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Offline landofconfusion80

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Willy brings a very intellectual argument
« on: November 13, 2013, 07:03:14 AM »
Willy opens a very deep discussion

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WillyT (49,841 posts)

Tax... The... ****ing... Rich.... We've Had OUR Turn With Austerity...

Now... It's THEIR Turn...
Not really sure what austerity he's having to deal with. Maybe mom forgot to pick up some pizza rolls at the grocery and he's hungry?

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4. They can leave

their shit stays here.
Don't think it'll all fit in your basement. Besides, don't the rich survive on consuming the tears of the poor or some such thing? They couldn't leave..

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truebluegreen (3,708 posts)

11. Big. Whoop.


90% top marginal rate sounds about right. Given that we need to pay off war debt and all.
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hunter (17,685 posts)

16. That would be a good start...

... and we also need to change the financial rules so the very wealthy can't spin their money around in schemes that do not create good jobs or benefit society in any way.

Yea, those Roth IRA's and stocks are quite the malicious trick, aren't they?
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20. absolute bullshit. the cave is unspeakably vile.

I don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

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Re: Willy brings a very intellectual argument
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2013, 07:47:44 AM »
As per usual, they are full of K&R's and +1,000,000's.  Only one DUmmie speaks any sense:

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Star Member Nye Bevan (13,243 posts)

15. Name any Congressman or Senator who has advocated for this. Just one.

Most of them are either already very wealthy (Nancy Pelosi and Alan Grayson, for example) or are anticipating big fat salaries when they become lobbyists or bankers after leaving Congress. Do you really think that these people would vote to impoverish themselves to that degree?

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Re: Willy brings a very intellectual argument
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2013, 08:15:10 AM »
As per usual, they are full of K&R's and +1,000,000's.  Only one DUmmie speaks any sense:

At least one DUmmie knows that democrat politicians are cheap bastards.
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Re: Willy brings a very intellectual argument
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2013, 08:15:44 AM »
An illustration of the fundamental difference between Democrats and Republicans.  They waste their energy envying those who have more, while we focus on maximizing our own income potential.  

The first step in fixing our country's debt problem is to stop making more debt, not tapping into a limited source of new income.  Those with the skills to create income for themselves won't have a problem leaving if it gets too bad here.  

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Re: Willy brings a very intellectual argument
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2013, 08:17:08 AM »
Do these retards know "the rich" is a term that means absolutely NOTHING?  ANYONE can be "rich" if you set the bar low enough.

But the top 10 percent of incomes (over $110K AGI) pay over 70 percent of the taxes, DUmmies.  Think about that.  $110K.  Ain't that much, is it?
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Re: Willy brings a very intellectual argument
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2013, 08:25:45 AM »
Do these retards know "the rich" is a term that means absolutely NOTHING?  ANYONE can be "rich" if you set the bar low enough.

But the top 10 percent of incomes (over $110K AGI) pay over 70 percent of the taxes, DUmmies.  Think about that.  $110K.  Ain't that much, is it?
To a DUmmie, it's a fortune.....CHEAT-TOES and POT forever.
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Re: Willy brings a very intellectual argument
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2013, 08:33:08 AM »
As per usual, they are full of K&R's and +1,000,000's.  Only one DUmmie speaks any sense:


And of course they use their favorite retort when confronted with the truth:

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27. That's the problem.

Not just the votes, but the idea that higher taxes will "impoverish" them. Good job buying into that.
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Re: Willy brings a very intellectual argument
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2013, 08:42:26 AM »
As if the Government hasn't but all killed the incentive to work in this country lets take all the money from the people who actually are still trying to make something of their lives and building jobs for others.
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Re: Willy brings a very intellectual argument
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2013, 09:25:38 AM »
An illustration of the fundamental difference between Democrats and Republicans.  They waste their energy envying those who have more, while we focus on maximizing our own income potential.  

The first step in fixing our country's debt problem is to stop making more debt, not tapping into a limited source of new income.  Those with the skills to create income for themselves won't have a problem leaving if it gets too bad here.  

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Re: Willy brings a very intellectual argument
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2013, 09:35:22 AM »
To the DUmmy who wants to banish the rich but keep all their stuff, Hitler did that to the Jews, he would let them leave, but only after he made them pay taxes for the next year, and left a majority of their assets
I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Re: Willy brings a very intellectual argument
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2013, 09:54:17 AM »
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Tax... The... ****ing... Rich.... We've Had OUR Turn With Austerity...

Now... It's THEIR Turn...

Ummmm, DUmbass, I know cogent thought really isn't your forte, so I'll try to be as simple with this as possible:  Throwing tax payer money that has not yet been made (ie on credit) into the air as a "stimulus" measure is as far from "austerity" as one can possibly get.

Also, if you come for the gold, don't be surprised when you get the lead...
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Re: Willy brings a very intellectual argument
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2013, 12:27:49 PM »
Let's return to the tax rates of the 1950's.  Let everyone have some skin in the game.


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Re: Willy brings a very intellectual argument
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2013, 12:55:06 PM »
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Tina Turner to relinquish U.S. citizenship

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Xithras (13,934 posts)

7. We've been seeing a lot of this lately.

Recent changes in our tax and banking laws have made life very difficult for American expats. Most of them are being forced to make a choice between returning to America or just giving up citizenship. For those who have lived overseas for many years, it's often easier to just sever American citizenship.

My brother in law has lived in Vancouver for 15 years, holds Canadian citizenship, and has already started the process of giving up his U.S. citizenship. My wifes father, who bought property in New Zealand over 30 years ago and recently started the process of relocating there full time, is planning on doing the same.

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13. Especially so for someone of her income.

No sense getting nailed with U.S. income taxes when you live in another country, and you never intend to live in the U.S. again or use U.S. services.

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20. I'm sure that is 99% of the reason

Those new tax laws follow you around the globe. We're the only country in the world that forces you to pay taxes to when you live abroad. It's disgusting really. Only the first 100k or or so is exempt.

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9. not my problem

to quote Jefferson "But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." .....Her choice has nothing to do with me, my family, my tax bill, and the United States Of America..." Go with your God Tina" I got a LOTTA more relevant to me/mine to deal/think/weep issues over then Tina Turners' choice....have a wonderful happy life tina, thanks for the music.

But the evil rich steal from you because they're rich!

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29. She doesn't have to fund the war machine with her taxes anymore.
 
Good for her if she doesn't plan to live here anymore.

Remember all those Proglodytes criticizing Mitt Romney for not funding the war machine.


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Re: Willy brings a very intellectual argument
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2013, 01:26:02 PM »
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20. I'm sure that is 99% of the reason

Those new Obama tax laws follow you around the globe. We're the only country in the world that forces you to pay taxes to when you live abroad. It's disgusting really. Only the first 100k or or so is exempt.

Fixed it for the DUmmie, but they may be a mole.

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Re: Willy brings a very intellectual argument
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2013, 01:39:10 PM »
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16. That would be a good start...

... and we also need to change the financial rules so the very wealthy can't spin their money around in schemes that do not create good jobs or benefit society in any way.


So Dummie, how do you feel about Al Gore and his partner David Blood, a big campaign bundler for Obama, being 27% invested in Healthcare?  Al Gore is making a killing on the laws that you liberals want passed. 









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Re: Willy brings a very intellectual argument
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2013, 02:05:17 PM »
Those DUmmies are killing the goose that laid the golden eggs. What happens when the money runs out for all the handouts?
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Re: Willy brings a very intellectual argument
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2013, 02:42:14 PM »
Those DUmmies are killing the goose that laid the golden eggs. What happens when the money runs out for all the handouts?

Simple, we just raise taxes again.
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Re: Willy brings a very intellectual argument
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2013, 08:45:33 AM »
Simple, we just raise taxes again.

...and print more Benjamins.
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