PissWasser posts a thread from MMFA trying to claim Fox is misogynist because a scientific study asserts that households with a male bread-winner tends to produce more successful and happier families. This means men must be the dominant one.
How "breadwinner" equates to "dominant" is beyond me, but nobody ever accused Proglodytes of making sense.
No refutation of the science, merely reporting the findings is misogyny.
So much for science unfettered by ideological bias.
Anyhoo...
PissWasser makes his post and no sooner has he hit the button than the Ku Klux Klams are burning penises in his front yard.
Pretzel_Warrior (5,977 posts)
You wanna see misogyny?! This is misogyny. DU internecine wars notwithstanding
http://mediamatters.org/research/2013/12/26/know-your-role-and-shut-your-mouth-how-conserva/197372
But why stick to the OP when you can light the cooz fuse?
redqueen (104,211 posts)
1. Do you also define racism for people of color?
Just curious.
Pretzel_Warrior (5,977 posts)
2. Just providing a link. Enjoy or don't. It is your choice.
msongs (32,460 posts)
7. are you interrupting terminal uniqueness lol nt
Methinks the feminists will be shown the door (or kitchen) soon, as was the gay mafia.
The pwning of all pwnings to RedQueef happens now...
The Straight Story (45,676 posts)
3. I dunno, do people define what men are thinking when they look at a woman?
Possibly.
And then RedQueef's toadie joins the fray:
seabeyond (91,089 posts)
8. Know role or shut up. And we hear some of this from some men yet
You are telling us to shut up. Not address with the some here, but we need to address with the some there. Do you not see how funny that is? I do. You have me laughing, I smiling anyway, in urgent care
What?
NaturalHigh (5,795 posts)
79. "Know role or shut up"
Where has anyone on this board ever said that to you? Link? Sounds like? Rhymes with?
Who told you to shut up? Point it out. Please.
I call BS, SB.
seabeyond (91,089 posts)
84. the OP. quit missing with du, loook at fox. but, fox is doing what is happening on the board.
hush... talk about fox
no
Pretzel_Warrior (5,977 posts)
89. again. creative reading. no one told you to shut up.
least of all me.
seabeyond (91,089 posts)
92. you said focus on fox, not du. it is happening on du. yet... you repeat
focus on fox. and dismisses what happens on du
did you literally tell me to shut up? no
did you tell us to quit focusing on du and look at the REAL issuse (like here is a fake issue) on fox?
personally, i thought it just funny. you do not? fine
boston bean (18,687 posts)
12. Ok, let's break this down some.
Seems as though you are trying to say that what feminists point out here on DU is NEVER misogyny, but what we see at the link is.
Well, I can tell you that many of the same arguments Rush et al is making have been posted here on DU.
1)I understand the reality that some moms are single moms not by their choice. And I understand that some women believe they can have it all, and that's the crux of the problem. I have to tell you, as a man, where women are told that men have so many more advantages in society, we can't have it all. Women, you can't have it all either. Life is a series of compromises and choices.
- Constantly we are reminded here on DU that issues that concern women, aren't really issues, they are choices and men have it just as bad.
[Have children or a career. It's not society's job to give you both free of charge. --Sgt SB]
2) When you look at biology, look at the natural world, the roles of a male and female in society, and the other animals, the male typically is the dominant role. The female, it's not antithesis, or it's not competing, it's a complementary role. We as people in a smart society have lost the ability to have complimentary relationships in nuclear families, and it's tearing us apart.
- Constantly we are told our issues stem not from a culture, but from biology and these problems ought just be accepted cause that is the way it is... nature/biology dictates it.
[Isn't that what you "people" say about homosexuality? -- Sgt SB]
3) WSJ's Taranto: "Female Sexual Freedom" Has Led To A "War On Men." James Taranto, editor of The Wall Street Journal's editorial page, accused "female sexual freedom" of causing a "war on men" during the June 18 edition of WSJ Live's Opinion Journal Live.
- Constantly we are reminded that our very presence as feminist a WAR on MEN on DU.
[Show me where you scrunts ever made peace -- or gave a piece -- Sgt SB]
4) furthersRush Limbaugh: Feminism Is Rooted In "Sexual Perversion." On the August 27 edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show, host Limbaugh said that feminism "is based in what most people would classify as sexual perversion," later characterizing feminist leadership as "enraged" and "angry."
- Constantly feminists on DU are reminded that it is the way, the tone, that causes all this strife on DU, that we are ANGRY, that we are damaged goods.
[Prove 'em wrong. -- Sgt SB]
5) Fox Business Host: "Is There Something About The Female Brain That Is A Deterrent" To Women Being Tech Executives? On the November 18 edition of Fox Business' Varney & Co, host Stuart Varney wondered, "Is there something about the female brain that is a deterrent for getting on board with tech?"
- Just try discussing issue with women entering the tech field, and see what happens. Point out the sexism within it and well, you better get your flame suit on.
[Sorry you weren't pretty enough to marry rich -- Sgt SB]
6) Fox's John Stossel: Women Are Paid Less Than Men Because Women "Have Their Priorities In Order." On Fox & Friends on August 8, Fox Business' John Stossel and co-host Steve Doocy discussed the gender pay gap. While admitting that women are in fact paid 77 cents for each dollar men make, Stossel claimed that the discrepancy is because "we don't work the same jobs." Stossel went on to say "women have their priorities in order. They often choose jobs that are less time-consuming, not so far away, and not as dangerous." He concluded that if a true pay gap existed, the market would have sorted it out.
- Hear it all the time, men do the tough, dangerous jobs and it's the feminists fault.
[Men are 90% of work place fatalities. When will the feminists step-up to demand more equality? -- Sgt SB]
7) Fox Host Steve Doocy: "So That Is A Myth, That Men Get Paid More Than Women." During the same Fox & Friends segment, Doocy asked Stossel if the differences between boys and girls are so clear, "why are the feminists still pushing gender equality?" After Stossel argued that there is no true gender pay gap because women work "less time-consuming" jobs, Doocy agreed saying, "So that is a myth, that men get paid more than women."
- As those in the mens group how they feel about this. They feel it isn't true either.
[Feel free to offer a refutation. -- Sgt SB]
8) Limbaugh: Men Should Avoid Sexual Harassment Accusation By Asking Women "Will You Please Ask Your Breasts To Stop Staring At My Eyes?" On his radio show, Rush Limbaugh offered his "suggestion" to avoid being accused of sexual harassment: "You walk up to the woman and say, 'Will you please ask your breasts to stop staring at my eyes?'"
- Right here on DU it was suggested women ought to wear burqua's if they don't want the harassment men give them on the street.
[Feminists claim men are horrid bastards that can't help themselves but then demand help themselves by not staring at boobs in a low-cut V-neck. Which is it? -- Sgt SB]
9) Limbaugh Cracks Up At Notion Of Marital Rape. Rush Limbaugh took material for his November 26 radio program from "satire" blog Diversity Chronicles, choking down laughter while reading a post that mocked the notion of marital rape and explaining, "this is a website that does satire on how white men are blamed for everything."
- Many times we get to hear how just how bad the men have it, when discussing feminist issues. Negating positive feminist discussion and how feminism actually does address issues for men as well.
[Feminists are allowed to offer an opinion; men? Not so much. Your complaint proves their accusation. -- Sgt SB]
10) WSJ's Taranto Says Of Alleged Domestic Assault: George Zimmerman Simply "Guilty Of Being Male." After George Zimmerman allegedly threatened his estranged wife withviolence, James Taranto tweeted that Zimmerman was "guilty of being male"
- I don't know about you but I've seen a bunch of comment when serious discussion of feminist issues are being discussed and you get the pat response of "guilty of being male".
[Pat accusation earns pat response. -- Sgt SB]
We've heard it all hear before as well. If you don't believe, truly you haven't been paying attention. Is every scenario the same as listed above, no, but the responses and behavior and actions of some here, match the same responses you get from those misogynists you recognize in Limbaugh, Erickson, Stossel, etc.
Pretzel_Warrior (5,977 posts)
14. I'll be honest. I'm not going to read through your long "fisking" of my Media Matters article
where you point by point attempt to show how DU is JUST AS BAD AS FOXNEWS re: misogyny. You've clearly missed the point. Just like seabyond, you want to see what isn't there.
When all you've got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Admit it, PissWasser...
You were treated better here.
boston bean (18,687 posts)
15. ignore, deflect, deny. It's all been said and done here, and feminists when pointing it
out have been crucified.
But hey, if you didn't see them, they didn't happen, right...
The beating continues at length. He eventually abandoned his own thread.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024231483
