Misfits rejoice Republicans wrong about USPS (Nads has NOT weighed in yet)

[formerlurker]

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 04:50 PM

Star Member malaise (113,268 posts)

So the Post Office Whipped UPS and FedEx in terms of delivering packages for Christmas 2013
So much for trying to destroy the Post Office for the 'privatize goons'.

Delish! I'm lovin' it!!!

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds.
Bravo Post Office Workers!!! We've got your backs!!

Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 04:55 PM

Egalitarian Thug (10,996 posts)
2. They always do. It one of the biggest reasons the parasites want to destroy it.

Like Medicare, it's a (quasi) government program that delivers better results for a fraction of the cost.

http://election.democraticunderground.com/10024232639

Ok misfits.  Let's look at the capacity of each carrier:

USPS officials said their system returned to normal last week, nationally and locally. “[There are] no problems that we are experiencing with the Postal Service,” Boyd said. “Again, we have a tremendous amount of volume, more than 7,000,000 pieces of mail over the last two days.”

UPS admits it has a problem with the storm’s backlog, but confirmed it handled 29,000,000 parcels worldwide on Monday – the most this season. Officials with the company say they plan to keep people and equipment working overtime until the backlog is gone.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/12/18/delivery-woes-leave-customers-worries-about-mailed-christmas-gifts/

7,000,000 over two days.   $29,000,000 on one day alone.

I know you suck at math, but UPS has a much higher capacity for package delivery.   (and let's note that "pieces of mail" and "parcels" can be two different things, mmmmkay?)

Mail:



Parcel:




Kind of curious that Nads hasn't stopped by this thread with pom-poms for her man, the USPS employee.

[thundley4]

Let's not forget that the price of stamps is going up 3 cents on January 26.  It's supposed to be limited to a two year increase, like that will happen.

That being said, we mailed 4 packages through the post office last Tuesday and all got where they were going by Monday.  All were mailed parcel post, the cheapest way.

[GOBUCKS]

I actually think the USPS does an excellent job.

A lot of the parcel service numbers include packages they ship from town-to-town, then contract with USPS to do the door-to-door deliveries.

I just wish there was some way for the post office to stop handling such an enormous quantity of bulk mail below cost.

But as far as swift, reliable delivery and postage costs are concerned, I've no complaint with the US Post Office.

Check out how many first class stamps you use today versus ten years ago.

With online payments and email so convenient today, I've probably cut stamp usage by close to 90%.

[EagleKeeper]

Let's not forget that the price of stamps is going up 3 cents on January 26.  It's supposed to be limited to a two year increase, like that will happen.

That being said, we mailed 4 packages through the post office last Tuesday and all got where they were going by Monday.  All were mailed parcel post, the cheapest way.

Yeah, that's understandable when all you handle is flat rate boxes, Christmas cards, letters, receive/pay bills and receive copious amounts of junk mail.

Lets face it, the USPS is a dying star orbiting the black hole of the federal government and postal worker unions.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I'm not too keen on privatizing the USPS myself, most of its problems are attributable to Congress (Both sides) "Helping" them, and if they could actually freely manage their system and set rates free of Republicans who want to toss them anchors and Democrats who think it's a welfare organization to provide undemanding employment to as many people as possible, it would all work a damn' sight better. 

The big champions of privatization I see on financial networks trumpeting the evils of the USPS, and the value of privatizing it, seem to conceive of life in flyover country as indistinguishable from their own, where they apparently all have to bat bicycle couriers out of the way when they stroll out to the nearby Starbucks down the street (But somewhere within five blocks).  They seem to have no actual idea of the USPS function as a public utility serving the needs of people living in lower population density areas than their own metro megaplexes.  For my own shipping needs, in an admittedly small-scale business, the USPS Priority Mail flat rate shipping is far and away the most economical and convenient choice.

Nadin is an idiot, and anything she says that is right, at least in some limited bottom-line sort of way, is of course the purest coincidence, and I did not intend to imply otherwise in this post.

  

[Charles Henrickson]

Like Medicare, it's a (quasi) government program. . . .

Unlike Medicare--and Social Security, and all the other socialist wealth-redistribution schemes favored by the Democrats--unlike those unconstitutional programs, the Post Office is not a wealth-redistribution program, and it is specifically delegated to the federal government in the Constitution.  So as a constitutional conservative, I have no objection to it.  If people want to get rid of it, then that would require an amendment to the Constitution.

[thundley4]

I'm not too keen on privatizing the USPS myself, most of its problems are attributable to Congress (Both sides) "Helping" them, and if they could actually freely manage their system and set rates free of Republicans who want to toss them anchors and Democrats who think it's a welfare organization to provide undemanding employment to as many people as possible, it would all work a damn' sight better. 

The big champions of privatization I see on financial networks trumpeting the evils of the USPS, and the value of privatizing it, seem to conceive of life in flyover country as indistinguishable from their own, where they apparently all have to bat bicycle couriers out of the way when they stroll out to the nearby Starbucks down the street (But somewhere within five blocks).  They seem to have no actual idea of the USPS function as a public utility serving the needs of people living in lower population density areas than their own metro megaplexes.  For my own shipping needs, in an admittedly small-scale business, the USPS Priority Mail flat rate shipping is far and away the most economical and convenient choice.

Nadin is an idiot, and anything she says that is right, at least in some limited bottom-line sort of way, is of course the purest coincidence, and I did not intend to imply otherwise in this post.

  

They don't think about the people that live on the rural routes where a lot of the mailmen drive their own cars, mostly Jeeps or other 4WD vehicles. On some of those routes, you can still put some change in your mailbox with a letter and the postman will put the stamp on for you.

[ChuckJ]

Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 04:55 PM

Egalitarian Thug (10,996 posts)
2. They always do. It one of the biggest reasons the parasites want to destroy it.

Like Medicare, it's a (quasi) government program that delivers better results for a fraction of the cost

With the bolded is this DUmmie saying that DUers want to do away with the USPS? Or is the DUmmie putting its pure stupidity on display in hopes of competing for next years DOTY?

[EagleKeeper]

The USPS is still functional but only as mentioned here, as a light weight alternative to the truly industrial scale logistic operations and as a sop for Washington.

And it's dying. This simply cannot be denied. (To use a cliche) If something simply cannot continue to exist, it will not. It's getting thrashed and being forced into a smaller and smaller niche.

If what we need is for the USPS to be the pony express that operates at an operational loss into perpetuity then so be it.

[98ZJUSMC]

So the Post Office Whipped UPS and FedEx in terms of delivering packages for Christmas 2013

Of course, you can prove that assertion...right?
 

Egalitarian Thug (10,996 posts)
2. They always do. It one of the biggest reasons the parasites want to destroy it. Heh..... parasites.  Yeah, sure.

Like Medicare, it's a (quasi) government program that delivers better results for a fraction of the cost

People are FORCED onto it.  So, compared to.......?

[98ZJUSMC]

They don't think about the people that live on the rural routes where a lot of the mailmen drive their own cars, mostly Jeeps or other 4WD vehicles. On some of those routes, you can still put some change in your mailbox with a letter and the postman will put the stamp on for you.

Absolutely.  Done that for years and they make change   .  They usually have books of stamps on hand and will deliver through the box, also.  Just leave the latest amount in an orange envelope

[EagleKeeper]

(quasi) government program

Serious question, does anybody even know what that means?

[GOBUCKS]

They don't think about the people that live on the rural routes where a lot of the mailmen drive their own cars, mostly Jeeps or other 4WD vehicles. On some of those routes, you can still put some change in your mailbox with a letter and the postman will put the stamp on for you.

We do that all the time here in suburban red state hell.

We even put small packages in the box with excess money for the postage, and he'll bring change the next day.

[GOBUCKS]

You can always count on nadin for a kerfunkle.

Response to Stargazer09 (Reply #27)Thu Dec 26, 2013, 08:04 PM
JimDandy (3,348 posts)
94. USPS was delivering on Sunday because packages were already days late

by the second week in December.

Response to JimDandy (Reply #94)Thu Dec 26, 2013, 08:20 PM
nadinbrzezinski (128,518 posts)
105. Nope, they were delivering under contract for Amazon

By the way I get it, you had issues with USPS, about 1% of mail has issues, far higher with the two private contractors. But if you feel this way, use UPS next year.

Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #105)Thu Dec 26, 2013, 08:25 PM
JimDandy (3,348 posts)
108. Nope, the postal worker apologized for being days late

and said they were delivering on Sunday to catch up. My package was from BestBuy.com and none of the other priority packages my family received late through USPS were from Amazon either.

ETA: We will still use USPS because family members worked for them over the years. They just have to do a better job, just like UPS and FedEx do.

Response to JimDandy (Reply #108)Thu Dec 26, 2013, 08:33 PM
nadinbrzezinski (128,518 posts)
110. Well, given that my husband currently works at the plant

and worked over time, and no, they were not delivering for anything but Amazon Prime. Mind you if I take this with a large boulder of this stuff.

Not a grain mind you, a large piece of it.

Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #110)Thu Dec 26, 2013, 08:49 PM
JimDandy (3,348 posts)
114. Wow - Well, you don't get to practically call me a liar and then not be put on ignore...

Would have sent you a photo for proof, but really not interested, after such an unnecessarily abrasive encounter, so... buh by.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #114)Thu Dec 26, 2013, 08:57 PM
nadinbrzezinski (128,518 posts)
116. And I will do you the courtesy none of these folks who

I have put on ignore, I will mutually ignore you too.

[EagleKeeper]

Ya know, one of the things that I love about DUmmies?

They put everybody on ignore.

I have a theory, if you throw everybody on the iggy list, what voices do you hear?

I'll give the DUmmies half of a clue...the voices you want to hear and not, perhaps, the voices you need to hear.

[I_B_Perky]

I recall reading in our local rag some years ago, around 98 or 99 I think it was, that UPS, Fed Ex, and the USPS, all used each other during the holidays. Each had their strong points. The USPS though had the best distribution system in the US at the time and the other two used them extensively during the holidays.

Dunno about now.

The USPS is in the US Constitution though. Currently, they got the worst of both worlds. They are not federally funded, operating as a "private enterprise", but they have to obey the federal government mandates.

My opinion:

Either put them back totally under the government or let them be private.

Personally, I think the USPS does a good job. At least around here. The doggies will let the post office guy in the yard. The UPS and Fed Ex guy, not so much.

[delilahmused]

They don't think about the people that live on the rural routes where a lot of the mailmen drive their own cars, mostly Jeeps or other 4WD vehicles. On some of those routes, you can still put some change in your mailbox with a letter and the postman will put the stamp on for you.

Yeah, my post office will even call to see if I'm home when they have a package to deliver. They never get it to my son on base (they don't even have to deliver door-to-door). There's even UPS on base. I can have things delivered there but they charge him. Post office gets it right every single time.

Cindie

[obumazombie]

The USPS isn't totally inefficient, because it's not totally government dependent. But if you compare it to any other postal service in any other country, it outperforms them all. It's not a real high bar, but it's a claim to fame.

[diesel driver]

I recall reading in our local rag some years ago, around 98 or 99 I think it was, that UPS, Fed Ex, and the USPS, all used each other during the holidays. Each had their strong points. The USPS though had the best distribution system in the US at the time and the other two used them extensively during the holidays.

Dunno about now.

The USPS is in the US Constitution though. Currently, they got the worst of both worlds. They are not federally funded, operating as a "private enterprise", but they have to obey the federal government mandates.

My opinion:

Either put them back totally under the government or let them be private.

Personally, I think the USPS does a good job. At least around here. The doggies will let the post office guy in the yard. The UPS and Fed Ex guy, not so much.

That's because we usually carry doggie treats (along with mace) with us.  It's amazing how a $2.00 bag of treats will change a dog's attitude toward a person.

Kinda how an EBT card changes a person's attitude toward a politician.   

[I_B_Perky]

That's because we usually carry doggie treats (along with mace) with us.  It's amazing how a $2.00 bag of treats will change a dog's attitude toward a person.

Well that explains it, DD. You give my doggies a treat and they are your friend for life. That and the same guy has delivered the mail for the last 10 years.   

[formerlurker]

The mailman is there daily.  The UPS guy shows up in a large truck periodically at best. Dogs would get to know the daily guy.

I received all of my packages before Christmas (and they were a combination of all three carriers, and one order I did the Sunday before Christmas - that was delivered by FedEx on Tuesday morning).  

No worries.  I guess the problems were largely dependent  on the region you lived in and the seller (Amazon, Walmart, Best Buy etc.) making promises that their delivery carrier did not have capacity for (and I doubt they checked to ensure they had the capacity).

I think a lot of folks ordered online this year as shopping in brick/mortar buildings is a level of stress that no one needs, and online sellers were offering great deals, free shipping over a certain $ amount, and most importantly that hard to find item in stores was available online in some cases.

I live in a rural farm town.   When the weather is bad we don't get mail delivery.   If there is ANY snow in front of my mailbox the driver will not deliver (there are zero foot deliveries here -- all in mail jeeps). The USPS is not what it used to be that is for sure.  That said, I do like our mail person (she) even though she smokes and my mail stinks of smoke when I get it.   She is a total sweetie otherwise.