tightwad Atman's not paying $80

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024357024

Oh my.

First off, the dicke fette Bennyboy primitive:

Bennyboy (10,157 posts)    Sun Jan 19, 2014, 11:52 AM

The Great California Exodus begins today....

Yep, some of my long time Tahoe buddies are pulling out, following the snow to Colorado today. Lifers on the hills. All reliant on the ski industry in some way or another and there ain't NOBODY in Tahoe right now. No snow, no skiers, nobody buying coffee, renting skis or using lifts.
 
Sierra is talking seriously about closing this week. Squaw is losing millions, keeping a resort open with no snow. No Thanksgiving, no Christmas/NY and now it looks like President's day is in serious danger of being a wipeout.
 
my friends are lifers up there and to see them move is so sad. They gotta follow the money and will will be seeing a huge bunch of people, with no tahoe jobs, moving elsewhere. If they do get some snow, there will not be enough people left around to fill any jobs that do pop up... Most of the temp types that work up there have already left, but now it is the locals that are moving on......
 
When this trickles down it is going to be catastrophic to CA.....

DontTreadOnMe (2,233 posts)    Sun Jan 19, 2014, 11:57 AM

1. How many Republican climate deniers in Tahoe?

Hey, I feel for those in Tahoe, such a beautiful place.

Same think happened to the ski industry in Vermont. They went years without good snow, and all the hotels and jobs went away. Snow is coming back the last 2 years, but the resorts all got crushed a decade ago. New Englanders fly to Colorado for the snow.

senseandsensibility (11,982 posts)    Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:08 PM

10. I don't think Tahoe is particularly conservative

The only people I know who actually live there are very progressive, and everyone sports a Keep Lake Tahoe Blue sticker on their car. There are many local efforts to preserve Lake Tahoe by the locals, so much so that even a casual, yearly visitor like me is aware of them.

stevenleser (17,020 posts)    Sun Jan 19, 2014, 11:59 AM

6. This is the first good year for Vermont skiing (so far) out of the last three years.

Lots of Vermont businesses that depend on ski tourism have been hurting.

Atman (27,126 posts)    Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:56 PM

16. That's nuts! This is the first year I haven't been out this late in the season.

Last year I still got 28 days of snowboarding in Vermont. More bluebird powder days than I've had in years. The year before was TERRIBLE, yes. But I was out with a foot injury anyway, so personally I didn't miss anything, but it was bad.
 
Now there isn't a single mountain fully open, and most are in the 50% range...that is terrible! We go from sub-zero/windy too-cold-to-ski weather to 60 degrees and rain. We haven't had a good dumping of snow yet this season. Believe me, my gear is packed and I'm ready to go, but I'm not paying $80 for few blues and bunny slopes!

kpete (41,550 posts)    Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:03 PM

8. Mammoth Mountain

no base

no freshies

June Lake even worse

no water for LA LA Land

going to be a tough year

Rain dance anyone?

peace, kp

<<<wonders why the rich bitch the kpete primitive always posts as if she's heavily stoned.

beachbum bob (301 posts)   Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:16 PM

12. longterm ramifications when water for central valley argriculture is cut off to supply the drinking water for california. You will be talking food shortage and price increase we as a country have never experienced.
 
Its coming unless the water supply reservoirs are filled

Bennyboy (10,157 posts)    Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:45 PM

15. By the time summer rolls around, so many industries are going to be affected. There ain't no water, nowhere, except the already dwindling aquifer.
 
Recreation? Well they are not going to be able to boat on any lakes or rivers. Boats aren't gonna get sold, fixed, gas bought. Trails are gonna be closed and the forests are going to need to be closed, so that means no Motorized mayhem. No ATV's getting sold, no motorcoss none of that.
 
the resorts that are all about summer are gonna get killed. lake Almanor? No water, why go there? I have friends in and around Shasta and no water there either. And that lake is all about the water. The entire county's economy is based on the water on the mountains... And there ain't none.. Farmers, the recreation people, the houseboats rentals, the shasta caverns, the everything.

Atman (27,126 posts)    Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:57 PM

18. Lake Tahoe is about 1600' deep...I think most boats can run in that.

There's lots more at the link above; lots and lots of primitive gloom and doom about California.

Too bad for the primitives.

[franksolich]

You know, upon further contemplation, there's two things wrong with my twin.

Number one, he's not willing part with a measly eighty bucks to help a struggling industry when 0bozo's begging and pleading for people to spend money, so as to boost the economy. 

And the twin can do a Hell of a lot more than spending just a measly eighty bucks, to get the economy going.

Number two, the twin's betraying himself as the quintessential hedonist; notice he's far more concerned about recreation on Lake Tahoe, than about the stark fact that if farmers don't get this water, Californians are going to starve.

[Bad Dog]

Seems like his $80 would be better spent helping the starving chirrens.

[Chris_]

Last year I still got 28 days of snowboarding in Vermont.

That's awful.  I feel so bad for you.

[Mr Mannn]

people reliant on the ski industry and snowboarders. Is it REALLY that bad or has legal weed drawn them to Colorado.

[NHSparky]

New Englanders fly to Colorado for the snow.

While a good chunk of it melted last week, there was plenty around before that, and I distinctly remember shoveling about 8 inches of glowball warming out of my driveway this morning, meaning the slopes at Waterville, Sunapee, Jay Peak, Cranmore, etc., are mostly (>75 percent) open.

http://boston.snocountry.com/

Sounds to me like someone's full of shit.

[GOBUCKS]

I'm not a young man, and I don't remember there ever being a year when California wasn't suffering from a drought of the century. It's been a perpetual drought for decades.

Maybe that's what drove them crazy.

Anyway, look at the bright side. The longer a drought goes on the more fires nadin will get to report.

[NHSparky]

I'm not a young man, and I don't remember there ever being a year when California wasn't suffering from a drought of the century. It's been a perpetual drought for decades.

Maybe that's what drove them crazy.

Anyway, look at the bright side. The longer a drought goes on the more fires nadin will get to report.

Funny thing is, were it not for the guys like Mulholland, etc., LA would still be just another little dust patch stop on the Camino de Real.  The fact they had the foresight and will to create infrastructure like the California Aqueduct, etc., speaks volumes.

And the fact the people running that state today trash the very people that made California what it WAS (not is) speaks even louder.

BTW--there are lots of farmers who are considering not even planting crops there this year, and who could blame them?  Look for produce prices nationwide to skyrocket later this year and probably into 2015.

[GOBUCKS]

BTW--there are lots of farmers who are considering not even planting crops there this year, and who could blame them?  Look for produce prices nationwide to skyrocket later this year and probably into 2015.

And that's another point. I don't remember there ever being a year when some weather anomaly wasn't going to cause produce prices to skyrocket.

So far, in my lifetime, there's never been a year with the right amount of rain.

[USA4ME]

Not to worry. Governor Moonbeam and the kooks in the CA State Congress will make everything OK. I remember having read numerous times on the island over the years how Mother Earth knows when Democrats are in control and she works her healing magic.

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[NHSparky]

And that's another point. I don't remember there ever being a year when some weather anomaly wasn't going to cause produce prices to skyrocket.

So far, in my lifetime, there's never been a year with the right amount of rain.

California, for all its faults, does produce a huge amount of produce, dairy, etc., products.  Take them out of the equation, or even a significant portion of their potential, and it can't help but affect prices in the summer and fall.

[GOBUCKS]

California, for all its faults, does produce a huge amount of produce, dairy, etc., products.  Take them out of the equation, or even a significant portion of their potential, and it can't help but affect prices in the summer and fall.

No doubt about it. American agriculture still feeds the world.

But every year you hear about another weather apocalypse, yet there's never been anything in short supply, or even a noticeable price effect.

The only real threat to American farms is democrat environmental craziness.

[seahorse513]

people reliant on the ski industry and snowboarders. Is it REALLY that bad or has legal weed drawn them to Colorado.

No it is bad. My friends in the North country have less snow than we do., Right now they are making snow, which is shit to ski on.

[thundley4]

There's at least one ski resort up near Chicago that is open and has snow. 

[RobJohnson]

that if farmers don't get this water, Californians are going to starve.

So will other states like Nevada.

[franksolich]

So will other states like Nevada.

That's okay, though, just so decadent hedonists like Atman can get in their recreation.

[RobJohnson]

That's okay, though, just so decadent hedonists like Atman can get in their recreation.

$80 won't even be enough for a bag of weed if there is no water. Poor Atman will really have to budget himself.

[Skul]

The Hollywood freaks have snorted all the snow.

[jukin]

I've lived in the PRoC for almost all of my 53 years and have seen at least four major droughts. This is the way our weather is. Lots of dry years then more rain than we can handle. There is one difference in the last few decades. the leftists and environmentals have succeeded in taking quite a few damns down and stopped all new damns being built. At one point in time we had enough capacity to handle extended droughts. Now with no new storage and destroying of older capacity along with importing a lot of illegals we don't.

Another smart thing the leftists have done is to deplete our reservoir capacity to supposedly replenish ground water. This water pretty much goes right to the ocean. Our local reservoir was drained just three years ago. It was no where being filled but it was for the Earf so they did it. Our city did do one thing right and built a desalination plant.  It is moth balled but could be brought on line in a few months and a few million dollars. My guess is that our leftists would be against that though for some reason that makes no sense at all.

I could be wrong but I expect a very wet late winter and spring. Of course this will prove that there is AGW. No rain, AGW. Lots of rain, AGW. Average amount of rain, AGW.

[RobJohnson]

Global drying.

[Gern]

While a good chunk of it melted last week, there was plenty around before that, and I distinctly remember shoveling about 8 inches of glowball warming out of my driveway this morning, meaning the slopes at Waterville, Sunapee, Jay Peak, Cranmore, etc., are mostly (>75 percent) open.

http://boston.snocountry.com/

Sounds to me like someone's full of shit.

We got more Global WarmingTM snow all day Saturday into Sunday morning.  I'm looking at 4 inches worth in my yard right now in Southern NH.  

Also, the Global WarmingTM cold is returning this week, with more Global WarmingTM snow with it.

I've never heard of any New Englander flying to Colorado for snow.  That sounds like something someone from CA would say.  

[Dori]

Most of Calif. is basically a desert...arid and dry, except for maybe  some of the northern parts.  We have very few native plants that don't have to be cultivated.  Most of our rain, if we get any, is in the spring, after the fall/winter Santa Ana's fall off.  Santa Ana's are high pressure areas that cause most of the storms moving down from Alazka and the north to arc over us.  That's also when we get a lot of high winds blowing west off the deserts and fuel raging fires.

When we do get a lot of rain, which is rare, it's what is called the Catalina or Honolulu Express.  It's some weird weather pattern that funnels massive amounts of rain from out in the middle of the Pacific.  From everything I understand about our weather patterns, our rain has more to do with El Nino and La Nina conditions of the Pacific ocean.