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Proglodytes "race" to defend violence
« on: November 24, 2013, 07:11:26 AM »
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Terrifying 'knockout' game assaults spreading
   
 http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/22/justice/knockout-game-teen-assaults/

Williams, a professor of psychology and education at Drexel University in Philadelphia, said some young people are desperate for attention. He called it the "Miley Cyrus effect," where teens will do anything to get noticed, no matter how heinous or unconscionable.

"These kids know the consequences," he said. "They want to get arrested. They want to get caught, because they want that notoriety. They know they won't go away forever because they're kids. It's a win-win all around for them."

In New York, police noted seven "knockout" incidents this fall alone. Some of the incidents were allegedly directed specifically at Jewish people and thus classified as hate crimes, said police spokesman Sgt. Brendan Ryan.

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Egalitarian Thug (10,324 posts)

3. Terrifying, really? Who here is terrified of this? If you step out your door you are taking a
 
bigger risk than this idiocy.

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givememorenow (13 posts)

8. We had (6) of these attacks in my small city in the last couple of weeks

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Cali_Democrat (18,028 posts)

9. Link?

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12. http://www.nhregister.com/general-news/20131121/knockout-game-hits-new-haven-six-allegedly-attacked

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TeeYiYi (5,289 posts)

22. Why are you being so callously dismissive?...
 
...You got your link, so now what?

TYY

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Cali_Democrat (18,028 posts)

25. Note that those alleged attacks can't be definitely attributed to the

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"knockout game epidemic"

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TeeYiYi (5,289 posts)

26. All six attacks noted at the link you requested...
 
...are being attributed to the knockout game.

http://www.nhregister.com/general-news/20131121/knockout-game-hits-new-haven-six-allegedly-attacked

TYY

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27. Attributed by whom?

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33. The police department...
 
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Hsieh had likely become a victim of the Knockout Game, a new disturbing trend during which youth attempt to knock out an unsuspecting victim with one punch.

Hsieh isn’t the only reported victim in the city; there have been at least five others between Monday and Tuesday.

Five other reports came from the Hill South police district, said Lt. Joe Witkowski, district manager. The attacks occurred on Monday and Tuesday in the vicinity of Union Station and Church Street South.

TYY

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Cali_Democrat (18,028 posts)

35. "had likely become?"

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That's not hard evidence. I see no hard evidence that these alleged assaults were because of the "knockout game". These are simply statements from the alleged victims.

I could easily say that these alleged victims of the "knockout game" said something or did something to provoke getting hit. Of course I have no evidence. Statements from alleged victims are nothing more than that.

See how that works?

I want to see hard numbers and hard evidence that this is an epidemic spreading across the country.

Up to this point, I have not seen it.

This article also calls this a "disturbing trend", but they provide no hard facts of this so-called distrubing trend.

Sorry.

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46. You're dismissing Lt. Witkowski AND the Police Chief of New Haven? Okey dokey. Whatever.
 
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The attacks appear random and there is no attempt at robbery afterward, Witkowski said. The pattern has been that a group of males approached the intended victim, one person attempts to strike and then the whole group quickly flees.

Witkowski said there are some leads on the perpetrators in the Hill.

The assaults have been gaining attention in many cities on the East Coast, including New York City, St. Louis Washington, and Jersey City, N.J.. Some of attacks are captured on cell phone or surveillance video and are posted to social media websites.

A 46-year-old man was killed after he was sucker-punched and his head hit an iron fence in Jersey City, according to the Associated Press.

The assaults won’t be tolerated in New Haven, said Police Chief Dean Esserman.

“We need to crush this immediately,” he said at the weekly police CompStat meeting Thursday.

TYY

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49. There's something called a court of law. Cops are basing this on statements from

the alleged victims.

A poster down thread said this has been going on for years. I want hard numbers then.

So far, nobody has been able to provide me with those numbers.

Sorry.



BTW: Cali_Democrat is one of the strongest anti-gun advocates they have over there. Apparently you have less of a right to defend yourself from these thugs. The thugs, OTOH, get every benefit of the doubt, nuance and parsed statement possible.

Everything you need to know about Proglodyte "justice."


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52. "Of course I have no evidence." Gee... trend here? Nah.

Love the way you call 'em "alleged victims" as though they weren't simply walking down the sidewalk and then woke up after getting cracked upside the head. Oops, allegedly getting cracked upside the head.

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65. If the "knockout game" were being done by tea party teens you wouldn't be dismissing it.
 
If tea party teens were the "alleged" perps, you would be posting every story printed, and the DU threads would be filled.
But because it is being done by minority thugs, then we better tread lightly? Screw that, this must end, and being aware of the situation in some cities will only help.
There were 6 incidents in the New Haven area last week, that tells me that if you are walking alone, be alert!


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14. The right is making it about black on white crime. Don't read comments on any news sites
 
articles discussing unless you have enough bleach at home to properly cleanse afterwards.

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15. Of course they are
 
The right is racist and very predictable.


IOW: Violence is acceptable so long as the proper people perpetrate it and the wrong people protest.

Proglodyte "justice"


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57. The reality is that most of it is black on white.

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Not left, not right, but reality.

It is usually young black males ("teens") preying upon white men and women, may times elderly white men and women. Sometimes the victims are Hispanic or Aisian, but usually they are white. The attackers/murderers in every report I've read or vid I have seen have been black.

That is the reality.

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17. Remember the killer bees which made their way from South America?

They were supposed to kill everybody once they crossed the Mexican border.

Once the media salivates over a story, it's like a runaway freight train. Especially if racists like drudge get into it in order to advance their agenda.

Did people die from killer bees? Yes. Have people been punched randomly? Sure.

But the notion this is some epidemic and we should all be terrified is utterly laughable.

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21. Lets see some hard facts Skip....

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1) how many assaults can we definitively attribute to this game? And I mean by a court of law.

2) after getting those numbers, how many were actually unprovoked?

3) after getting those numbers, how many have been killed and the killer convicted and the DA attributes it to the game?

Thank you in advance.

BTW, I knew this story would stimulate you.

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The Straight Story (45,544 posts)

24. Ban fists. That is surely the cause

Without them, no one would be hitting anyone.

We know, from past discussions on other things, that this must be what is making this happen

heh

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58. Let's see if we have all the bases covered...

Animalistic black youths.... Check!

Innocent, unsuspecting, white victims.... Check!

Accusations of random violence that can't be avoided.... Check!

Several "news" organizations trumpeting an epidemic.... Check!

Yep, looks like we've got everything we need in order to stir up some good old fashioned racial hatred and fear of "the blacks." Be afraid people! Be very afraid!

I wonder why none of these "news" operations ever talks about an "epidemic" of white on black violence when Aryan Nations punks go on a rampage or some cop wannabe mows down a child trying to defend himself with a pack of skittles. For some reason those are always 'isolated incidences.'

I live in the Detroit area and my local news channels have been telling me to be afraid of scary black people since I was a toddler. I didn't buy it then and I don't buy it now. Have black youths randomly attacked white people? Sure, but the hidden truth is that there is a subset of youths in every race and culture who do stupid violent shit (remember playing chicken?) but the vast majority of black people, like white people, like red people and brown and yellow people, don't do stupid violent shit.

So it's our own choice. We can do as one poster upthread suggests and arm ourselves to the teeth on the 0.00001% chance that a scary dark skinned person might throw a punch at us, or we can stop living in fear from the comfort of our gated communities.

I've managed pretty well working and socializing in the scary, dark, city for the last 25 years by arming myself with respect instead of bullets.

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Re: Proglodytes "race" to defend violence
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2013, 07:30:41 AM »
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #49)Sun Nov 24, 2013, 02:53 AM
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54. The police department in New Haven...

...has determined that the evidence behind six recent assaults fits the definition of the 'knockout game'.

But you, internet keyboard warrior, aren't buying it. Maybe you should request the police reports from the New Haven police department so that you can get to the bottom of it. Please proceed, detective Cali.

TYY


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Re: Proglodytes "race" to defend violence
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2013, 07:34:54 AM »
The cali-DUmb doesn't like Skippy at all.
Pulls the same stunt all Primitives do when faced with reality.  Demand more proof, then demand the proof be proven. Repeat as needed.
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Re: Proglodytes "race" to defend violence
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2013, 07:43:10 AM »
Cali_Democrat would be fun to play the knock-out game with.

And then turn her over to the killer bees.



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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2013, 08:07:43 AM »
Starts out with an OP about the rising violence (nobody dares whisper Black on White crime), then there is this:

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8. We had (6) of these attacks in my small city in the last couple of weeks

Low post number. Obvious troll. Time for the GESTAPO to leap into action:
 
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Cali_Democrat (18,028 posts)
9. Link?

Oooo... almost as many posts as several of my moles!

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givememorenow (13 posts)
12. http://www.nhregister.com/general-news/20131121/knockout-game-hits-new-haven-six-allegedly-attacked

Notice the headline title.

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Cali_Democrat (18,028 posts)
25. Note that those alleged attacks can't be definitely attributed to the

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"knockout game epidemic"

Did you read the article? All six were attributed to teh knockout game!

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Cali_Democrat (18,028 posts)
27. Attributed by whom?

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TeeYiYi (5,289 posts)
33. The police department...

Hsieh had likely become a victim of the Knockout Game, a new disturbing trend during which youth attempt to knock out an unsuspecting victim with one punch.

Hsieh isn’t the only reported victim in the city; there have been at least five others between Monday and Tuesday.

Five other reports came from the Hill South police district, said Lt. Joe Witkowski, district manager. The attacks occurred on Monday and Tuesday in the vicinity of Union Station and Church Street South.


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Cali_Democrat (18,028 posts)
35. "had likely become?"

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That's not hard evidence. I see no hard evidence that these alleged assaults were because of the "knockout game". These are simply statements from the alleged victims.

I could easily say that these alleged victims of the "knockout game" said something or did something to provoke getting hit. Of course I have no evidence. Statements from alleged victims are nothing more than that.

See how that works?

I want to see hard numbers and hard evidence that this is an epidemic spreading across the country.

Up to this point, I have not seen it.

This article also calls this a "disturbing trend", but they provide no hard facts of this so-called distrubing trend.

Sorry.

 
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Cali_Democrat (18,028 posts)
49. There's something called a court of law. Cops are basing this on statements from

the alleged victims.

A poster down thread said this has been going on for years. I want hard numbers then.

So far, nobody has been able to provide me with those numbers.

Sorry


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TeeYiYi (5,289 posts)
54. The police department in New Haven...

...has determined that the evidence behind six recent assaults fits the definition of the 'knockout game'.

But you, internet keyboard warrior, aren't buying it. Maybe you should request the police reports from the New Haven police department so that you can get to the bottom of it. Please proceed, detective Cali.

TYY


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65. If the "knockout game" were being done by tea party teens you wouldn't be dismissing it.

If tea party teens were the "alleged" perps, you would be posting every story printed, and the DU threads would be filled.
But because it is being done by minority thugs, then we better tread lightly? Screw that, this must end, and being aware of the situation in some cities will only help.
There were 6 incidents in the New Haven area last week, that tells me that if you are walking alone, be alert!

Ooo....be careful. You will be called a racist.

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7. I was walking outside today

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and I wasn't terrified of being knocked out by some kids.

How many thousands of people has this knockout game affected?

Is this an epidemic?

Should we all be frightened and afraid to walk outside?

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14. The right is making it about black on white crime. Don't read comments on any news sites

articles discussing unless you have enough bleach at home to properly cleanse afterwards.

That's because it is a bunch of black kids beating up on white people...

 
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Cali_Democrat (18,028 posts)
15. Of course they are

The right is racist and very predictable.

 :rotf:

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Cali_Democrat (18,028 posts)
17. Remember the killer bees which made their way from South America?

They were supposed to kill everybody once they crossed the Mexican border.

Once the media salivates over a story, it's like a runaway freight train. Especially if racists like drudge get into it in order to advance their agenda.

Did people die from killer bees? Yes. Have people been punched randomly? Sure.

But the notion this is some epidemic and we should all be terrified is utterly laughable.

 
We have either found the Iraqi Army spokesperson from 2003 or the presidental press secretary from 2013's DU account.

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21. Lets see some hard facts Skip....

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1) how many assaults can we definitively attribute to this game? And I mean by a court of law.

2) after getting those numbers, how many were actually unprovoked?

3) after getting those numbers, how many have been killed and the killer convicted and the DA attributes it to the game?

Thank you in advance.

BTW, I knew this story would stimulate you.


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58. Let's see if we have all the bases covered...

Animalistic black youths.... Check!

Innocent, unsuspecting, white victims.... Check!

Accusations of random violence that can't be avoided.... Check!

Several "news" organizations trumpeting an epidemic.... Check!

Yep, looks like we've got everything we need in order to stir up some good old fashioned racial hatred and fear of "the blacks." Be afraid people! Be very afraid!

I wonder why none of these "news" operations ever talks about an "epidemic" of white on black violence when Aryan Nations punks go on a rampage or some cop wannabe mows down a child trying to defend himself with a pack of skittles. For some reason those are always 'isolated incidences.'

I live in the Detroit area and my local news channels have been telling me to be afraid of scary black people since I was a toddler. I didn't buy it then and I don't buy it now. Have black youths randomly attacked white people? Sure, but the hidden truth is that there is a subset of youths in every race and culture who do stupid violent shit (remember playing chicken?) but the vast majority of black people, like white people, like red people and brown and yellow people, don't do stupid violent shit.

So it's our own choice. We can do as one poster upthread suggests and arm ourselves to the teeth on the 0.00001% chance that a scary dark skinned person might throw a punch at us, or we can stop living in fear from the comfort of our gated communities.

I've managed pretty well working and socializing in the scary, dark, city for the last 25 years by arming myself with respect instead of bullets.

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62. I'd guess the first report was on September 23, 1862.

The day after the final Emancipation Proclamation. The problem with keeping another human captive is that once the chains are removed you fear the consequences of your actions.

In other words, this idiocy is merely fear fueled by guilt. 151 years of fear and guilt

 
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Re: The knockout game. -Doesn't exist sayeth the DUmp.
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2013, 08:21:42 AM »
I just can`t imagine being that demented.  :mental:

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Re: The knockout game. -Doesn't exist sayeth the DUmp.
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2013, 08:40:49 AM »
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Re: Proglodytes "race" to defend violence
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2013, 08:49:16 AM »
Typical DU response by Cali_Dem, it's against the rules for calling a crime for what it is. If an action doesn't fit the liberal narrative then spin the facts, question the sources, abase the victims and make excuses for the perpetrators.  In this case libs must jump through as many hoops as necessary in order to avoid the obvious conclusion that there is an element of race involved. It may not be a hatred for whites, it may simply be that whites, particularly old men and women are easy targets. It doesn't make it a hate crime but it still would be a racially motivated crime.
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Re: The knockout game. -Doesn't exist sayeth the DUmp.
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2013, 08:57:36 AM »
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62. I'd guess the first report was on September 23, 1862.

The day after the final Emancipation Proclamation. The problem with keeping another human captive is that once the chains are removed you fear the consequences of your actions.

In other words, this idiocy is merely fear fueled by guilt. 151 years of fear and guilt

What is this guilt the poster speaks of? I have never held any one captive and what my ancestors may have done has no bearing on what I feel or think.

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Re: The knockout game. -Doesn't exist sayeth the DUmp.
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2013, 09:10:47 AM »
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2013, 09:11:27 AM »
Wonder if Cali knows that "in the court" of law it will be defined as Assault not "knock out game" so what numbers does she want?  Cupid Stunt.
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Re: Proglodytes "race" to defend violence
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2013, 09:24:12 AM »
Statistics from the Obama Regime DOJ under Commissar Holder prove that it is over 14 times more likely that a black will murder a white than a white will murder a black.

Does the DUchebag cali want to be a racist and challenge these two blacks?
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Re: Proglodytes "race" to defend violence
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2013, 09:47:28 AM »
Statistics from the Obama Regime DOJ under Commissar Holder prove that it is over 14 times more likely that a black will murder a white than a white will murder a black.

Does the DUchebag cali want to be a racist and challenge these two blacks?
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Re: Re: Proglodytes "race" to defend violence
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2013, 10:05:05 AM »
Was cali this eager to let the"court of law" determine the guilt or innocence of a certain white Hispanic's fate after St.trayvon attempted to play his version of the knock out game on Zimmerman?
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Re: Re: Proglodytes "race" to defend violence
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2013, 10:27:59 AM »
Was cali this eager to let the"court of law" determine the guilt or innocence of a certain white Hispanic's fate after St.trayvon attempted to play his version of the knock out game on Zimmerman?

Ol’ Cali_Democrat. The perfect example of a hypocritical DUer. The question that is going around among the other fictional spirit-guides is if she knows how hypocritical that she is or is she too completely stupid to know. Right now most of the fictional spirit-guides have their money on the latter.

Right now, no matter what the evidence says, Cali just can’t believe that those little black angels would viciously assault someone.  Regardless of the evidence they are innocent until a court of law proves them guilty (and probably not even then).

Of course, when a hispanic guy claimed he had to use force to defend himself Cali was not nearly so ready to follow the innocent until proven guilty line.

Cali's hypocrisy has become so widely known in fictional spirit-guide circles that her name is used in reports as shorthand for hypocrisy.

Below is just one clip (note the time posted is long BEFORE any trial). You can click this link and wallow in a lot more of Cali’s hypocrisy. link to hypocrisy.


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5. Sure...it might be "awful" if Zimmy still had that phone number.

But you know what's even more awful? Stalking, following, and gunning down an unarmed kid carrying skittles and an iced.
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Re: Proglodytes "race" to defend violence
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2013, 11:26:03 AM »
Who is Cali?  I mean I know she's a DU nut, but does she live in San Fran?
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Re: Proglodytes "race" to defend violence
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2013, 12:24:28 PM »
I wonder if Cali would refer to rape victims as "alleged" and suggest they provoked the attack?

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Re: Proglodytes "race" to defend violence
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2013, 12:25:53 PM »
A lot of the victims of this 'game' have been blacks.
I believe the victim who put 2 .40 S&Ws into one of the 'players', was black.
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Re: Proglodytes "race" to defend violence
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2013, 12:37:30 PM »
If a couple of gays or a couple of blacks got "knocked out" it would be an epidemic wouldn't be Cali?
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Re: Proglodytes "race" to defend violence
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2013, 12:50:54 PM »
I was just looking at that thread and it seems as though givememorenow has been banned.

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Re: Proglodytes "race" to defend violence
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2013, 12:51:25 PM »
If a couple of gays or a couple of blacks got "knocked out" it would be an epidemic wouldn't be Cali?

Not an epidemic, a holocaust.
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Re: Proglodytes "race" to defend violence
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2013, 01:01:04 PM »
I wonder if Cali would refer to rape victims as "alleged" and suggest they provoked the attack?

Only if the fundie slut whore alledged victim was melanin deficient. I'm sure Cali is still searching high and low to find that eee-vil 1-percenter white bastard  who raped Tawana Brawley with his Klan robes on, because the facts are obvious in that case. :whatever:
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Re: Proglodytes "race" to defend violence
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2013, 02:19:48 PM »
The DUmpmonkie who brought out the truth for cali to debate has indeed been tombstoned. There must be NO QUESTIONING on the Holy DUmp fact and truths!



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Re: Proglodytes "race" to defend violence
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2013, 02:28:20 PM »
God, DUmiies are so stupid.  :mental:
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Re: Proglodytes "race" to defend violence
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2013, 04:01:07 PM »
Same subject, different thread.

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8. A lot of the blame is from (read should be placed on) the media.

Entertainment media, mostly.

I know it sounds cliched, but it is true.

Just watch the average fight scene in a movie or TV show.

A person gets knocked flat on their ass, out cold, they get up in the next scene, no problem.
Nothing new either.

I see this in the 60's TV westerns my Mom loves to watch.

Than at the bottom of Archae's post there's this gem:

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"...People voting republican, give them a boot to the head!"

Guess that proves that point.   :tumbleweed:
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