If we're LUCKY enough to win in 2014 and 2016...

[b-ONE-b]

It might be our LAST CHANCE to set a stable base foundation for the future of the country.

IMHO... we have a great shot at 2014. We have a good shot at 2016 because I believe Hillary will not stand up well to scrutiny. And if we do win 2016, we have a great chance to be in power until 2024.

However... in 2024 there is a strong possibility that TEXAS and FLORIDA will be BLUE. If we lose TEXAS and FLORIDA permanently, we're DONE.

So, if we're LUCKY enough to be in power for the that period, we need to make changes that will affect the future. We need to institute changes to level the future playing field.

1) Make the Congressional Districts safer for Republicans.

2) Return Senate Selection to State Legislatures

3) Stock the SCOTUS and Federal Courts

4) Buffer States rights

5) Reduce entitlements for the future


If they DON'T think like this... and try to play footsy with the DEMS, they may NEVER get another chance.

[DefiantSix]

So, if we're LUCKY enough to be in power for the that period, we need to make changes that will affect the future. We need to institute changes to level the future playing field.

1) Make the Congressional Districts safer for Republicans...

There's your first problem, right there. 

My second deepest political wish - right after a hunting license for anyone with a (D) appended to their name - is to sit back in my lawn chair with a bowl of popcorn and watch the Republican Party follow the example of the Whig party they replaced, and quietly fade into extinction.

 

[b-ONE-b]

There's your first problem, right there. 

My second deepest political wish - right after a hunting license for anyone with a (D) appended to their name - is to sit back in my lawn chair with a bowl of popcorn and watch the Republican Party follow the example of the Whig party they replaced, and quietly fade into extinction.

 

with a permanent DEM POTUS, we will need to make that office weaker.

[DefiantSix]

with a permanent DEM POTUS, we will need to make that office weaker.

No we don't. We just need to replace the officeholders in all three Federal branches with ones who are protective of their Constitutional responsibilities (AKA: ones who will defend the separations of powers as written and slap down an officeholder in the other two branches who oversteps his authority.

In other words, the DC Cesspool needs to be completely flushed. One way or the other.

[b-ONE-b]

No we don't. We just need to replace the officeholders in all three Federal branches with ones who are protective of their Constitutional responsibilities (AKA: ones who will defend the separations of powers as written and slap down an officeholder in the other two branches who oversteps his authority.

In other words, the DC Cesspool needs to be completely flushed. One way or the other.

yes, that's the Miss America answer and in principle I agree. I agree 100% that in theory we need complete change. But it will never happen.

But in reality, there are too many DEM-aligned parasitic class voters to elect Conservatives in the future. The parasite class is growing in size and will continue to grow. When one can vote directly for their own economic gain they will vote for the handout.

Virginia now looks to be a perma-DEM state. Florida won't be easy. North Carolina is a purple state. Look at an electoral map, fill it in yourself to get 270+.

[DefiantSix]

yes, that's the Miss America answer and in principle I agree. I agree 100% that in theory we need complete change. But it will never happen.

But in reality, there are too many DEM-aligned parasitic class voters to elect Conservatives in the future. The parasite class is growing in size and will continue to grow. When one can vote directly for their own economic gain they will vote for the handout.

Virginia now looks to be a perma-DEM state. Florida won't be easy. North Carolina is a purple state. Look at an electoral map, fill it in yourself to get 270+.

Whatever. BS'ed (again) for being squishy.

[thundley4]

We have a good shot at 2016 because I believe Hillary will not stand up well to scrutiny

Exactly who is going to provide that scrutiny, the MSM?  Unfortunately, most of Americans that get any information at all get it from the LeftStream Media.  Add those together with the Low Info and No Info voters, (the Democrat base), and Hillary won't have much problem.

[DefiantSix]

yes, that's the Miss America answer and in principle I agree. I agree 100% that in theory we need complete change. But it will never happen.

But in reality, there are too many DEM-aligned parasitic class voters to elect Conservatives in the future. The parasite class is growing in size and will continue to grow. When one can vote directly for their own economic gain they will vote for the handout.

Virginia now looks to be a perma-DEM state. Florida won't be easy. North Carolina is a purple state. Look at an electoral map, fill it in yourself to get 270+.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrpBLDWyCI[/youtube]

I would suggest to you that the reason those states are turning blue/purple, is because squishes like yourself refuse to offer a clear alternative to the commie bastards of the Democrat party's Marxist "utopia" (shithole).  You don't take a stand, so nobody will stand with you.

This more than any other reason, is why I wish to see the Republican Party dead, buried and forgotten.

[b-ONE-b]

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrpBLDWyCI[/youtube]

I would suggest to you that the reason those states are turning blue/purple, is because squishes like yourself refuse to offer a clear alternative to the commie bastards of the Democrat party's Marxist "utopia" (shithole).  You don't take a stand, so nobody will stand with you.

This more than any other reason, is why I wish to see the Republican Party dead, buried and forgotten.

how am I a "squish"?

I'm pointing out a reality. That reality is that there is a demographic shift in states that are needed to elect a Republican President. ALL I am saying is to take precautions if we have power in 2014 or 2016. Take precautions that can reduce the power of the executive branch. What's "squish" about that? There are too many dependent parasite voters that can't be persuaded by promises of Liberty and Freedom. Virginia is now a lost cause because of D.C. leeches and parasites in NoVa. Florida is being overrun by former NorthEast liberals who are still voting the same way they were in Vermont, Mass or NY.

We have a window over the next 5-10 years before the Demographics win. During this time, we need to strengthen the power of the State, the Congress and if possible the SCOTUS. If State Legislatures appointed their own Senators (like they did for most of the past 200+ years) we'd have a Senate majority today.

I'm not a "squish" at all, I'm a realist. Attention must be paid to countering the parasite class in the future, because the parasite class WILL be the majority.

[Dori]

I'm not a "squish" at all, I'm a realist. Attention must be paid to countering the parasite class in the future, because the parasite class WILL be the majority.

I think a lot of it has happened because of liberal education and the entertainment industry.  Of course having a left leaning media that doesn't let conservatives have a voice, or they hide the truths of their own party, is another huge problem.

Look at the past election.  Obama won and here a year later his poll numbers are in the 30's.  Why?  He's still the same person he was in 2012.  Also, I think a lot has to do with who our candidates are.  The RNC is lousy at messaging.

If Obamacare doesn't swing voters our way, then yeah....I think it's time to stick a fork in us.

[DefiantSix]

how am I a "squish"?

I'm pointing out a reality. That reality is that there is a demographic shift in states that are needed to elect a Republican President. ALL I am saying is to take precautions if we have power in 2014 or 2016. Take precautions that can reduce the power of the executive branch. What's "squish" about that? There are too many dependent parasite voters that can't be persuaded by promises of Liberty and Freedom. Virginia is now a lost cause because of D.C. leeches and parasites in NoVa. Florida is being overrun by former NorthEast liberals who are still voting the same way they were in Vermont, Mass or NY.

We have a window over the next 5-10 years before the Demographics win. During this time, we need to strengthen the power of the State, the Congress and if possible the SCOTUS. If State Legislatures appointed their own Senators (like they did for most of the past 200+ years) we'd have a Senate majority today.

I'm not a "squish" at all, I'm a realist. Attention must be paid to countering the parasite class in the future, because the parasite class WILL be the majority.

You are a "squish" because in pointing out the "reality" you are subconsciously making the excuses for why you cannot change the reality, and thereby conditioning yourself to ACCEPT the reality.  The Dems don't need to defeat you, because you've already half-beaten yourself.

I on the other hand, am an engineer. My day-to-day life is consists almost exclusively of CHANGING the reality, not accepting it as it is.  Give me a long enough lever and a place to stand, and I can move the world.

[Eupher]

D6, I love ya like a brother, but I think you're blinded by your idealism. B1B is on point with this analysis, at least on the surface.

First of all, if you're an engineer, you know that statements like "getting a hunting license with anyone with a (D) appended to their name" is pure rhetoric and not at all based in reality. You ain't changin' that one, lever or no lever -- unless you want to go to jail, of course.

Like it or not, the demographic and cultural shift IS a reality. The country is swinging left, and this is not just Euph lamenting and pissing in the wind. When you've got entire sections of the country that look at our social practices these days (on-demand, state-funded abortions, gay marriage, entitlement-hungry pissants, illegal immigration is okay, etc.), it's pretty easy to see where things are headed.

BUT, this doesn't mean to throw in the towel, and I take exception to your statement to B1B that he's defeated before he even starts. He never said he wouldn't work toward keeping those things from happening -- he's just pointing out trends and what the data show. Engineer that you are, you should know this.

I couldn't agree with you more about the Republican party. It's a shadow of its former self and I don't like what I see there. But it is the "other party" at the moment and you're forgetting that the aim of the Tea Party isn't to become yet another (failed) third party, but to effect change within the Republican party. This has the Repub elite in a quandary and they are employing all the means at their disposal to squash the Tea Party.

I've donated to the Tea Party and will continue to do so, because I believe in those general principles. But being the realist I am, when you've got the Dems, the MSM, and even the Repub elite drawing a bead on the Tea Partiers, how long can that last? I hope their efforts fully fail and the Juan McLames, McConnells, Boners, and the rest of the Repub elite run out of ammo, but that just might be wishful, hopeful thinking on my part.

Nope, I think B1B is on target with this. And it's a fight to the finish. If the illegal/amnesty thing becomes a reality, we're ****ed. Pure and simple.

[Crazy Horse]

D6, I love ya like a brother, but I think you're blinded by your idealism. B1B is on point with this analysis, at least on the surface.

First of all, if you're an engineer, you know that statements like "getting a hunting license with anyone with a (D) appended to their name" is pure rhetoric and not at all based in reality. You ain't changin' that one, lever or no lever -- unless you want to go to jail, of course.

Like it or not, the demographic and cultural shift IS a reality. The country is swinging left, and this is not just Euph lamenting and pissing in the wind. When you've got entire sections of the country that look at our social practices these days (on-demand, state-funded abortions, gay marriage, entitlement-hungry pissants, illegal immigration is okay, etc.), it's pretty easy to see where things are headed.

BUT, this doesn't mean to throw in the towel, and I take exception to your statement to B1B that he's defeated before he even starts. He never said he wouldn't work toward keeping those things from happening -- he's just pointing out trends and what the data show. Engineer that you are, you should know this.

I couldn't agree with you more about the Republican party. It's a shadow of its former self and I don't like what I see there. But it is the "other party" at the moment and you're forgetting that the aim of the Tea Party isn't to become yet another (failed) third party, but to effect change within the Republican party. This has the Repub elite in a quandary and they are employing all the means at their disposal to squash the Tea Party.

I've donated to the Tea Party and will continue to do so, because I believe in those general principles. But being the realist I am, when you've got the Dems, the MSM, and even the Repub elite drawing a bead on the Tea Partiers, how long can that last? I hope their efforts fully fail and the Juan McLames, McConnells, Boners, and the rest of the Repub elite run out of ammo, but that just might be wishful, hopeful thinking on my part.

Nope, I think B1B is on target with this. And it's a fight to the finish. If the illegal/amnesty thing becomes a reality, we're ****ed. Pure and simple.

  Damn spot on

[BlueStateSaint]

Remember how Hillary was 'inevitable' going in to the 2008 elections?  I do.

Then along came a no-name, clean slate Leftist named Barack Obama and Hillary was out on the side.

What's my point? 

Events change things.  We don't know what is coming down the pike.  For all we know, the stock market is going to continue to tank (seeing that the Fed is making more noises about how it should taper QE, it's likely), thus destroying millions of older Americans' retirement accounts; Iran is going to sail a ship with a nuke into New York Harbor and detonate the thing--and set off a nuke in Israel at the same time; China will instigate a regional war with Japan, the Phillipines, and Taiwan; 75 to 100 million people are going to either lose or pay a lot more for their health insurance next year--and find out this summer; the drought in the West will cause food prices to go through the roof this summer/fall; or a myriad of other things that will cause the Dems to react poorly.  While I firmly believe that it's best to plan for the worst, you can't be resigned to the worst.  Live as if it's going to change--because it will.  (And, it's got to get better.)

[Eupher]

I suppose a lot of people thought Hillary was a shoo-in for the Dem nomination, but I never did. I always felt she had too much baggage, too much D.C. taint, too many questions remained about too many things.

I agree with you, BSS, on how events can change things. The scenarios you painted are certainly a lot of WTF moments wrapped up in a few sentences. And no doubt those things could happen.

Looking at overall trends and the shape of things that are coming, though, some of those things just aren't realistic.

Iran setting off a nuke in NY harbor? Even with the 'nadless Boy King in the Oval Orifice, that's something that even he couldn't ignore. Much more likely is Iran passing a weapon to Hezbollah and have them do it as a proxy -- in Israel. Iran can then step back and say, "Oh my!" Yep, I'd agree with QE coming to a close, the stock market bull market is pretty much done.

These are extraordinary things and while they may happen, the outcome of those things is far less predictable.

[thundley4]

I suppose a lot of people thought Hillary was a shoo-in for the Dem nomination, but I never did. I always felt she had too much baggage, too much D.C. taint, too many questions remained about too many things.

I think the elites that run the DNC knew that and groomed a no name leftist black man for the job. If anyone could unseat Hillary at the time, it was a "clean, well spoken, articulate black man".

[b-ONE-b]

I think the elites that run the DNC knew that and groomed a no name leftist black man for the job. If anyone could unseat Hillary at the time, it was a "clean, well spoken, articulate black man".

WHEN did the DNC find a "clean, well spoken, articulate black man"? I certainly don't see any, unless they're talking about Ben Carson but he's a conservative.

[Eupher]

WHEN did the DNC find a "clean, well spoken, articulate black man"? I certainly don't see any, unless they're talking about Ben Carson but he's a conservative.

The MSM creamed their jeans after the 2004 DNC speech in which Barry read from a teleprompter. When he does that and the thing functions without falling over, they say he speaks pretty well.

I didn't see it either, but that's just because I don't cream my jeans when a politician -- ANY politician -- speaks. I start looking for the rhetoric and the lies and the spin, not necessarily in that order.