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God help me, but I was just thinking about our 2016 Presidential prospects and got happy


Sorry, it was a thread about Senator Sanders (who I personally don't think would seek the nomination), but it got me thinking.

We really have an embarrassment of riches in '16: Clinton, O'Malley, Schweizer, Tester, Warren, and several other names I'm sure you can all come up with. I have no doubt this place will become absolutely intolerable with fighting about them, but I wanted to just get out there that we have some very, very excellent people to choose from.

Now, that's an election away and we have VA next month and the mid-terms next year, which we need to focus on. I just wanted to put some positive thoughts out there about how deep our bench is right now.

Actually, let me fix that for you:

We really have an embarrassment of riches in '16: Clinton, O'Malley, Schweizer, Tester, Warren, and several other names I'm sure you can all come up with.
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I sometimes think the DUmmies pretend to sit around pondering presidential (and other political races) 24 hours a day.

Are they really that desperate for something to do in their lives?  Or are they simply seeking the approval of the other DUmmies via their pretense.

EIther way, it is pitiful.
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Nice field of candidates. Sadly, the establishment GOP will put up a 1980s democrat style candidate and the base will not participate.

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Hardcore socialist, communist, Stalinist communist, Maoist communist, Maoist communist.

Nice field of candidates. Sadly, the establishment GOP will put up a 1980s democrat style candidate and the base will not participate.

Christie/Cruz 2016.
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Did you get the point I was making? 


The point is we keep running RINOs with either a conservative or a not as RINO vp candidate.
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Did you get the point I was making? 


The point is we keep running RINOs with either a conservative or a not as RINO vp candidate.
Honestly I didn't get it.....we don't need any more RINOs.
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Christieanybody/Cruz 2016.

Christie is a somebody, and so be default, he falls in the anybody category, too.



Come to think of it, he's several somebodies.  


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Christie is a somebody, and so be default, he falls in the anybody category, too.



Come to think of it, he's several somebodies.  



Just because he's suspected of accidentally inhaling several somebodies doesn't make him a somebody. :fuelfire:
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Re: God help me, but I was just thinking about our 2016 Presidential prospects
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2013, 05:48:37 PM »
Christie is a somebody, and so be default, he falls in the anybody category, too.



Come to think of it, he's several somebodies.  



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Re: God help me, but I was just thinking about our 2016 Presidential prospects
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2013, 05:53:28 PM »
After-dinner mint, sir...?

H5.   :rofl:


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Re: God help me, but I was just thinking about our 2016 Presidential prospects
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2013, 05:54:18 PM »
Did you get the point I was making? 


The point is we keep running RINOs with either a conservative or a not as RINO vp candidate.

I'm sick of voting for RINOs who are only a half-degree better than the Dem socialist candidate.

Put a CONSERVATIVE on the ballot, or I'm staying home.

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Re: God help me, but I was just thinking about our 2016 Presidential prospects
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2013, 06:10:00 PM »
I'm sick of voting for RINOs who are only a half-degree better than the Dem socialist candidate.

Put a CONSERVATIVE on the ballot, or I'm staying home.

I hope you're reading this, RNC--and it explains why I'm not giving you any money until I do.

They don't comprehend the first bold part but I bet they understand the latter bold part.
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Re: God help me, but I was just thinking about our 2016 Presidential prospects
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2013, 06:53:36 PM »
I'm sick of voting for RINOs who are only a half-degree better than the Dem socialist candidate.

Put a CONSERVATIVE on the ballot, or I'm staying home.

I hope you're reading this, RNC--and it explains why I'm not giving you any money until I do.

We lost two elections based almost entirely on race, not politics.

We did okay with Bush 41, Bush 43, Bush 43, and the magnificent Ronald Reagan, twice.

Every one of those guys was what tea partiers call RINOs.

At this early point, it seems like a small but significant chunk of the party favors self-immolation.

Not unlike how a chunk of moonbats would like to run Sanders/Kucinich.

Crazy.

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Re: God help me, but I was just thinking about our 2016 Presidential prospects
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2013, 06:56:24 PM »
We lost two elections based almost entirely on race, not politics.

We did okay with Bush 41, Bush 43, Bush 43, and the magnificent Ronald Reagan, twice.

Every one of those guys was what tea partiers call RINOs.

At this early point, it seems like a small but significant chunk of the party favors self-immolation.

Not unlike how a chunk of moonbats would like to run Sanders/Kucinich.

Crazy.

Reagan a RINO?
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Re: God help me, but I was just thinking about our 2016 Presidential prospects
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2013, 07:08:23 PM »
Reagan a RINO?

By tea party standards? Absolutely.

He constantly had to work with democrat majorities, and still had great accomplishments.

He rebuilt a military that Carter nearly wrecked, stopped the ruinous power of Big Labor, established the Solid South, won the Cold War, and destroyed the Soviet Union.

But over and over he compromised with Tip O'Neill, and he was a democrat union member in an earlier life.

A no-good RINO for sure.


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Re: God help me, but I was just thinking about our 2016 Presidential prospects
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2013, 07:10:32 PM »
By tea party standards? Absolutely.

He constantly had to work with democrat majorities, and still had great accomplishments.

He rebuilt a military that Carter nearly wrecked, stopped the ruinous power of Big Labor, established the Solid South, won the Cold War, and destroyed the Soviet Union.

But over and over he compromised with Tip O'Neill, and he was a democrat union member in an earlier life.

A no-good RINO for sure.

I have never heard anyone but Paul bots call him a RINO.
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Re: God help me, but I was just thinking about our 2016 Presidential prospects
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2013, 07:26:46 PM »
By tea party standards? Absolutely.

He constantly had to work with democrat majorities, and still had great accomplishments.

He rebuilt a military that Carter nearly wrecked, stopped the ruinous power of Big Labor, established the Solid South, won the Cold War, and destroyed the Soviet Union.

But over and over he compromised with Tip O'Neill, and he was a democrat union member in an earlier life.

A no-good RINO for sure.



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Re: God help me, but I was just thinking about our 2016 Presidential prospects
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2013, 07:30:40 PM »
Then why did the Tea Party stand behind Romney? 

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Re: God help me, but I was just thinking about our 2016 Presidential prospects
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2013, 07:39:03 PM »
Then why did the Tea Party stand behind Romney?

Probably the same reason I did, 0bama needed to go.
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Re: God help me, but I was just thinking about our 2016 Presidential prospects
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2013, 07:49:17 PM »
Christie/Cruz 2016.

If Christie's the nominee you're going to have another election like the last one, except I bet you'd have a helluva lot more people staying home. I'm sick to death of "moderate" north eastern establishment RINO's being pushed on us. I've had it! I don't care who the hell the VP is, a freaking near-democrat will do just as much damage as a dem, just at a slower pace.

The entire country is pissed. Almost 90% think we're headed in the wrong direction. That happens to be left. A moderate isn't going to change direction, though they'll put in a few more speed bumps to make us think he is. Amnesty, 0bamacare, nothing will change. The entire freaking country knows that even if they can't quite put their finger on it or express it in a tangible way.

I haven't sat out an election since I first voted when I was 18, but I will NOT vote for another RINO. Ever. Never again will I vote for a candidate that is chosen for us because the elites have all the money and all the connections. I'm sick to death of "doin the right thing" and voting for the lesser of two evils.

If everyone else wants to that's their perogative but never again will I vote for a milquetoast moderate. Republicans are so ****ing stupid! The left, including the press, has been saying for decades that we need a moderate so as not to offend the tender sensibilities of the squishy middle. And establishment republicans actually believe the left has our best interests in mind and want us to win? That's assinine. Obviously they're going to try to get us to choose a candidate that has the least chance of winning. With the exception of the economy, Romney said he agreed with almost every one of 0bama's policies. It's human nature to stay with the devil you know.

Moderates have no backbone. Look at how Christie bowed to 0bama right before the election. The press says something negative (what else are they going to do, they're democrats) the these moderates back themselves into a little corner and practically beg for foriveness. It's never given. Whatever comment or incident it was, it's pounded over and over and over. Romney, nice guy though he is, was an absolute pansy. Even when he acted the way the press said he should, they found something to critcize and with malice and gusto.

Meanwhile, they elect radicals. If they're going to take every single opportunity to rag on our candidate anyway, we can at least choose one that cares enough about our agenda and isn't cowed by the left, a candidate who can rise above the noise, just as Reagan did. There were three during the shut down: Cruz, Rand Paul and Lee.

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Re: God help me, but I was just thinking about our 2016 Presidential prospects
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2013, 07:52:55 PM »
If Christie's the nominee you're going to have another election like the last one, except I bet you'd have a helluva lot more people staying home. I'm sick to death of "moderate" north eastern establishment RINO's being pushed on us. I've had it! I don't care who the hell the VP is, a freaking near-democrat will do just as much damage as a dem, just at a slower pace.

The entire country is pissed. Almost 90% think we're headed in the wrong direction. That happens to be left. A moderate isn't going to change direction, though they'll put in a few more speed bumps to make us think he is. Amnesty, 0bamacare, nothing will change. The entire freaking country knows that even if they can't quite put their finger on it or express it in a tangible way.

I haven't sat out an election since I first voted when I was 18, but I will NOT vote for another RINO. Ever. Never again will I vote for a candidate that is chosen for us because the elites have all the money and all the connections. I'm sick to death of "doin the right thing" and voting for the lesser of two evils.

If everyone else wants to that's their perogative but never again will I vote for a milquetoast moderate. Republicans are so ****ing stupid! The left, including the press, has been saying for decades that we need a moderate so as not to offend the tender sensibilities of the squishy middle. And establishment republicans actually believe the left has our best interests in mind and want us to win? That's assinine. Obviously they're going to try to get us to choose a candidate that has the least chance of winning. With the exception of the economy, Romney said he agreed with almost every one of 0bama's policies. It's human nature to stay with the devil you know.

Moderates have no backbone. Look at how Christie bowed to 0bama right before the election. The press says something negative (what else are they going to do, they're democrats) the these moderates back themselves into a little corner and practically beg for foriveness. It's never given. Whatever comment or incident it was, it's pounded over and over and over. Romney, nice guy though he is, was an absolute pansy. Even when he acted the way the press said he should, they found something to critcize and with malice and gusto.

Meanwhile, they elect radicals. If they're going to take every single opportunity to rag on our candidate anyway, we can at least choose one that cares enough about our agenda and isn't cowed by the left, a candidate who can rise above the noise, just as Reagan did. There were three during the shut down: Cruz, Rand Paul and Lee.

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Re: God help me, but I was just thinking about our 2016 Presidential prospects
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2013, 07:54:10 PM »
Look,there were things that President Reagan did (amnesty,some tax hikes) that many today would excoriate.
Does that mean he was a turncoat?...no.

If Ted Cruz was elected President (something I would be quite pleased with) is it beyond imagination he would make a politically expedient deal in a situation?...no.

Something I find unfathomable is the number of people when asked about politics say they have no interest,don`t understand any of it etc.
They are not all stupid or evil people,they simply rather think about what movie is coming out and are the perfect useful idiot to the left.
As I said there was a reason ocare had all the upfront freebie goodies aimed at the 18-25 general demographic and the 35 and under female block which coordinated with the media orchestrated "war on women" campaign.
These people are not going to go away and they vote based on what someone promises to them.
It is a sickening reality and sooner or later a compromise we hate likely will happen.

When it becomes a complete sell out (McCain) most of us will turn away,here and there many will be annoyed but also pragmatic,some will not tolerate anything.

I want a candidate that will adhere to as conservative an agenda as will be doable,tries to pull along those that are in the mushy middle and is politically smart to know how to do battle with a press that now operates as an active campaign staff of the leftist agenda.  

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Re: God help me, but I was just thinking about our 2016 Presidential prospects
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2013, 08:38:43 PM »
I got news for the DUmmies. There ain't gonna BE no O'Malley, or Schweizer, or Tester, or Warren(!), or anyone else for that matter, who is going to run against Hillary. Hillary is the ORDAINED nominee, and HAS been ordained since the reelection of Obama.

You see, Democrats have NOTHING they want to have displayed in ANY negative manner. The don't want to have an upstart run against Hillary and have to have her defend all sorts of crap, such as Benghazi (to which any GOP Sec. of State would be in JAIL, or any other easy pickin's from Hillary's illustriously notorious government service. In addition, they don't want to have to debate economics, foreign policy, environment controls, or virtually ANYTHING that can only give the potential GOP nominee a lot of ammo for the general election period.

This is why the memo has been put out, and all the Democratic Party press release organizations, aka the mainstream media, are reporting as if Hillary is the nominee. Once contenders start to stick their head out of the ground, Hillary, along with OFA's Whack-A-Mole operatives, will pound them back into their holes to prevent any primary debates from occurring.

EDIT: In reply to Reagan: Obviously, with an overwhelmingly Democratic congress, as well as over 34 states controlled top to bottom by Democrats, he had to be more political than he wanted to be. But other than the economy, keep in mind his number one goal: defending this country from the Soviet threat, which I contend was the most perilous during the perestroika era than the mid-60's to early 80's. It was imperative that the Soviet Union not just be checked, but defeated, and that he did. In retrospect, he should have played more hardball with illegal immigration "reform" as well as with other forms of increasing the government, but the context of the era puts Reagan firmly in the conservative camp.

If Reagan would have had a Tea Party-esque supermajority in the Senate, as well as a huge majority in the House at ANY two-year period of his presidency, I guarantee that this country would have been set on a course that would have rendered it very difficult for the socialists to prevail. For instance, we would have had a firm conservative majority on the Supreme Court for one, as well as permanent economic relief from taxes built into the framework. And this was also pre- Saul Alinsky realization by the populace that the democrats were at WAR with the GOP and not just political adversaries. Nowadays, there is no excuse.

That said, the GOP dropped the ball and capitulated once he left office.
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