So happy the surgery went well.
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 08:33 PM
MrScorpio (57,906 posts)
I'm a man...
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And there's very little that I can say to women about the effect of manliness on their everyday lives. Women experience it from sun up to sun down.
But I can say to some of the guys out there, who are feeling as if their own manliness is being impugned upon by mere women who deign to speak up and say that the effect of manliness on their own lives can be problematic…
Shut the **** up.
Gawd, I hate that kind of whining.
Especially when it comes from people, whom by the mere fact that they were born a certain way, this bullshit that their privileged status doesn't cause problems.
In case the whiners out there haven't figured this out yet, your privileged status is like the air surrounding everyone. It's everywhere. Yet, that doesn't make it right.
I have absolutely no idea why it's a problem when women reject the practice of strange men who treat them like unclaimed property. Someone explain that shit to me, in English, if you don't mind.
Now, I want to point out a couple of things… Most women like guys and many of them don't mind if men talk to them. But, there is a right way to do that and there's a wrong way.
However, that does not mean that strange men should stare women down, like some hungry wolf stalking a fluffy bunny, or that men should clumsily and openly make rude and loud sexual proposals on the street.
Now, I need to point out the main problem here… Most men are not as skilled in communication as women. A lot of guys are really bad at it. And most women, especially the ones that like guys, are just sick and tired of dealing with bad communicators, especially when they come off as creepy and potentially threatening. But most of all, most women don't feel as if the intrinsically privileged position of men should be enough to compensate for the lack of male communication skills.
The solution to this problem comes in three mind-bogglingly simple steps:
- Men should talk to women as if they're human beings and not unclaimed sexual objects. Get your talk game straight.
- Next resign yourself to the fact that women, for whatever reason they choose, have the absolute right to reject men who make bad, unwanted, awkward and potentially threatening approaches… And there's nothing that the guy can do about it. Or just because women feel like it, those guys lose, simple as that.
- There's a big diff between looking at a woman who just happens to be out in public, and when some guy is ogling them like they're a plate of steak and fries. Figure out that difference, if you're a gawd-damned adult.
Lastly, to all the whiners out there, wake the **** up and look around you. Someone is trying to explain how the world really is FOR THEM, and that whining is preventing that from getting through. The other part of "shut the **** up," is "listen, gawd-dammit." Whining is not very sexy at all.
Now, who want's to be sexy, non-threatening and not-lazily depending on their position of privilege kind of guy?
Anyone?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024220427And the dry spell for Lamont continues. He still hasn't been able to bed anyone from the flannel-shirts-'n'-trucker-wallet brigade at DU, despite all his obsequious sniffing around them.
Scuba (33,082 posts)
3. Considering the way so many men treat women, it's a wonder they'll have anything to do with us.
Hopefully empathetic communications like your post make up for some of our dumbass brethern. Thanks MrScorpio.
Oh, you're so
sweet.
elocs (18,585 posts)
19. Just so I know ahead of time, are there any other areas that people, or specifically one gender
should shut the **** up about? There really should be a list or something.
I find it ironic that on a site that purports to support the values of being Democratic that anyone should be told to shut the **** up when expressing what they believe. But then maybe we need a list for that as well, to inform us about what we should believe and how we should believe it so we don't make the mistake of posting when we need to shut the **** up.
You're the liberal. Shouldn't you already know the list? It get reiterated over and over at the Hive.
YoungDemCA (1,687 posts)
23. If what they believe is hateful sexist bullshit, then yeah, they should shut the **** up
You have the right to free speech. And others have the right to call you on it if that speech is hateful speech.
The problem is, to you asshole liberals
everything you disagree with is "hateful speech".
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 09:47 PM
ryan_cats (1,003 posts)
70. I'm a man and a troglodyte.
I'm a man and a troglodyte.
I used to check out chicks on the sly. I don't leer at them and now that I have been married for many years, I don't look over chicks that much.
My wife saw this thread and was shocked at the sheer angst of the women who were complaining about this.
I worked for a woman and had some on another team and to hear her and her friends talk about men they'd seen was disturbing and they treated these men exactly how the perpetually offended whine about it here.
My wife says that the perpetually offended women need to grow thinker skin. This B.S about lumping a sly gaze into rape is hyperbole and it indicative of a lazy mind.
You all deny it but if a woman dresses in a tight top that exposes everything on her breasts but the nipple is deliberately doing this to get a reaction, spare me the whining about how they have a right to dress this way, they do but don't whine when men check you out.
That one chick with the tramp stamp boldly showing it, she deserves all the attention she gets.
I refuse to lose any sleep over the perpetually offended. Grow some thicker skin and accept your roll in this if you dress like a champ.
And might I add that perhaps some of these women are not getting this attention and that makes them mad also, a Catch 22
MrScorpio (57,906 posts)
76. Well, I guess you're going out to last minute shop for burkhas this holiday, if you haven't already
Anyway, in spite of how women dress, you and I both know that such a thing is not a carte blanche for some asshole to be an asshole.
Also, how would a woman KNOW that the man leering at them is not a potential rapist?
Why should a woman have fear for her well being when she's out in public, no matter what she's wearing? Because it really doesn't matter what a woman is wearing whenever some predator has her in his sights.
"Chicks…" I kind of saw that coming up front.
Aaaaaaand there's the Burkha Card.
ryan_cats (1,003 posts)
77. Project much?
Project much? This is less about feminism than shouting down opponents who don't buy into your B.S.
Welcome to Liberalism 101.
Skittles (91,143 posts)
72. SPOKEN BY A REAL MAN!!!
yes INDEED
Anyone want to bet that Skittles is a tatooed little Janeane Garofalo clone who's never even been with a real man?
