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nadin Schools The DUmp On Pharmacology
« on: January 02, 2014, 12:26:09 AM »
When my doctor prescribes a drug, I don't simply start taking it without question.

No! I check out the TV ads. And then I listen to what the DUmpmonkeys think.

How else can I learn whether my doctor knows what he's doing?
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Thu Jan 2, 2014, 12:10 AM
wildbilln864 (10,866 posts)

Al Jazeera TV is airing a show(segment) about Chantix. On now...

And it's effects on the brain and how in some cases suicide is committed by its users.
Dying to Quit"

That's some bad shit!
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When I read about that TV show, I thought, "Wow, I'll bet not even nutcase nadin knew about that!"

I was wrong.
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Thu Jan 2, 2014, 12:11 AM
nadinbrzezinski (128,627 posts)
1. It is a well known side effect

Not new.


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Thu Jan 2, 2014, 12:12 AM
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2. wow, new to me...
Well, DUmmy wildbillnnumbers, she's nadin, and you're not.


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Thu Jan 2, 2014, 12:16 AM
nadinbrzezinski (128,627 posts)
3. Pay attention to the commercial

The possibility of suicide is listed.

It still is the most successful at getting patients off tobacco.

A good clinician will ask the obvious questions on psychiatric history before writing a script, chief concern is a history of moderate to severe depression. And a good clinician will go through the possible side effects of any drug prescribed, not just chiantix[sic].
Worrisome, because I agree with the crazy bald dwarf.

For me, like the vast majority of people who take it, Chantix was a miracle.

I thought it impossible to quit after decades without really serious cravings, but I did.

It was like magic.



Where do you go when you have questions about a health hazard?

I go to the DUmp, and check in with a whackjob like DUmmy sabrinanumber:
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Thu Jan 2, 2014, 12:24 AM
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6. Hilarious, I've watched their ads and wondered if anyone is stupid enough to risk DEATH, yes they

tell you you can die from the effects of Chantix, to stop doing something they have obviously not died from for many years.

'Truth in advertising'. I guess if you die they have accomplished their goal.

The healthiest people I know are smokers, many of them in their eighties by now.

What a scam this all is.

Secondhand smoke is a democrat scam.
Tobacco stats aren't.


Oh, God! I agree with another nutcase post!
This is a real discombobulation.
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Thu Jan 2, 2014, 12:35 AM
nadinbrzezinski (128,627 posts)

It is not a scam. There are people who simply should not take it. But with care it simply works. More people die from a Tylenol overdose (it destroys the liver, nothing you can do to reverse it once it is underway) than Chiantix. Is that a scam too? What I question is some doctors prescribing it as if it was candy.

As my pharmacology prof put it many years ago, all medications are a poison, and all are potentially deadly. Be careful how you use them. He was an old fogey who loved to teach pharmacology to doctors, nurses and paramedics, and started every course with that caveat. Any med can kill.

And cigarettes are so damn harmless this is why dad needed O2 almost constantly the last year of his life. Yup, harmless.
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Re: nadin Schools The DUmp On Pharmacology
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2014, 05:21:31 AM »
Sabrinanumbers is Nad's biggest supporter.   Ouch Nads.

Doctors aren't Pharmacists, so while you may get the Rx from your doctor - ALWAYS ask the pharmacist about the medication before taking it.   

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Re: nadin Schools The DUmp On Pharmacology
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2014, 06:05:21 AM »
wow

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Re: nadin Schools The DUmp On Pharmacology
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2014, 06:46:22 AM »
My boss, an older RPh, says "Show me a drug with no side effects, and I will show you a drug with no effect". 
You see, I don't care you how feel.  I really don't.  More importantly, neither does anyone else.  Only about 200 people on a planet of 7 billion actually care about your feelings, and that's if you're lucky.  The sooner you grasp this lesson, the better off you will be.  And since almost no one gives a damn what you do, say, think, or feel, appealing to your feelings when you encounter differences of opinion is not only illogical, but useless.

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Re: nadin Schools The DUmp On Pharmacology
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2014, 07:59:17 AM »
Sabrinanumbers is Nad's biggest supporter.   Ouch Nads.

Doctors aren't Pharmacists, so while you may get the Rx from your doctor - ALWAYS ask the pharmacist about the medication before taking it.   

Have to look at Nads biggest supporter, is this Sabrina  Nads Captain Nemo ?

Anyway, You are so right about medication and doctors.   They have to take the word of the traveling Drug sellers who at times give a Doctor a commission on how many of their drugs they prescribe.

When it comes down to drugs, the Pharmacists are the first ones to go to when even prescribed an aspirin as it may be contradicted from the medical RX you already take.

For those with a PC, go on line and check out the drug, you have been given.

I am aware that when one gets a drug be it once a month or first time, a lot of paper work comes with it.    Most of the information is gobble gook  to the public, and is written for the professionals or lawyers out there to keep law suites at bay.

The Pharmacists are the ones to tell you in plain English for a 8  grader to understand.

PC doctors are there to diagnose a problem.   When it comes to drugs to cure the problem they head for the PDR.

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Re: nadin Schools The DUmp On Pharmacology
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2014, 08:30:03 AM »
Oh noooos, drugs have side effects?   :panic:

Well it's no secret that most of the primitives are nuts and on some kind of psychotropic drug, whether they get it from their doctor or their dealer.

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Re: nadin Schools The DUmp On Pharmacology
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2014, 10:12:28 AM »
The only real question over at the DUmp is "how with this drug react with Wellbutrin?"
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Re: nadin Schools The DUmp On Pharmacology
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2014, 10:14:32 AM »
My boss, an older RPh, says "Show me a drug with no side effects, and I will show you a drug with no effect". 

I look for drugs with side effects I like the most.
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Re: nadin Schools The DUmp On Pharmacology
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2014, 03:58:49 PM »
I went to a (possibly liberal) doctor once, and he prescribed some medication with possible side effects.

Here was our conversation…

Doc: Based on drug trials and a consultation with nadinbrzezinski, the medication that I’m going to prescribe has a slight chance of side effects. Because of these side effects I need to ask you a few questions.

Flippy: Okay.

Doc: Do you have a riffle?

Flippy: Well, my nose is running just a bit.

Doc: No! No! Not a sniffle. A riffle. You know, bang bang.

Flippy: No. I can’t say that I have a riffle.

Doc: Good. Do you own any firearm with a magazine capacity of over ten rounds?

Flippy: No. Not that I’m aware of. What do these questions have to do with the medication?

Doc: To make sure you can’t hurt yourself or others. Only one more question. Do you own an assault weapon?

Flippy: Hmmm. What is the definition for assault weapon?

Doc: Something that is flat or matte black and is scary looking.

Flippy: Nah. The only thing that I have that is flat black and scary looking is a plastic model hot rod car that I keep from my child hood.

Doc: And you admit it is flat black and scary looking?

Fliippy: Sure is. It’s terrifying. I wasn’t a very good model builder as a child.

Doc: Too bad. Since you own an assault weapon I can’t prescribe this medication. You’ll just have to take a couple of aspirins.

Flippy: But what about my sickness?

Doc: Sorry. Nothing I can do, but look on the bright side. If your sickness proves to be fatal at least you won’t have to suffer through global climate change with the rest of us.
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Re: nadin Schools The DUmp On Pharmacology
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2014, 04:08:09 PM »
I went to a (possibly liberal) doctor once, and he prescribed some medication with possible side effects.

Here was our conversation…

Doc: Based on drug trials and a consultation with nadinbrzezinski, the medication that I’m going to prescribe has a slight chance of side effects. Because of these side effects I need to ask you a few questions.

Flippy: Okay.

Doc: Do you have a riffle?

Flippy: Well, my nose is running just a bit.

Doc: No! No! Not a sniffle. A riffle. You know, bang bang.

Flippy: No. I can’t say that I have a riffle.

Doc: Good. Do you own any firearm with a magazine capacity of over ten rounds?

Flippy: No. Not that I’m aware of. What do these questions have to do with the medication?

Doc: To make sure you can’t hurt yourself or others. Only one more question. Do you own an assault weapon?

Flippy: Hmmm. What is the definition for assault weapon?

Doc: Something that is flat or matte black and is scary looking.

Flippy: Nah. The only thing that I have that is flat black and scary looking is a plastic model hot rod car that I keep from my child hood.

Doc: And you admit it is flat black and scary looking?

Fliippy: Sure is. It’s terrifying. I wasn’t a very good model builder as a child.

Doc: Too bad. Since you own an assault weapon I can’t prescribe this medication. You’ll just have to take a couple of aspirins.

Flippy: But what about my sickness?

Doc: Sorry. Nothing I can do, but look on the bright side. If your sickness proves to be fatal at least you won’t have to suffer through global climate change with the rest of us.


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Re: nadin Schools The DUmp On Pharmacology
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2014, 04:22:29 PM »
Given the listed side effects, seems like a Dummy would be the last person a doc would recommend it to. 

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Re: nadin Schools The DUmp On Pharmacology
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2014, 05:32:19 PM »
I went to a (possibly liberal) doctor once, and he prescribed some medication with possible side effects.

Here was our conversation…

Doc: Based on drug trials and a consultation with nadinbrzezinski, the medication that I’m going to prescribe has a slight chance of side effects. Because of these side effects I need to ask you a few questions.

Flippy: Okay.

Doc: Do you have a riffle?

Flippy: Well, my nose is running just a bit.

Doc: No! No! Not a sniffle. A riffle. You know, bang bang.

Flippy: No. I can’t say that I have a riffle.

Doc: Good. Do you own any firearm with a magazine capacity of over ten rounds?

Flippy: No. Not that I’m aware of. What do these questions have to do with the medication?

Doc: To make sure you can’t hurt yourself or others. Only one more question. Do you own an assault weapon?

Flippy: Hmmm. What is the definition for assault weapon?

Doc: Something that is flat or matte black and is scary looking.

Flippy: Nah. The only thing that I have that is flat black and scary looking is a plastic model hot rod car that I keep from my child hood.

Doc: And you admit it is flat black and scary looking?

Fliippy: Sure is. It’s terrifying. I wasn’t a very good model builder as a child.

Doc: Too bad. Since you own an assault weapon I can’t prescribe this medication. You’ll just have to take a couple of aspirins.

Flippy: But what about my sickness?

Doc: Sorry. Nothing I can do, but look on the bright side. If your sickness proves to be fatal at least you won’t have to suffer through global climate change with the rest of us.



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Re: nadin Schools The DUmp On Pharmacology
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2014, 05:39:58 PM »
I went to a (possibly liberal) doctor once, and he prescribed some medication with possible side effects.

Here was our conversation…

Doc: Based on drug trials and a consultation with nadinbrzezinski, the medication that I’m going to prescribe has a slight chance of side effects. Because of these side effects I need to ask you a few questions.

Flippy: Okay.

Doc: Do you have a riffle?

Flippy: Well, my nose is running just a bit.

Doc: No! No! Not a sniffle. A riffle. You know, bang bang.

Flippy: No. I can’t say that I have a riffle.

Doc: Good. Do you own any firearm with a magazine capacity of over ten rounds?

Flippy: No. Not that I’m aware of. What do these questions have to do with the medication?

Doc: To make sure you can’t hurt yourself or others. Only one more question. Do you own an assault weapon?

Flippy: Hmmm. What is the definition for assault weapon?

Doc: Something that is flat or matte black and is scary looking.

Flippy: Nah. The only thing that I have that is flat black and scary looking is a plastic model hot rod car that I keep from my child hood.

Doc: And you admit it is flat black and scary looking?

Fliippy: Sure is. It’s terrifying. I wasn’t a very good model builder as a child.

Doc: Too bad. Since you own an assault weapon I can’t prescribe this medication. You’ll just have to take a couple of aspirins.

Flippy: But what about my sickness?

Doc: Sorry. Nothing I can do, but look on the bright side. If your sickness proves to be fatal at least you won’t have to suffer through global climate change with the rest of us.


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Re: nadin Schools The DUmp On Pharmacology
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2014, 07:02:45 PM »
As the nutcase says, if a drug has no side effects, then it also has no other effect.

It would be like homeopathic medicine - useless.

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Re: nadin Schools The DUmp On Pharmacology
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2014, 12:08:14 PM »
Even though I know what gNads meant when she typed this, I think it is fair to point out that a trained journo historian might have made it clear that she was talking about supplemental O2

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And cigarettes are so damn harmless this is why dad needed O2 almost constantly the last year of his life. Yup, harmless.

I have found it to be true that ALL of us need O2 pretty much constantly ALL of our lives.
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Re: nadin Schools The DUmp On Pharmacology
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2014, 12:24:57 PM »
Flippy, that was an awesome doctor's visit.
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