraphrasing) "It will give workers more time to do things that make them happy by not being trapped in a job"


DUmmies will rejoice.

Ummm no..those men and women of leisure will soon be clambering for all the spoils of a full time job as they have been already. The above of course is just a stupid desperate response from losing democrats and they know it. People make ridiculous responses like that when they know their ship can no longer stay above the water it's so damaged. It's as if in their own perilous anxiety they can't even think straight to come up with a better lie.
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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2014, 12:30:11 PM »
Quote from: Wineslob on February 05, 2014, 09:06:08 AM
In the news this morning they were talking about this very problem. The regime's response? (paraphrasing) "It will give workers more time to do things that make them happy by not being trapped in a job"


DUmmies will rejoice.

I'm thinking of one DUmmy in particular.

Who else has more time to do the things that make them happy, by not being trapped in a job?

Hobos. Especially Tucson hobos.

They have all kinds of time- even time for sex; with Indians, lesbians, and any plasma donor with $5. Their particular brand of boom-boom may be called...

Hobosexuality.
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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2014, 12:42:25 PM »
Quote from: Linda on February 05, 2014, 08:11:52 AM
hey glitter which is it...

work is work when you have a car payment to make

or

people will choose not to take SHIT JOBS which will cause them to lose their medicaid based health care

How is anyone paying their car payment if they stay unemployed?

Are they more interested in paying for and keeping their car or more interested in sitting on their ass and having someone else pay for their health insurance?

Bet their employers will be glad to hear they only offer SHIT JOBS.....Here is hoping if you have one of those SHIT JOBS, you get SHIT CANNED.

You know, DUmmies...I took a "SHIT JOB" as a waitress at a Waffle House so that I could pay my bills. And guess what...now I have a better job. But I did what I had to do in order to survive without a single damn handout from the other taxpayers in this country (unless you want to count tips as "handouts :-) )
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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2014, 02:27:45 PM »
Quote from: Big Dog on February 05, 2014, 12:30:11 PM
I'm thinking of one DUmmy in particular.

Who else has more time to do the things that make them happy, by not being trapped in a job?

Hobos. Especially Tucson hobos.

They have all kinds of time- even time for sex; with Indians, lesbians, and any plasma donor with $5. Their particular brand of boom-boom may be called...

Hobosexuality.

 :lmao: :rotf: :rofl: :lmao: :rotf: :rofl: :lmao: :rotf: :rofl: :lmao: :rotf: :rofl:

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« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2014, 04:20:12 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on February 05, 2014, 02:27:45 PM
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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2014, 04:28:26 PM »
Quote from: Big Dog on February 05, 2014, 12:30:11 PM
I'm thinking of one DUmmy in particular.

Who else has more time to do the things that make them happy, by not being trapped in a job?

Hobos. Especially Tucson hobos.

They have all kinds of time- even time for sex; with Indians, lesbians, and any plasma donor with $5. Their particular brand of boom-boom may be called...

Hobosexuality.

Hobophobe.
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Re: primitive discovers 0bamacare
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2014, 01:27:18 PM »
You know things are bad when the DUches are beginning to see the light of reality. I fully expect a purge of the Obama Care deniers in the coming months as this solely democrat provided cluster **** goes from bad to worse.
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