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Offline franksolich

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is this true?
« on: June 27, 2008, 09:59:54 PM »
I got this in an e-mail today.

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From a friend in NE. I just happened to see this report the night it was on ABC.

My niece, Katelyn, stationed at Baluud, Iraq was assigned, with others of her detachment, to be escort/guard/watcher for Martha Raddatz of ABC News as she covered John McCain's recent trip to Iraq.

Katelyn and her Captain stood directly behind Raddatz as she  queried GI's walking past. They kept count of the GI's and you should remember these numbers. She asked 60 GI's who they planned to vote for in
November. 54 said John McCain, 4 for Obama and 2 for Hillary.

Katelyn called home and told her Mom and Dad to watch ABC news the next night because she was standing directly behind Raddatz and maybe they'd see her on TV. Mom and Dad of course, called and emailed all the
kinfolk to watch the newscast and maybe see Katelyn.

Well, of course, we all watched and what we saw wasn't a glimpse of Katelyn, but got a hell'uva view of skewed news.
           
After a dissertation on McCain's trip and speech, ABC showed 5 GI's being asked by Raddatz how they were going to vote in November; 3 for Obama and 2 for Clinton. No mention of the 54 for McCain.

Okay, now this sounds credible, of course, but I'm wondering if it's true.

This is why I'm losing little sleep over Barry "Goldwater" Obama, and in fact believe that as long as John McCain doesn't screw something up (which is always possible, of course), the Obamaites will carry.....Vermont in the November elections.

For quite some time--at least the past 60 years--the news media has of course been biased, but during the past generation or so, it seems the news media has gone from distorting the news to creating its own reality, which has no resemblance at all to.....reality.

And then we all find out election night.

There is a vast dichotomy between what the news media reports, and what really is going on.

And so it's time decent and civilized people learn the same tricks learned the subjects under the socialist paradise of the workers and peasants for 75 years; to read between the lines, and to discount what's being said.

I think it's eminently reasonable--remember, I've been watching and reading the news media on politics since I was a little lad--to discount news media reports, polls, the primitives, whatnot, by circa 80%.

Wait until November 4, and see if I'm not right.

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Re: is this true?
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2008, 10:45:28 PM »
I have no knowledge about the report, but like every story about the media/democrats/etc., the fact that it is believable regardless of its source says more about them than the story itself. 
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2008, 10:52:40 PM »
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Katelyn and her Captain stood directly behind Raddatz as she  queried GI's walking past. They kept count of the GI's and you should remember these numbers. She asked 60 GI's who they planned to vote for in
November. 54 said John McCain, 4 for Obama and 2 for Hillary.

Yes, that sounds about true.  :-)
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2008, 06:24:05 AM »
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/raddatz.asp

Basically Snopes would say it is true if it weren't for the fact that they have to show a bias towards liberals.
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2008, 06:43:57 AM »
Of course the DNC will do whatever they can to have overseas absentee ballots thrown out..... but they support our troops right?   
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2008, 11:48:00 AM »
I could not find a copy of the video.  ABC's video archive inexplicably jumps from April 3 to April 8, missing this story completely.  However, the Media Reserach Center caught it and has a transcript of the report on their website.

ABC Finds Soldiers in Iraq Backing Candidates: Obama and Clinton
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2008, 12:02:25 PM »
A quick Google News search comes up with this:

196,517 for Obama. (0.53 seconds)
148,543 for McCain. (0.44 seconds)
126,091 for Clinton. (1.59 seconds)

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Re: is this true?
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2008, 02:41:27 PM »
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2008, 12:02:49 PM »
Given the way I saw the media behave over there as well as my previous combat tour in Somalia...this story is very credible.
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2008, 02:12:08 PM »
Even the Snopes article confirms it, but parses the concludsion by saying that McCain was "mentioned". Seems we need to take even the professional debunkers with a pound of salt.
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2008, 03:03:29 PM »
Doesn't surprise me at all. McCain is the presumptive nominee for a reason. Despite the ideological difference some people have with him. He beat out all of the other candidates which leads me to believe that the hatred for him on the GOP side isn't nearly as intense as claimed. Same goes for the report above.

I'm with Frank. Never trust anything until the last vote is counted.
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2008, 11:38:59 AM »
I don't think there is any hatred within R ranks for McCain. Rather, we disagree with several of his positions and his stubbornness in his position rankles.  Indeed,  I am at odds with him over immigration, Campaign finance, and other smaller matters.

Yet, I find him refreshing compared to the Cook County candidate.

I admire his steadfastness in the Hanoi Hilton. I know myself well enough to know I'd have died there, or been murdered trying to kill a guard.  What kept him alive in Hanoi is both why I'll vote for him and why he often irritates me.
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