http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6413619#6413886Oh my.
Xenocrates (138 posts) Thu Jun-26-08 12:16 PM
Original message
Winning is EVERYTHING
Now that our nominee, Barack Obama, has all but secured the Democrat Ticket, it is TIME for him to move to the center. Everything he says, Everything he does, Everything he supports, Everything he disagrees with.. will be gone over and over by the press and by Grandpa's Old Party.
Obama must appear to the independents and to the disgruntled right that he is moderate or centrist.
Because Winning the Election is Everything.
Rest assured TRUE BELIEVERS, when he takes the oath of office, Obama will return to the Left.
And how's Barry "Goldwater" Obama going to do that?
My, my, what the primitives don't know about politics would fill the universe.
GihrenZabi (321 posts) Thu Jun-26-08 12:18 PM
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1. LOL!
If you truly believe that Obama will return to the Left, you're either delusional or don't know your history.
Obama is going to do whatever gets him elected to his second term during his first term. He's going to attempt to create a broad majority, which means Centrist, not Left.
Face it - Liberalism in America is DEAD. We lost our representation a long, long time ago.
For something that's dead, it seems pretty lively.
cbc5g (882 posts) Thu Jun-26-08 12:20 PM
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4. We're a representative government
And sadly if most of the people in America aren't liberal then you'll never get represented by pushing a really liberal person for President.
asSEENonTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #1
88. poor guy..i feel sorry for you.
atreides1 (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 12:19 PM
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2. Yeah Right
And what was your process in this divination? A crystal ball, reading of goat entrails, a personal note from the Obama campaign?
Please enlighten those of us who have become cynical of such predictions.
Xenocrates (138 posts) Thu Jun-26-08 12:21 PM
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6. Oh ye of little faith
Actually I thought it was a page from Clinton's Playbook..
saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 12:19 PM
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3. I remember when the Democrats condemened other candidates for politcal expediencey and supported Obama because he was "different" and allegedly was being held to a different standard. mHow times change. "Winning is everything" was the DLC Mantra and they were considered the source of all evil.
goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 12:21 PM
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5. You remember that too? Amazing how things have changed
SidneyCarton (118 posts) Thu Jun-26-08 12:30 PM
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16. I seem to remember considerable concern during the primaries that Senator Obama would not be sufficiently cutthroat to win, and for that reason the other major candidate, whose political mettle had been tested "in the trenches" was the better choice for our nominee. Now that he has shown that he can be just as cutthroat as he needs to be, must we criticize him as too cynical?
saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 12:48 PM
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48. It is a bit hypocrtical though isn't it? To sell oneseself as "change" and "above the politcal landscape" and then be supported for being exactly that one is running against?
It's a very large bonfire.
The rich kid the grazing primitive, the wannabe nemesis of the cboy4 primitive, who is not franksolich's mole:
jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 12:51 PM
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56. And by "exactly what one is running against", it couldn't be more literally true
This kind of stuff is why I worked so hard against Hillary Clinton. Obama was supposed to be above this sort of traingulation.
I guess that was only when he was trying to get people to vote in the primary.
saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 12:52 PM
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58. Flp flopping as fast as he can . Now the DC gun ban and his opposition to it was merely "inartful".
bilgewaterbill (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 11:53 PM
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109. You noticed that, too? I understand wanting to win but....
It goes on and on and on, most of it being the rich kid the grazing primitive being a rectal aperture.
BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Jun-27-08 06:01 AM
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111. Hahahahahaha
This whole thread is funny as shit.
