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Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« on: January 24, 2014, 11:17:07 AM »
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Where did this whole democratic party = communist come from on the right

I'm debating someone who swears up and down that's the truth even after I pulled up the website of the United States communist party and showed him the difference right in their stated goals compared to what's the current democratic party. I mean where the hell did this idea on the right come from

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1. Lack of education?

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IDemo (13,006 posts)

2. Binary thinking
 
Good/evil, heaven/hell, black/white. You're either a white evangelical Reagan republican or a Marxist. There are no gray areas in their thinking, or very few.
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3. Mostly the red scare of the 1950s, Nixon and McCarthy
 
The Republicans hadn't had the white house in some 20 years, they felt sidelined in their own country. When they saw an opportunity to paint the Democrats as Commies, they seized it.

I think it's mutated since then - you throw in the crazy paranoia of J. Edger Hoover for example, and Alger Hiss, and others, and the fact that there really were some commies in the government (although they blew it out of proportion), then the John Birch society, normal American Xenophobia, the fear of blacks and cities, and it all becomes a toxic stew.

I don't think most republicans are calling us communist with any understanding of the term - they mostly just mean "not American."

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6. That's another thing who are they to decide who is a American

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4. Faux Nooz

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13. It started back in the pleistoscene
 
when them reds became a problem. It precedes the modern parties to be honest, as it goes back to the 1830s, and it also precedes Marx and a few others.

To think that the first red scare was a democratic pursuit... anyhow to answer your question.

In it's modern form it got hardened with the New Deal.


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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2014, 11:26:00 AM »
Or, it could be something as simple as your own words and deeds, DUmbass...
"We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and then bid the geldings to be fruitful."

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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2014, 11:32:38 AM »
I dunno,all the hammer and sickle,raised clenched fist,Che and Marx AVs so many of you DUmbasses have might mean something.

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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2014, 11:33:51 AM »
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2014, 12:02:58 PM »
Here's some of the stated goals of the CPUSA from the 1950's. Let's count how many the Democrats have adopted, and liberals/progressives in particular.

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principal of “separation of church and state.”

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture–education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use "united force" to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2014, 12:03:36 PM »
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck democrat communist.
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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2014, 12:11:06 PM »
they are in such denial. Clinically psychotic denial.
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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2014, 12:11:37 PM »
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Let's count how many the Democrats have adopted, and liberals/progressives in particular.


I'd say nearly all.
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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2014, 12:12:29 PM »
What could ever give us that idea?  :???:

http://www.socialistamerican.com/phpbb/index.php

The tavernturd primitive wasn't banned over there due to his politics, he was banned for other things.
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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2014, 12:35:07 PM »
The tavernturd primitive wasn't banned over there due to his politics, he was banned for other things.

Completely agree. There's a whole group over there, and always has been, that are "Yes, we agree with you, but you can't be saying those types of things in public." No doubt Tavs was targeted by those members who find it to be their duty to police deviations from the official party line, and that was part of why he was sent out to pasture.

This is the main reason I (and others, though it might not be *their* main reason) wish the primitives would ignore us observing them, because they deviate from being as honest about their beliefs as they would like to be. We are more honest about what they believe than they're willing to be publicly. I've lost count of how many times I've read their lines knowing they were saying what they had to state publicly rather than what they truly believed.

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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2014, 12:48:16 PM »
Would anybody care to post a screenshot of when the CPUSA endorsing Obumbles in 2008, and again in 2012?

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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2014, 12:57:16 PM »
Would anybody care to post a screenshot of when the CPUSA endorsing Obumbles in 2008, and again in 2012?

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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2014, 01:29:15 PM »
What the hell is wrong with them?  Don't they read their own site? 

I'm glad the label is sticking. 

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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2014, 01:36:01 PM »
What the hell is wrong with them?  Don't they read their own site? 

I'm glad the label is sticking. 
They live in such a world of delusion it is hard to guess what is real to them.

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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2014, 02:19:45 PM »
I haven't done this in a few years, but I used to look at the platforms for the major parties, and the most popular third parties during election years. Every time I looked at the communist, socialist, Green Party and every other moonbat platform they were damn near a perfect match for the democrat party platform. So where could I possibly get the idea they are commies? Must be faux snooze and Rush lying to me right! No DUmmies my own eyes reading the words of admitted commies gives me that idea. You are nothing but a bunch if communist freaks and need to be defeated until you only exist in the dustbin of history.
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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2014, 02:27:40 PM »
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23. Birchers is the short answer.
 
Now the right thinks anyone to the left of Ted Cruz is a Red. It's like a cult.

An interesting question to think about is why it ultimately matters to them? What do they think it means if they "prove" liberals are secretly Communists? (Disclaimer: I actually am a Communist, but I ask these questions too.) 

Why oh why do they think we're Communists? 

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37. A lack of a formal education will do that.
 
The GOP is chock full of people that didn't finish HS and never even considered college. 

You don't know your enemy very well, do you?  Fatal flaw.

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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2014, 02:59:45 PM »
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The GOP is chock full of people that didn't finish HS and never even considered college.

Explain how it was that Romney won the college graduate vote then, DUmbass.

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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2014, 03:01:53 PM »
Explain how it was that Romney won the college graduate vote then, DUmbass.

To this I would also add that Obumbles carried 63% of the high school dropout vote.  Explain that statistic, while you're at it. 

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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2014, 03:04:53 PM »
Explain how it was that Romney won the college graduate vote then, DUmbass.

I think you have to specify which college. The muslim carried 95%+ at some of them.

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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2014, 03:11:08 PM »
I think you have to specify which college. The muslim carried 95%+ at some of them.

True.  I am sure he locked up the South American Slavery and 19th Century Brazilian bloc of college graduates.

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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2014, 03:35:30 PM »
I a way the DUchebags are right. The American left should be called Stalinists. That is a particularly bad branch of the poisonous communism tree. The current democrat leadership would be more appropriately be put under the other far left government, fascism.
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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2014, 07:31:42 PM »
Collectivists, all of them.

"We're all in this together, so fork over some of yours".

Discussing whether they're socialists, communists, stalinist, marxists, democrats, <insert random collectivist rebranding distraction label here>, is like arguing what to call the same ice cream with different brand toppings of essentially the same flavor.

They know what they are, and we know what they are. It sounds to me like the DUmmies don't like how this particular shoe fits.

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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2014, 07:40:58 PM »
Here's some of the stated goals of the CPUSA from the 1950's. Let's count how many the Democrats have adopted, and liberals/progressives in particular.

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
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45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

I went through the list. I'll be damned if there is not one...ONE!...item that the current Democrat party doesn't agree with, at least in part. Indeed, one can argue the current Democratic Party is MORE communist than the Communist party of the '50's, particularly with the addition of the environmentalist movement.
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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2014, 07:46:40 PM »
Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists.... ...you've murdered 55 million, that puts you right up there with the great communist, Stalin, Mao...no pikers like Pol Pot and Castro.
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Re: Dummy Wonders Why They Are Called Communists
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2014, 04:40:06 PM »
Dummies are so blind.  They are making fun of a comedian's song about there being a communist in the White House.  :whatever:

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Just when you think Victoria Jackson can't get any more stupid...

She sets a new record.

Painfully Stupid Victoria Jackson: Communist Party Helping Obama and Democrats in 2014 Elections

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/02/painfully-stupid-victoria-jackson

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2. Actually, I would never think that.
 
Stupid is a singularity into which all vestiges of intelligent thought collapse. Accusations of communism and socialism are right wing dog whistles.

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4. If you can't tell spending on physical and social infrastructure from mass-murdering police states..

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10. I am totally convinced she is a liberal Democrat who voted 2x for Obama.
 
Don't you get it? It's a stunt, like something Andy Kaufman would pull.

She pretends to be a teabagger to make them look like cementheaded Neanderthals and siphon off votes from people who are turned off by this loony rhetoric.

She's BRILLIANT!! Really, after watching that video do you think anybody is that TOTALLY STOOPID?

Let's hear it for our secret Democratic mole!
 

You think Victoria is a Democratic mole?  Now whose stupid?


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