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2 Berkeley tree squatters end limb sit in, arrested
« on: June 27, 2008, 08:03:19 PM »
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struggle4progress  (1000+ posts)       Fri Jun-27-08 12:43 AM
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2 Berkeley tree-sitters end protest, arrested
 Source: SF Chronicle

Carolyn Jones, Chronicle Staff Writer
Thursday, June 26, 2008

Two protesters sitting in trees near Cal's Memorial Stadium surrendered their roosts on Wednesday, officials said, leaving seven tree-sitters remaining in the 18-month-long standoff against UC's plans to build an athletic training center ...

Costello was charged with trespassing and violating a judge's order last year that outlawed the protest. Marks was booked for trespassing, violating the court order and an order to stay away from campus.

The development came hours after the Berkeley City Council interrupted its meeting early Wednesday to dispatch two staff members to the embattled oak grove to investigate whether the protesters needed food and water ...

The tree-sitters also told the City Council they need a pound of marijuana ...

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/0...

 

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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts)      Fri Jun-27-08 07:53 AM
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2. "judge's order last year that outlawed the protest"
 This is why I say that the 1st amendment has been dead for a long time. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say you have to ask permission to assemble. If you have to ask permission, it isn't a right- it becomes a privilege.
 

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winter999 (381 posts)      Fri Jun-27-08 08:32 AM
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3. Huh? They were tresspassing. Not their property.

At least someone understands. Must be a mole. :naughty:

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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts)      Fri Jun-27-08 06:01 PM
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10. Why should property rights trump Constitutional rights?
 What's the generally accepted principle behind that? Is there one, or is it just an idea that people who own property think should be true?

Nobody can be that stupid.

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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts)      Fri Jun-27-08 12:24 PM
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6. Okay, no one is being arrested
 on the public sidewalk, but my point remains- if you have to get permission (in the form of permit) then it is no longer a right. In just about every city in the US, you have to apply for a permit to stage a protest. They can say yes or no. I see nothing of permits mentioned in the constitution.
 

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yibbehobba (1000+ posts)       Fri Jun-27-08 01:14 PM
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7. No, your point doesn't remain.
 There's a difference between staging a protest and squatting on private land, which is effectively what they're doing.

I see nothing of permits mentioned in the constitution.

This isn't a constitutional issue. This is a bunch of people who have trespassed on private property for months with relative impunity, who have been asked repeatedly to leave, and who are now being made to leave. You don't have a constitutional right to stage a months-long protest on private property without the landowner's permission. You just don't.

They are engaging in civil disobedience. (Well, I'm not sure I'd call throwing human feces at people civil, but anyway...) Civil disobedience gets you arrested. That's why it's called civil disobedience. And if it were civil disobedience in pursuit of some kind of noble or worthy cause, these folks would have a lot of support. Unfortunately for them, they're idiots.
 

Mole again. :uhsure:

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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts)      Fri Jun-27-08 06:03 PM
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11. Why should property rights trump Constitutional rights? What makes property rights superior?
 What's the underlying principle? *Is* there an underlying principle?

I guess you can be that stupid.
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Re: 2 Berkeley tree squatters end limb sit in, arrested
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2008, 08:40:22 PM »
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No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

The third Amendment to the Constitution pretty much establishes property rights.
It would be nice if primitives someday would do a little research.

Of course in DUmmy think (Kelo) their should not be private ownership of property as that isn`t the Marxist way.
The Constitution that they all wail about being "Shredded" be damned when they don`t like it.
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Re: 2 Berkeley tree squatters end limb sit in, arrested
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2008, 08:44:24 PM »
Trying to understand their reasoning makes my head hurt.  :banghead:
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Re: 2 Berkeley tree squatters end limb sit in, arrested
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2008, 09:06:57 PM »
Just shoot them out of the tree, problem solved... :censored:
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Re: 2 Berkeley tree squatters end limb sit in, arrested
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2008, 09:09:35 PM »
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Two protesters sitting in trees near Cal's Memorial Stadium surrendered their roosts on Wednesday, officials said, leaving seven tree-sitters remaining in the 18-month-long standoff against UC's plans to build an athletic training center ...

Lemme get this .. There were NINE hippies sitting in a tree for 18 months and not one person thought to just light the tree on fire ?

FAIL !

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Re: 2 Berkeley tree squatters end limb sit in, arrested
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2008, 09:21:19 PM »
Quote from: LC EFA on June 27, 2008, 09:09:35 PM
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Two protesters sitting in trees near Cal's Memorial Stadium surrendered their roosts on Wednesday, officials said, leaving seven tree-sitters remaining in the 18-month-long standoff against UC's plans to build an athletic training center ...

Lemme get this .. There were NINE hippies sitting in a tree for 18 months and not one person thought to just light the tree on fire ?

FAIL !



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Re: 2 Berkeley tree squatters end limb sit in, arrested
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2008, 11:39:43 PM »
I bet the DUmmies would understand a little better if I decided that I wanted to exercise my 1st amendment rights in their living rooms for 18 months.
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Re: 2 Berkeley tree squatters end limb sit in, arrested
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2008, 04:57:23 AM »
Quote from: Carl on June 27, 2008, 08:40:22 PM
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No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

The third Amendment to the Constitution pretty much establishes property rights.
It would be nice if primitives someday would do a little research.

Of course in DUmmy think (Kelo) their should not be private ownership of property as that isn`t the Marxist way.
The Constitution that they all wail about being "Shredded" be damned when they don`t like it.

Neighbor, they're smarter than the rest of us!  They don't need to do "research."  :lmao: :rotf: :tongue:
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