The only thing DUmpmonkiez hate more than the TEA party is Ralph Nader.
NYC_SKP (54,604 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/1269163
"The Dynastic Hillary Bandwagon: Bad for America"
A voice from outside the MSM:
Published on Saturday, November 9, 2013 by Common Dreams
The Dynastic Hillary Bandwagon: Bad for America
by Ralph Nader
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DonCoquixote (6,685 posts)
3. I am the first person to hate Nader
I was in Florida in 2000, and I had to endure weeks of talk radio where people not only confessed they used the greens to cut Gore's throat, they documented it so that they can try this again.
That being said, Nader is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT RIGHT HERE. If Hillary was the great left hope people want her to be, she has had ample, ample chances to do it. Hell, if she were to come out and say she would do simple things, like repair Glass-Steagall, CUT the military, and tell BIBI netanyahu to stop the West Bank settlements (which is BIBI's big raised middle finger to the peace accords the Clintons themselves did) then i would cheer for her, but she has not, she will not, and instead, she makes cute little jokes about "we came, we saw, he died" about gadaffi being killed.
Again, since I have to answer this question, ala a loyalty oath, yes, if she WINS the primary, I will vote for her. However, the fact that so many candidates have been ignored or run out shows a real problem Demcorats have. In 2004, the clintons were silent when Kerry was being swift boated, that was because Hillary wanted 2008. Now, we have no Young Turks, save maybe Booker and Castro, and they are in the mold of Clinton. If we crown Hillary, we might as well say that we have no interest in any generation after the Boomers, which means we will have to spend crucial years fighting off the Rubios, Haleys, and other young wolves that can and will be back for another whack at things. We will also ignore OWS, which contrary to the myths beind sold everywhere, even here on DU, the OWS generation is the one that will win the fight, because they have the anger needed to fight. If the democrats roll out the unwelcome mat, then the energy OWS has will be bled off into several little movements, which will make the Koch brothers pleased, because it will mean that we once again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, and the oligarchs have another 20 years to complete their destruction of civilization.
Walk away (5,016 posts)
4. Ralph Nader was a really good product safety advocate....
and then he helped hand the country to the republicans along with his "oh so progressive that I don't care what happens as long as I make my point" supporters.
This man's past accomplishments can't erase his unrelenting destructiveness and self promotion.
No one is stopping anyone from running against Mrs Clinton. If her competitors can't raise campaign funds now, how are they going to run against Chris Christie?
NYC_SKP (54,604 posts)
7. If she wanted to try, I think Liz Warren could have a good shot at winning the primary.
So, while I agree with your assessment that the corporatists are in control, we could have a shot at a more progressive candidate, were one to step up.
