http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3513173Oh my.
Now, really, it's not anything anyone wishes to happen, but none of us has any control over others, only ourselves.
reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-24-08 04:25 PM
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Poll question: How many of you have tried to kill yourselves?
We have had several posts recently dealing with suicide attempts. I was very depressed when I became a teenager in the 90's and realized that the USA was a dog eat dog **** you I got mine society where helping others is viewed as being weak. I tried to off myself 2 times, once with pills and booze and once I tried to cut my wrist open at work an make it look like an accident so my parents could get money (I missed the vein by less than a centimeter).
I am better now because, as someone said in another thread, I will fight the bastards ruining the USA and the world until I die by means other than suicide. I know this poll is a bummer but I was wondering the percentage of folks here who have tried suicide at least once. Feel free to share your reasons as I am curious to know what pushes us to try. Peace and I hope that any of you contemplating suicide now can find some kind of solace other than death.
Poll result (229 votes)
Yes, I tried to kill myself before (64 votes, 28%)
I contemplated suicide but never tried (100 votes, 44%)
I never contemplated nor tried suicide (65 votes, 28%)
Now, if the primitives answered the survey truthfully, 72% of them thinking about self-destruction, that pretty much appears accurate. Among decent and civilized people of course, 72% would be extraordinarily high, and one doubts it's even a tenth of that.
Hate makes people self-destructive.
It's a very large bonfire on Skins's island.
reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-24-08 04:35 PM
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4. good question
On purpose I guess, but doing "stupid" things like blindly running across four land roads because you just don't care if you live or die could be considered an attempt of suicide I guess.
Agreed. Emphatically.
The chronically unemployable Perry Como primitive:
Perragrande (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 03:24 AM
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94. Especially Christian sermons.
Telling you you are worthless and sinful because you are breathing and alive. It's called original sin -- a made up problem with a made up solution -- substitutionary atonement. A huge scam.
OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-24-08 04:53 PM
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16. Yes...
Due to being put on anti-depressants for chronic pain purposes.
While those drugs may be a godsend for some......they don't mix with me.
quantessd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 03:34 AM
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97. I have had a horrible experience with anti-depressant, Effexor-XR.
Anyone considering taking Effexor had better realize they will be having nightmarish withdrawal symptoms for at least a month, and that's the best situation even if you withdraw the dosage gradually.
sfexpat2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-24-08 05:05 PM
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23. No one should be surprised at the results of this poll.
We have the best mental health tech in the world and it doesn't get delivered.
Hell, even if this poll were only for *caretakers* of people who suffer mental illness, the % would be high.
The Perry Como primitive again:
Perragrande (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-24-08 05:27 PM
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30. What if your family is telling you you are worthless?
My elderly, cranky, grumpy, impossible to deal with and senile parents were telling me what a horrible person I was because I couldn't find a job. This went on for years. They said "Well we paid for that expensive education of yours. We don't know why you can't find a job.". I said "I don't know either after 3 degrees and 12 years of college". The economy was going to hell in the 90s.
The more jobs I applied for the more I got depressed. If I had temp jobs, I got fired for showing initiative and intelligence, or they would make up some totally irrational bullshit excuse.
They could have easily helped me out but refused. I found this out after investigating their bank accounts after they died. I asked them if they would rather pay for my funeral, or help me pay my bills. I told them that if I killed myself, then I would stop hassling them about my finances. They said they didn't want to pay for a funeral. I really don't know what they expected me to do. They also said I didn't need a car, and they had one they weren't driving--they were too blind to do so. But they wouldn't let me use it -- where mass transit is nonexistent.
I remember calling them up crying because the dogs were infested with fleas and had blood poisoning, and I couldn't afford to take them to the vet. They wouldn't give me money to treat the dogs. I knew that if the dogs died I would never forgive myself. Fortunately I gave them my own medication to cure them.
The Perry Como primitive sings again:
Perragrande (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-25-08 01:43 PM
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92. It's part of the big lie society told us.
Society said, "Work hard, get a good education, and you'll get a good job that pays well, and be successful.".
So what did I do? Worked hard, earned three degrees, including a doctorate in law, and spent 12 years in college. My parents paid for that bachelor's and paid for some of the doctorate, because they went to college and believed in education. We got into the middle class because my dad went to law school at night on the G.I. Bill after World War II, and got a 4% VA loan for a house.
The B.A. and the J.D. I got were both from those elite private schools. You know, the ones where everybody who goes there has connections, and can get a nice cushy job??? Well, I didn't have the connections. None of my multimillionaire acquaintances from law school, who were pulling in over a million dollars a year just as a partner in a law firm, could lift a finger to give me a job as a paralegal. So that was a waste of effort.
As far as improving my job prospects or my income, it was a sad, pathetic lie. A total farce.
My parents believed it and it caused them to accuse me of being a failure. When it wasn't my fault.
Cruel. It caused me to waste years of time, money and effort earning those pieces of paper. Because I thought they were worth something to an employer. And society's attitude blamed me, not their bright shining lie of the worth of a college education. SOciety has eliminated the good middle class jobs, and still pushes the idea that all those people without jobs need to "go back to school and get more skills".
Bullshit.
Perragrande (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-24-08 06:41 PM
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46. It's a symptom of the general verbal abuse and humiliation that is rampant today.
We have TV shows based on humiliation and judgment by authority figures such as "American Idol" (fairly mild), Much more harsh are "Survivor", "Hell's Kitchen" and "The Apprentice".
Why anyone finds entertainment in severe competition and humiliation and degradation (eating worms) of the losers is beyond me.
Bullying in school and at work are rampant and encouraged as part of good management practices. Bosses smile and call it "constructive criticism" when it's doublespeak.
And mental health services are a joke.
Michael Moore documented the disintegration of Flint due to 30,000 layoffs at the Buick plant in "Roger and Me" many years ago.
classicfilmfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 07:40 AM
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104. I think about it every *******ed day
After 45 years of life I'm at the point of saying, "Jesus ****, is this all there is?" Nothing to look forward to except working for shitheads, paying bills that just keep going up and my wages don't, dealing with angry people and getting old and sick. About the only reason I'm still here is because I worry about what would happen to my cat if something happened to me.
