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primitives discuss health care in Venezuela
« on: November 06, 2013, 04:10:08 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023988801

Oh my.

Now, where are the Yugoistas when one needs them?

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Bacchus4.0 (2,756 posts)    Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:33 AM

Doctors Say Venezuela's Health Care in Collapse

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/doctors-venezuelas-health-care-collapse-20798932
 
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Driving the crisis in health care are the same forces that have left Venezuelans scrambling to find toilet paper, milk and automobile parts. Economists blame government mismanagement and currency controls set by the late President Hugo Chavez for inflation pushing 50 percent annually. The government controls the dollars needed to buy medical supplies and has simply not made enough available.
 
Doctors not allied with the government say many patients began dying from easily treatable illnesses when Venezuela's downward economic slide accelerated after Chavez's death from cancer in March. Doctors say it's impossible to know how many have died, and the government doesn't keep such numbers, just as it hasn't published health statistics since 2010.
 
Almost everything needed to mend and heal is in critically short supply: needles, syringes and paraffin used in biopsies to diagnose cancer; drugs to treat it; operating room equipment; X-ray film and imaging paper; blood and the reagents needed so it can be used for transfusions.
 
Last month, the government suspended organ donations and transplants. At least 70 percent of radiotherapy machines, precisely what Gonzalez will need once her tumor is removed, are now inoperable in a country with 19,000 cancer patients — meaning fewer than 5,000 can be treated, said Dr. Douglas Natera, president of the Venezuelan Medical Federation.

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Nuclear Unicorn (9,329 posts)    Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:35 AM

1. Maybe they just need a better website. We can recommend someone.

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Bacchus4.0 (2,756 posts)    Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:40 AM

2. or a better government

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DetlefK (1,868 posts)    Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:44 AM

4. Reminds me of communist Romania 1989.

Shortage after shortage, even though the country had huge amounts of precious metals and oil it could export.
 
I tiny protest about the eviction of a pastor grew into huge protests against the regime because people were simply fed up with it. And the regime miscalculated: They thought they could calm the unrest with money.
 
I have the feeling that Maduro will loose the good-will of the venezulean people in a way that money and supplies can't mend.

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Bacchus4.0 (2,756 posts)    Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:48 AM

5. I think there will be some sort of autocoup in the near future

Another chavista will take power. They will not willingly allow a non-chavista to become president.

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DetlefK (1,868 posts)    Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:58 AM

7. Maduro a scape-goat?

I don't remember: Wasn't he handpicked by Santa Chavez as his successor?

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Bacchus4.0 (2,756 posts)    Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:03 AM

9. yes, of course. Someone who Cuba can easily control.

However, if the situation worsens much, and it looks bad, Maduro may "resign". Diosdado Cabello who heads the parliament is likely to take over. He is a military guy like Chavez who also participated with Chavez in the 92 coup.

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snooper2 (18,519 posts)    Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:02 AM

8. But But But, Viva la Chavez!!!

LOL,

not working out so good eh?

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Bacchus4.0 (2,756 posts)   Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:05 AM

10. yep, this is Chavismo

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NoOneMan (3,451 posts)    Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:00 AM

11. He clearly can't rule competently from the grave

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Bacchus4.0 (2,756 posts)    Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:14 AM

12. They are his policies in place and Maduro will not deviate from them

Maduro will not undo any of Chavez's policies and programs no matter how detrimental. Calling himself the son of Chavez and wearing a track suit, he still pretends that he is channeling Chavez. No matter the consequences of those horrible polices as this article demonstrates.

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Cali_Democrat (17,822 posts)   Wed Nov 6, 2013, 04:59 PM

13. This is Obama's fault somehow.

It sure is, somehow.
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Re: primitives discuss health care in Venezuela
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2013, 04:13:15 PM »
Poor stupid Beth is really most sincerely gone when she doesn't post on a thread like this.
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Re: primitives discuss health care in Venezuela
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2013, 04:13:36 PM »
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Doctors Say Venezuela's Health Care in Collapse

http://abcnews.go.com/Int...th-care-collapse-20798932
 
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Driving the crisis in health care are the same forces that have left Venezuelans scrambling to find toilet paper, milk and automobile parts. Economists blame government mismanagement and currency controls set by the late President Hugo Chavez for inflation pushing 50 percent annually. The government controls the dollars needed to buy medical supplies and has simply not made enough available.
 
Doctors not allied with the government say many patients began dying from easily treatable illnesses when Venezuela's downward economic slide accelerated after Chavez's death from cancer in March. Doctors say it's impossible to know how many have died, and the government doesn't keep such numbers, just as it hasn't published health statistics since 2010.
 
Almost everything needed to mend and heal is in critically short supply: needles, syringes and paraffin used in biopsies to diagnose cancer; drugs to treat it; operating room equipment; X-ray film and imaging paper; blood and the reagents needed so it can be used for transfusions.
 
Last month, the government suspended organ donations and transplants. At least 70 percent of radiotherapy machines, precisely what Gonzalez will need once her tumor is removed, are now inoperable in a country with 19,000 cancer patients — meaning fewer than 5,000 can be treated, said Dr. Douglas Natera, president of the Venezuelan Medical Federation.

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Re: primitives discuss health care in Venezuela
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2013, 04:13:53 PM »
I was wondering how long it would take a DUmmie to post this nugget from Drudge's site.
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Re: primitives discuss health care in Venezuela
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2013, 04:27:38 PM »
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Doctors not allied with the government say many patients began dying from easily treatable illnesses when Venezuela's downward economic slide accelerated after Chavez's death from cancer in March. Doctors say it's impossible to know how many have died, and the government doesn't keep such numbers, just as it hasn't published health statistics since 2010.

No, it has just became more clear to the world since he died how his failing policies were ****ing everything up.

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1. Maybe they just need a better website. We can recommend someone.

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Bacchus4.0 (2,756 posts)    Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:40 AM

2. or a better government

Can't believe they are backing of Venezuela now.  Thought it was the greatest ****ing thing since sliced bread a couple years ago?
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Re: primitives discuss health care in Venezuela
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2013, 04:30:36 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on November 06, 2013, 04:13:15 PM
Poor stupid Beth is really most sincerely gone when she doesn't post on a thread like this.

Yeah.

It's the difference between night and day, the Venezuela campfires of yore, and the current ones.

But surely there's at least one Yugo apologist left on Skins's island.
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Re: primitives discuss health care in Venezuela
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2013, 04:32:55 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on November 06, 2013, 04:30:36 PM
Yeah.

It's the difference between night and day, the Venezuela campfires of yore, and the current ones.

But surely there's at least one Yugo apologist left on Skins's island.

There are a bunch of them. Judi Lynn is the biggest Venezwhora, but she picks her battles. When she's losing, she tells people they need to learn about the area first and report back.
Meanwhile I assume she lives in the US in a palace somewhere.
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Re: primitives discuss health care in Venezuela
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2013, 04:34:50 PM »
Quote from: Maxiest on November 06, 2013, 04:27:38 PM
No, it has just became more clear to the world since he died how his failing policies were ****ing everything up.

Can't believe they are backing of Venezuela now.  Thought it was the greatest ****ing thing since sliced bread a couple years ago?


If they can back off one crazed socialist, why can't they see the 0 for what he is?
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Re: primitives discuss health care in Venezuela
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2013, 05:19:27 PM »
Quote from: Purple Sage on November 06, 2013, 04:34:50 PM
If they can back off one crazed socialist, why can't they see the 0 for what he is?

Honestly?  Because they are so short sighted and determined to get their way.  They really can't see past a few days.  This is why the are horrible when it comes to economics.
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Re: primitives discuss health care in Venezuela
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2013, 05:28:02 PM »
This has got to be Bu$h's fault, somehow....... :???:
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Re: primitives discuss health care in Venezuela
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2013, 06:13:56 PM »
Quote from: Wineslob on November 06, 2013, 05:28:02 PM
This has got to be Bu$h's fault, somehow....... :???:
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Re: primitives discuss health care in Venezuela
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2013, 06:24:54 PM »
Quote from: Purple Sage on November 06, 2013, 04:34:50 PM
If they can back off one crazed socialist, why can't they see the 0 for what he is?


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Barry: Look Fred, let me…uh…give you some proof. First let me ask you a question. Are you responsible for the economy being in the crapper?

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Re: primitives discuss health care in Venezuela
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2013, 06:30:34 PM »
Hmmm, reminds me of the Soviet Union. When the truth finally came out they were an empty shell. The wizard's Green Curtain of Oz fell, and everything was exposed.

Start with the OP and replace "Venezuela" with "Amerika". Then replace "Chavez" with "Obama". That should do it!
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Re: primitives discuss health care in Venezuela
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2013, 07:02:49 PM »
Quote from: marv on November 06, 2013, 06:30:34 PM
Hmmm, reminds me of the Soviet Union. When the truth finally came out they were an empty shell. The wizard's Green Curtain of Oz fell, and everything was exposed.

Start with the OP and replace "Venezuela" with "Amerika". Then replace "Chavez" with "Obama". That should do it!

Well it reminds me of every commie/fascist/socialist/progressive/democrat experiment ever tried. As to the replacements---SPOT ON.

Smart people will start hoarding toilet paper like gold....because it will be.

We are over the cliff. I think the question now is will there be tens of millions of deaths at the end of this horrific experiment in collectivism or just millions? I'm betting tens.
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Re: primitives discuss health care in Venezuela
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2013, 07:07:33 PM »
Wow.  Where's JudiLyn when you need her?
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« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2013, 08:39:49 PM »
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1. Maybe they just need a better website.

Now that's funny.
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Re: primitives discuss health care in Venezuela
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2013, 08:57:50 PM »
Quote from: Purple Sage on November 06, 2013, 04:34:50 PM
If they can back off one crazed socialist, why can't they see the 0 for what he is?

Because racist.

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