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primitives discuss Minnesota having the highest rate of alcoholism
« on: January 31, 2014, 08:43:46 AM »
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dipsydoodle (38,458 posts)    Fri Jan 31, 2014, 06:50 AM

Vodka Blamed for Dismal Russian Life Expectancy Figures.

MOSCOW, January 31 (RIA Novosti) – A new report detailing the devastating toll of vodka on male life expectancy in Russia has been published, just as the country marks the unofficial 149th anniversary of the spirit’s invention.
 
The study published Friday in British medical journal The Lancet has found that 25 percent of Russian men die before the age of 55, compared with only 7 percent of men in the United Kingdom.
 
Many of those deaths are thought to have been caused by Russia's long-abiding devotion to heavy drinking.
 
Average life expectancy for men in Russia is 64 years, compared to 78.5 for British men.
 
http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140131/187079194/Vodka-Blamed-For-Dismal-Russian-Life-Expectancy-Figures.html
 
US figures for comparison here : http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/usa/life-expectancy-male
 
Why would Minnesota's be the highest ? Asking because I'm UK so do not easily relate.

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LuvNewcastle (5,861 posts)    Fri Jan 31, 2014, 07:11 AM

4. It also has a lot to do with their falling birth rate.

Their birth rate has been falling for a long time, and they want to blame everything for it but their drunkenness.

The falling birth rate is one of the main reasons they are going after gay people. They're afraid that homosexuality will 'catch on' and they'll go extinct.* They blame immigrants and all sorts of other things. Blame the witches, but don't blame my vodka.
 
As far as the higher life expectancy in Minnesota, I've heard that people who live in colder climates tend to live longer than people in the warmer climes. If that's true, I suppose Russians would be living a very long time if they would just stop drinking themselves to death.

*stupidest gratuitous Big Lie of the Day, from Skins's island.

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Ron Obvious (2,239 posts)   Fri Jan 31, 2014, 07:17 AM

5. I wouldn't've guessed that Minnesotans had the highest drinking rates...

I'm originally from the UK too, but I've been here long enough to count as native and to be able to relate.
 
I remember a few years ago seeing Wisconsin (Mrs. Obvious' Home State) listed as having the highest rate of alcohol use and the longest life expectancy.
 
I remember drawing a lot of iinsightful conclusions from that back then, and saying a lot of intelligent things that have since evaporated in an alcoholic mist.
 
Still, there it is.

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theHandpuppet (13,816 posts)   Fri Jan 31, 2014, 07:42 AM

7. Minnesotans have the longest life expectancy

I don't think they have the highest drinking rate -- did you misread the chart?

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madrchsod (57,922 posts)    Fri Jan 31, 2014, 07:31 AM

6. Norwegians,Germans,and Swedes. ok, i`ll include the Irish.

these four made up 90+ of the population.

this guy explains it all....http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Garrison_Keillor

Oh now, that's nonsense, this stereotype of Scandinavians as heavy drinkers.

Nebraska's chock full of those of Scandinavian derivation, and in fact probably has the highest percentage of those specifically of Danish derivation in all fifty states; Danes in Nebraska have a long history of favoring temperance, even prohibition.

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HereSince1628 (28,021 posts)    Fri Jan 31, 2014, 08:26 AM

9. Minnesota is one of the top US states with regard to educational attainment.

Usually ranking in the top 2 or 3 in the US. Minnesota is also usually among the bottom 5 in murder rates.
 
I wouldn't say this is due to a direct effect of education alone, but rather that education is strongly associated with a broad range of benefits of higher socio-economic status that contribute to better diets, utilization of healthcare, freedom from criminal activity, etc. that collectively lead to greater life-expectancy.
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Re: primitives discuss Minnesota having the highest rate of alcoholism
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2014, 09:02:29 AM »

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Ron Obvious (2,239 posts)   Fri Jan 31, 2014, 07:17 AM

5. I wouldn't've guessed that Minnesotans had the highest drinking rates...

I'm originally from the UK too, but I've been here long enough to count as native and to be able to relate.
 
I remember a few years ago seeing Wisconsin (Mrs. Obvious' Home State) listed as having the highest rate of alcohol use and the longest life expectancy.
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Re: primitives discuss Minnesota having the highest rate of alcoholism
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2014, 09:06:01 AM »
The Russian communist used cheap Vodka to sedate the populous , the Democrat communist will use cheap pot to sedate the U.S. populous.
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Re: primitives discuss Minnesota having the highest rate of alcoholism
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2014, 09:37:14 AM »
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They're afraid that homosexuality will 'catch on'

Wait.  How can something that is, genetically determined and not a choice, "catch on"?

sCiEnCE!!!11eLeBiNty!!!!! or, what?


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I remember a few years ago seeing Wisconsin (Mrs. Obvious' Home State) listed as having the highest rate of alcohol use and the longest life expectancy.

Whuuuups.......

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I remember drawing a lot of iinsightful conclusions from that back then, and saying a lot of intelligent things that have since evaporated in an alcoholic mist.

I'm smaht and I want respect, but I'm a drunk now so, whatever......
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Re: primitives discuss Minnesota having the highest rate of alcoholism
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2014, 09:41:37 AM »
Quote from: 98ZJUSMC on January 31, 2014, 09:37:14 AM
Wait.  How can something that is, genetically determined and not a choice, "catch on"?

sCiEnCE!!!11eLeBiNty!!!!! or, what?
The science is settled....it depends on which side of the argument you happen to need to be on at that particular moment.
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Re: primitives discuss Minnesota having the highest rate of alcoholism
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2014, 09:45:28 AM »
Quote from: 98ZJUSMC on January 31, 2014, 09:37:14 AM
Wait.  How can something that is, genetically determined and not a choice, "catch on"?

sCiEnCE!!!11eLeBiNty!!!!! or, what?

It's just a cheap shot by the primitive, against the Russians, who tend to be more knowledgeable about things than the primitives.
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Re: primitives discuss Minnesota having the highest rate of alcoholism
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2014, 09:53:53 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on January 31, 2014, 09:06:01 AM
The Russian communist used cheap Vodka to sedate the populous , the Democrat communist will use cheap pot to sedate the U.S. populous.

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Re: primitives discuss Minnesota having the highest rate of alcoholism
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2014, 10:24:30 AM »
Study: Liberals drink more alcohol than conservatives

I guess when you have no optimism for the future, it's comforting to escape into a bottle or bong.
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Re: primitives discuss Minnesota having the highest rate of alcoholism
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2014, 11:17:14 AM »
BULL FECES from the article....

The authors of this latest study offer two theories to explain this divergence in behavior. One possibility is that people of a more liberal persuasion tend to be more open to new experiences, such as the consumption of alcohol or drugs. Another possibility is that people living in more liberal states or countries may feel more confident in government health care and social welfare to pick up the pieces if drinking leads to health or social problems.

So, non working, government tit sucking, democrat voting, deadbeat drunks are better than sober productive citizens.
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Re: primitives discuss Minnesota having the highest rate of alcoholism
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2014, 11:50:28 AM »
^^ That, above in blue, is the stupidest thing I've read all day.  Possibly all week. 
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Re: primitives discuss Minnesota having the highest rate of alcoholism
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2014, 12:48:59 PM »
PhDD's booze intake alone would be enough to push any state she resides in into the top five of alcohol intake.  It's fortunate for MN that she lives there.
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Re: primitives discuss Minnesota having the highest rate of alcoholism
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2014, 05:24:15 PM »
Quote from: BattleHymn on January 31, 2014, 12:48:59 PM
PhDD's booze intake alone would be enough to push any state she resides in into the top five of alcohol intake.  It's fortunate for MN that she lives there.

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Re: primitives discuss Minnesota having the highest rate of alcoholism
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Without stepping on some ones toes, that's not a bad mole job.
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Re: primitives discuss Minnesota having the highest rate of alcoholism
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2014, 08:41:29 PM »
While I'm thinking about, those of us of Norsk persuasion do NOT over imbibe. We do something else.
I don't know what it is, so don't ask.
We don't do it.
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Re: primitives discuss Minnesota having the highest rate of alcoholism
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Quote from: Skul on January 31, 2014, 08:41:29 PM
While I'm thinking about, those of us of Norsk persuasion do NOT over imbibe. We do something else.
I don't know what it is, so don't ask.
We don't do it.
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15 drunkest nations in the world

15) Ireland
14) Portugal
13) South Korea
12) Lithuania
11) Croatia
10) Belarus
09) Slovenia
08) Romania
07) Andorra
06) Estonia
05) Ukraine
04) Russia
03) Hungary
02) Czech Republic
01) Moldova

Notice, please, the absence of Finland, Sweden, Norway, and Denmark from the list.
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Re: primitives discuss Minnesota having the highest rate of alcoholism
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2014, 03:06:17 AM »
I also noticed the top 12 were commie countries.

I look for the US to be in the top 10 soon.
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Re: primitives discuss Minnesota having the highest rate of alcoholism
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2014, 05:10:18 PM »
I figured the Minnesotans drank more in an attempt to keep warm while ice fishing.

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