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NEW YORK –  Police confirm that a Metro-North passenger train has derailed in the Bronx.

A woman at the scene says numerous emergency vehicles have responded. Rebecca Schwartz says some of the trains are submerged in water.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/01/metro-north-passenger-train-derails-in-nyc-leaving-some-cars-in-water/
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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2013, 08:08:36 AM »
There's no cars in the water--that report was corrected.  RT and CNN have overheads of the crash site.  One of the cars is hanging over the water, but it isn't in the water.  CNN is also saying that there's two fatalities.
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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2013, 08:30:24 AM »
Has anyone blamed Bush yet ? If not, I would like to beat owebuma to the punch.
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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2013, 08:31:17 AM »
Now being reported - four fatalities.
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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2013, 08:47:02 AM »
This wouldn't happen if we had high speed rail(DUmmie)...........it would be a lot worse(reality).
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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2013, 10:10:36 AM »
This wouldn't happen if we had high speed rail(DUmmie)...........it would be a lot worse(reality).

Yeah--there'd be cars in the water, among other things.

Three of the four dead were found outside of the train, one inside.  
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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2013, 10:37:44 AM »
Latest tally, four dead and 63 injured.

« Last Edit: December 01, 2013, 11:00:34 AM by marv »
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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2013, 11:18:03 AM »
Has the cause of derailment been mentioned yet?


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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2013, 12:45:03 PM »
One passenger said that the train seemed to be going faster than usual.
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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2013, 01:33:37 PM »
Has the cause of derailment been mentioned yet?



In one of the stories I read, there seemed to be an issue with some track maintenance being possibly deferred.
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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2013, 01:38:40 PM »
This is the line on the east side of the river we take to the city. My son does on a regular basis. I on the other hand often have lunch along the tracks with a river view in various towns along the line and I'm here to tell you these trains haul ass! I would say 65-70 MPH average.  
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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2013, 03:12:57 PM »
Has the cause of derailment been mentioned yet?



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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2013, 03:16:17 PM »
It would also seem that there's been problems along that same stretch of track recently . . .

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/01/21704990-train-derailment-latest-in-string-of-problems-for-metro-north-this-year?lite
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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2013, 09:07:43 PM »
Gotta be scary for those passengers.  :o :(
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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2013, 02:41:59 PM »
Bloomberg in Bermuda During Derailment
http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2013/12/02/bloomberg-in-bermuda-during-derailment/

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Mayor Michael Bloomberg was in Bermuda on Sunday when a train derailed in the Bronx, the most recent time that the mayor has been out of town when a major incident in New York City occurred, a person familiar with the matter said.

Mr. Bloomberg, who steps down on Dec. 31 after 12 years at City Hall, was playing golf Sunday at Bermuda’s majestic Mid Ocean golf club, a person who spotted the mayor said. The Metro-North Railroad train derailment — killing four people and injuring more than 60 others — occurred at roughly 7:20 a.m.  New York time.

Mr. Bloomberg was golfing in the early morning and did not leave the course until roughly 1 p.m, the person said. Bermuda is one hour ahead of New York time.
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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2013, 04:35:37 PM »
And now, the NTSB has found out this little tidbit . . .

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YONKERS, N.Y. — A commuter train that derailed over the weekend, killing four passengers, was hurtling at 82 mph as it entered a 30 mph curve, a federal investigator said Monday. But whether the wreck was the result of human error or brake trouble was unclear, he said.

Asked why the train was going so fast, National Transportation Safety Board member Earl Weener said: “That’s the question we need to answer.”

He would not disclose what the engineer operating the train had told investigators. Weener said investigators were examining the engineer’s cellphone — apparently to determine whether he was distracted.

Weener said the information on the locomotive’s speed was preliminary and extracted from the Metro-North train’s two data recorders, taken from the wreckage after the Sunday morning accident in the Bronx.

He said the throttle went to idle six seconds before the derailed train came to a complete stop — “very late in the game” for a train going that fast — and the brakes were fully engaged five seconds before the train stopped.

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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2013, 04:41:15 PM »
82 in a 30 would just about do it. That goes for all but the most high performance automobiles as well. There must be a physics law at work here !
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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2013, 04:44:46 PM »
Someone's gonna pay big for this.
Don't worry, the union will cover for him.

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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2013, 11:04:05 PM »
Don't worry, the union will cover for him.

I wish I wasn't joking.

The engineer will say he does not know nothing, see nothing or hear nothing. Kinda like Obummer and Hitlery... or the union lawyers will tell him to take the 5th. 

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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2013, 11:34:07 PM »
The engineer will say he does not know nothing, see nothing or hear nothing. Kinda like Obummer and Hitlery... or the union lawyers will tell him to take the 5th. 

I'm sure if he hasn't already he will soon be taking the whiz quiz to determine if he already had the fifth - or anything else for that matter.
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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2013, 11:39:03 PM »
The engineer will say he does not know nothing, see nothing or hear nothing. Kinda like Obummer and Hitlery... or the union lawyers will tell him to take the 5th. 
"What difference does it make?"

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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2013, 09:33:51 AM »
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NTSB kicks train union out of crash investigation

The NTSB said it has booted the rail union from its investigation into the weekend's deadly train derailment for violating confidentiality rules.

The agency made the announcement late Tuesday night, hours after a union representative told CNN that the train engineer apparently "was nodding off and caught himself too late" before the accident.

In its announcement, the NTSB specifically cited those comments as the violation.
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Re: Metro-North passenger train derails in NYC, leaving some cars in water
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2013, 11:58:17 AM »
CNN

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Those unions would of compromised the investigation. Anyways, screw them.
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