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iverglas found
« on: January 14, 2014, 02:53:26 PM »
For background:

The OP is about the mother of all moonbat radfem blogs. It's so radical none of the Ku Klux Klams will defend it and everyone else is mocking it.

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Witchwind: "No woman is heterosexual"
   
Recently, I discovered the most radical, Valerie Solanas-level RadFem blogger I have ever read (and I have read a few).

Her contention is that all PIV is rape, and that women could never love men, but only be colonized by them.

I am attempting to grow in understanding and compassion towards the vast world of people who are not me (which is everyone, as NO ONE is just like me). I would appreciate some feedback on this. I just don't know what to think, other than finding this person to be scary and just as much of a manipulator as the men she is attacking.
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http://www.feministes-radicales.org/2013/08/13/4638/


What men call heterosexuality is an institution where men make women captive for PIV, to control our reproductive functions and steal our labour.

Heterosexuality, or sexuality with men does not exist, because the only relationship to men that exists is men’s violence, physical and mental invasion – one that men have so well crafted and disguised for so long that we can mistake it for attraction, sexual urges or love. All women’s “attraction” to men is 100% eroticised trauma bonding / stockholm syndrome. There is no other form of attraction to men possible than that. None. Any woman “sexually” or “sentimentally” attached to a man is ONLY trauma-bonded to him. This is a universal rule under patriarchy.

 ~ snip ~

So just by looking at the reality of men’s domination of women, it holds that emotional or sexual attachment to men can always only be trauma-bonding, because for it not to be trauma-bonding, men would have to not be our oppressors. But there’s more to this than what Dee Graham says, so I’m building on her theory here.

The reason so many of us trauma-bond so instantly and intensely to men in our proximity and sometimes to just any man that crosses our way, whether we are lesbian, celibate, separatist or “het”, is that we are programmed and groomed to react in this way to male threat since birth. The key to understanding this is dissociation, since trauma-bonding is a form of dissociation; so before I continue into the female child-grooming theory i’ll explain what I mean by dissociation and why trauma-bonding is a form of dissociation. Sorry if it’s a bit long but I have yet to find a shorter way of explaining it.

 ~ snip ~

This is the template on which grooming to heterosexuality is fixed. I think the reason we can so easily switch to trauma-bonding to men, experience men’s approval as such a matter of life or death, perceive that our self-worth is so dependent on somebody else’s external attention even if they are repugnant oafs, is because this is how we learned to live and survive as a child, from birth. Then we simply continue to adapt in this way to male violence as we grow, we know no other way to react to abuse. The system of captivity to parents is the same as with male ownership / relationships to men. Same isolation, same captivity, same need to dissociate / TB from ongoing abuse, etc. There’s no way we would dissociate so easily from men’s abuse were it not for this treatment as girls. There’s no way we would go near men at all.

 ~ snip ~



Some more from the primary Wordpress of this author

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http://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/24/on-colonisation-by-men-friendships-with-type-2-colonised-women-and-how-we-understand-it-as-radfems/


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Note. I’m writing on colonisation because I’ve been thinking a lot about relationships with non radfem (though already into feminism) women lately and how difficult these relationships are. This is a really important question to me because talking to women about feminism (spinning) and creating bonds with women in order to decolonise collectively from men is really what’s most important and what I believe feminism and liberation is based on. But sometimes I just get so much shit, and it never stops being painful and exhausting. I make friends with women, I introduce them to feminism, I’m full of hope that finally there will be women with whom to discuss and further radical feminism, just BE with them and not in dissonance as it usually is with colonised women, but at some point they end up betraying me, hurting me, they stop and stagnate in the middle of their tracks, may revert even, turn against me, because i’m too far ahead and they can’t go there yet, because they’re not ready to meet certain feminist standards, they have a boyfriend who keeps undoing what she just learned, they’re still not feminist enough to value our friendship and the feminist space we’re giving each other, they have no idea how rare and precious it is, or may still prefer male company. It hurts every time the same.

At first I was always wrought from brain contortion by trying to figure out what I’d done wrong for them to do that to me, I’d go over and over the situation to decrypt some hidden understanding I might have missed, something I could do so it wouldn’t repeat itself. But something new always crept up again. And I had enough, I had to find a way to protect myself because the whole thing is just too unbearable, it’s not feminist to let myself continually be hurt by women. So recently I’ve figured out a pattern: that every time a woman does this to me, this weird turning down and gaslighting or whatever she chooses to do to harm me, it’s because she was type #2 colonised. It is the common denominator to all these women, no matter how ‘almost there yet’ I thought they were. It never happens with women who aren’t type #2 colonised, or if it does happen, it mends itself easily, I know I can trust them and I don’t feel like our relationship will be threatened every minute, not knowing what to expect from them.

 ~ snip ~


Can men and women live in peace and harmony? Or should women seek social and perhaps completely physical separation from men in WBW-only spaces?

OK, on to the missing iverglas...


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174. Wanna see something funny?

Long but worth the read, Witchwind has a broken clock moment:

http://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/radical-feminist-you-say-2/

But wait! there's more! Scroll down a little ways (about 10 posts) into the comment section once you're done with the article, and look who's commenting! Without a trace of irony, even!

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178. That's actually a great read.

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It’s pretty simple in fact, and it changes your life! I personally feel much freer now that I’m not tied any more to those from the non-movement. I can tell you that non-abusive, non-dominating relationships between women are perfectly feasible and it takes you very far, it’s wonderful. And no more wasted time and energy reacting to the endless soul-destroying and life-sucking non-activity. The possibilities are so much more infinite.

I'm happy she's gotten to this point of freeing herself from all abuse, but seriously sad at what she's obviously been through to get there.

(Wasn't Saragasso Sea a poster here?)

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179. Oh yes. Yes, she was a poster here
 
Several times. One of iverglas's besties. This and this are a couple good examples of her.

Links from original post.

So, iverglas was also Sargasso Sea and SS now hangs out at witchwind.wordpress


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Re: iverglas found
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2014, 03:12:57 PM »
Isn`t this similar to the bigotry of low expectations that infests the left when it comes to race?
Rather ironic that in pushing feminism one has to tell women that they are simply deluded creatures with no control of their natural instincts.

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Re: iverglas found
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2014, 03:37:34 PM »
So, the lezzie is having as much trouble getting into women's pants as I did......good!

Hey, that's what I got out of it. She can get 'em so far but just can't quite get 'em to go all the way.
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Re: iverglas found
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2014, 04:24:52 PM »
That's all great and sensitive Sarge, but I wistfully wile away the occasional free moment I might have thinking back eons ago, of those halcyon days when a man could trundle through savannah, carefree and unencumbered, dragging his knucles on the ground. Grunting and snarling, drooling and rolling their big heads from side to side, glancing about for a chance meeting with yon fair Neanderthal maiden. Perchance it is at one of the higher end watering holes, close by the treeline. Yeah, that one. The one without the crocodiles. She, looking demure and coquettish in her hyena fur thong bikini. He, sauntering amongst the bushes and reeds, martini glass in hand, poking the other manly Neanderthal guys occasionally for a few intimate grunts and snarls as he tells raunchy jokes.

Then, his beady little eyes lock onto her equally beady eyes across the crowded dance ground. His ears begin to burn, there's an uncomfortable feeling in the groinal area and you suddenly remember where that bone went after the brontosaurus rib lunch you had with Grog, your wingman. Hey! Where is Grog? Probably still asleep back there where you spotted the Tyranasaurus Rex creeping around the brontosaurus ribbone pile.

Anyway, back at the meatlocker, err the waterhole, beady eyes locked. He moves in, trying coyishly to slice her out from the herd of her friends and maneuver her back toward the really big rocks, over by the pool tables. Subtle nudges, a few crooning burps by her ear, his left arm slowly encircling her waist. Going in for the kill. oh yeah, baby.

Suddenly, there's this tap-tapping on your shoulder. He looks down. Sees his target's little, mousy friend. Yeah the one with the really thick glasses and the knee length boa constrictor skin dress and bobby sox. BOBBY SOX! As you look down in amazement, she squeaks: "Oog, tell Eena me want go home. Now." He looks left, then right, No Grog swooping in for the interference play. Wait. wait! There's Grog. He's running along the tree line, T-rex nipping at his heels. He thinks "Ung! flying solo on mission now." He jinks left, blocks the mousy one's hand from reaching in to grab Eena's elbow. He rolls right, cutting off the mousy one's feeble attempt to back door him.

Suddenly, he looks up, grins large, pulls out the street cred equalizer and whacks both broads upside the noggin. Yeah, maybe he hit the mousy one a little harder that the breechcloth one. But as he drags them both away toward his cave, his buddies are hooting and slathering while clapping him on the shoulder, Cries of Oog! Gonna do menage-e-trois tonight, stud? Oog! Need chaperone? Oog! Where Grog?

So, into the sunset shuffles our hero, Oog, Caveman conignsor. Clubber of women. Hip Neanderthal Dude, solo ace. Gettin' ready to do hot monkey lovin' in the dirt.

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Re: iverglas found
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2014, 04:51:01 PM »
Rather ... women ... with no control of their natural instincts.


That's why I love my girlfriend so much...

she's into PIV PIM POT but definately not into PIA.

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Re: iverglas found
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2014, 04:54:10 PM »
Dare I ask.....what is "PIV"?

For some reason, I suspect I shouldn't have asked.
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2014, 04:57:40 PM »
Dare I ask.....what is "PIV"?

For some reason, I suspect I shouldn't have asked.

To heck with that! It's the PIM and POT that have me and Oog worried.

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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2014, 05:27:56 PM »
Dare I ask.....what is "PIV"?

For some reason, I suspect I shouldn't have asked.

It involves the interconnection of two body parts.

You got the rest.
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2014, 05:46:59 PM »
What is wrong with these women?  They sound deranged.

 

 
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Re: iverglas found
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2014, 05:50:28 PM »
Dare I ask.....what is "PIV"?

For some reason, I suspect I shouldn't have asked.

Penis in vagina

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Re: iverglas found
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2014, 11:19:41 PM »
That's all great and sensitive Sarge, but I wistfully wile away the occasional free moment I might have thinking back eons ago, of those halcyon days when a man could trundle through savannah, carefree and unencumbered, dragging his knucles on the ground. Grunting and snarling, drooling and rolling their big heads from side to side, glancing about for a chance meeting with yon fair Neanderthal maiden. Perchance it is at one of the higher end watering holes, close by the treeline. Yeah, that one. The one without the crocodiles. She, looking demure and coquettish in her hyena fur thong bikini. He, sauntering amongst the bushes and reeds, martini glass in hand, poking the other manly Neanderthal guys occasionally for a few intimate grunts and snarls as he tells raunchy jokes.

Then, his beady little eyes lock onto her equally beady eyes across the crowded dance ground. His ears begin to burn, there's an uncomfortable feeling in the groinal area and you suddenly remember where that bone went after the brontosaurus rib lunch you had with Grog, your wingman. Hey! Where is Grog? Probably still asleep back there where you spotted the Tyranasaurus Rex creeping around the brontosaurus ribbone pile.

Anyway, back at the meatlocker, err the waterhole, beady eyes locked. He moves in, trying coyishly to slice her out from the herd of her friends and maneuver her back toward the really big rocks, over by the pool tables. Subtle nudges, a few crooning burps by her ear, his left arm slowly encircling her waist. Going in for the kill. oh yeah, baby.

Suddenly, there's this tap-tapping on your shoulder. He looks down. Sees his target's little, mousy friend. Yeah the one with the really thick glasses and the knee length boa constrictor skin dress and bobby sox. BOBBY SOX! As you look down in amazement, she squeaks: "Oog, tell Eena me want go home. Now." He looks left, then right, No Grog swooping in for the interference play. Wait. wait! There's Grog. He's running along the tree line, T-rex nipping at his heels. He thinks "Ung! flying solo on mission now." He jinks left, blocks the mousy one's hand from reaching in to grab Eena's elbow. He rolls right, cutting off the mousy one's feeble attempt to back door him.

Suddenly, he looks up, grins large, pulls out the street cred equalizer and whacks both broads upside the noggin. Yeah, maybe he hit the mousy one a little harder that the breechcloth one. But as he drags them both away toward his cave, his buddies are hooting and slathering while clapping him on the shoulder, Cries of Oog! Gonna do menage-e-trois tonight, stud? Oog! Need chaperone? Oog! Where Grog?

So, into the sunset shuffles our hero, Oog, Caveman conignsor. Clubber of women. Hip Neanderthal Dude, solo ace. Gettin' ready to do hot monkey lovin' in the dirt.

Eons ago?

Hell, that's pretty much any Saturday night for me.


The being chased by a T-Rex part. The other stuff, not so much.

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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2014, 12:53:25 AM »
Eons ago?

Hell, that's pretty much any Saturday night for me.


The being chased by a T-Rex part
. The other stuff, not so much.

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Maybe you ought to try some different drugs.