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Offline landofconfusion80

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Invasion of the Ostriches
« on: October 29, 2013, 07:16:46 AM »
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Obama admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance



http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/28/21213547-obama-admin-knew-millions-could-not-keep-their-health-insurance?lite
Uhhh... guys.... the great Obama might've screwed up...

So many heads are in the sand over this NBC article.  Just a few gems...

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NYC_SKP (54,097 posts)

7. The repugs are already running with this misleading story, carried by the MSM.

The very article cited in the OP is evidence of this.

I prefer not to give them any help. It just proves that the policies were worthless from the outset.
 

Surely these are all lies and a vast right wing conspiracy.

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34. No, the point is that junk insurance that rips
off unsuspecting policyholders. The point is that they won't be disappointed in their new and upgraded policies.
WE know what's best for you. We vote in YOUR best interest.... whether you like it or not!

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NYC_SKP (54,097 posts)

3. He was right, they can keep their policies, policies that had no guarantees built in.

Policies that could drop you for no reason at all, policies that could change the terms, rates, copays, at will.
 
There is no way that Obama or anyone else could make a guaranty that people could keep their insurance AND at the same price, terms, etc.
 
The blame for these cancellations lay with the companies, not with the president.
That's right! The insurance companies forced him to lie! Does that mean he's their puppet or how does that work?

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57. Trolls have been calling into liberal talk radio shows with this dribble for the last few weeks.
Oh you guys... listening to your liberal talk radio and making trouble...     :lol:
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20. absolute bullshit. the cave is unspeakably vile.

I don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

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Re: Invasion of the Ostriches
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2013, 07:29:52 AM »
IOW -- Obama lied, freedom died


But how many dems that voted for this POS knew he was lying but let him take the rap so they could lie again by claiming they didn't know any better they were just relying on the president?

HINT: The WH didn't write the bill, congressional staffers did and those staffers briefed the WH because that's how Obama knew.
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Re: Invasion of the Ostriches
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2013, 07:38:23 AM »
As a 68 year old male I know I feel better now that I will have guaranteed maternity insurance, free birth control pills, annual breast exams and PAP smears.
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Re: Invasion of the Ostriches
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2013, 07:38:50 AM »
Hey Liberal_Stalwart:  Obama said no listening to talk radio.  Also, it's "drivel" not "dribble." 

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62. that's not exactly true...
 




My 82 y/o mother has a decent plan as part of her retirement package. She has had some serious medical issues over the last year, culminating in a trans catheter aortic valve replacement late this past summer. She's on a fixed income, and her premium for her current policy costs her $138.00/month. It includes a good prescription plan, which she desperately needs. Without the scrip plan, her monthly meds would cost her several hundred dollars/month, with her current plan, her out of pocket is somewhere around $80/month.

 On October 2, she received a letter from her provider informing her that the carrier will be dropping her current plan on Jan 1. I have been scrambling to find coverage at the same cost....so far the best I can find increases her premium from the $138/month to around $400/month, with substantial increases in copay and out of pocket costs. She literally cannot afford higher costs. Her policy was supposed to be "grandfathered", but there are loopholes in that a mile wide. She is a couple grand over the income level that allows a subsidy, so there is no help there. I do not want her to lose her current doctors, but that may not be possible.

 As for her current plan being "substandard", that's just bullshit. She's had excellent coverage and care. The new ACA regulations call her plan "substandard" because in part it doesn't provide prenatal or pediatric care. WTF? She's EIGHTY TWO YEARS OLD!

It's a massive cluster**** of epic proportions.
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Re: Invasion of the Ostriches
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2013, 07:42:40 AM »
Isn't it just amazing how much obama doesn't know until it hits the MSM.

 Kind of makes you wonder ..WHO'S running the government?

He didn't know people would lose thier insurance.

He didn't know about Bengahzi.

He didn't know about the NSA spying on Merkle.

The list goes on  and on about what obama didn't know.
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Re: Invasion of the Ostriches
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2013, 07:48:31 AM »
Quote from: Linda on October 29, 2013, 07:42:40 AM
Isn't it just amazing how much obama doesn't know until it hits the MSM.

 Kind of makes you wonder ..WHO'S running the government?

He didn't know people would lose thier insurance.

He didn't know about Bengahzi.

He didn't know about the NSA spying on Merkle.

The list goes on  and on about what obama didn't know.


What does he not know and when did he not know it.
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Re: Invasion of the Ostriches
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2013, 09:28:10 AM »
These bastards would look at the temperature dial on the door and still insist they really were just showers.  :bird:
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Re: Invasion of the Ostriches
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2013, 09:40:12 AM »
This is the worst attempt at spin I've ever seen. Insurance policies that customers have had for decades upon decades are suddenly "junk insurance," "substandard", etc... and the owners of such policies should be glad obamacare came along to rid them of these horrible policies in favor of one that cost more and has higher deductibles, but now covers things like birth control.

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Re: Invasion of the Ostriches
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2013, 09:43:20 AM »
I take it that Obama now knows that 16 million will lose their insurance plans due to his signature cACA bill because it is in the newspapers?

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Re: Invasion of the Ostriches
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2013, 10:17:03 AM »
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54. You mean the insurance companies found a way to scam more money out of people.

They change the policies on purpose so that they wouldn't be able to be grandfathered in.
 Saying that he " knew" implies that he has some psychic power.
Getting stale.
I'm not sorry that people can't keep sucky ass plans that would bankrupt them anyway.
 I'm not.
The insurance companies see the writing on the wall. They will be phased out starting soon.
 And they will have to continue giving rebates when they overcharge. And we will sue them into irrelevance, if they don't comply.
 By reading what you have been writing for the last few days I'd think you wanted the Paul Ryan plan. Or non plan as it was.
Yes yessss... drink it... drink it all! Feel the hate and ignorance flow through you.
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20. absolute bullshit. the cave is unspeakably vile.

I don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

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Re: Invasion of the Ostriches
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2013, 10:19:48 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on October 29, 2013, 07:48:31 AM
What does he not know and when did he not know it.

That's pretty catchy, Reb, I may have to swipe that one for use elsewhere.  H5!

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Re: Invasion of the Ostriches
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2013, 10:35:35 AM »
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   â€œI spent two years defending ObamaCare. I had constituents scream at me, spit at me and call me names that I can’t put in print. The congressman was not reelected in 2010 mainly because of anti-ObamaCare anger. When the congressman was not reelected, I also (along with the rest of our staff) lost my job.

    I was upset that because of the healthcare issue, I didn’t have a job anymore but still defended ObamaCare because it would make health care available to everyone at, what I assumed, would be an affordable price. I have now learned that I was wrong. Very wrong.”

    â€œBlue Cross,” she said, “stated my current coverage would expire on Dec. 31, and here are my options: I can have a plan with similar benefits for $647.12 [or] I can have a plan with similar [but higher] pricing for $322.32 but with a $6,500 deductible.”

    She went on, “Blue Cross also tells me that if I don’t pick one of the options, they will just assume I want the one for $647. … Someone please tell me why my premium in January will be $356 more than in December?”

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I have absolutely ZERO amount of sympathy for an idiot that, not only voted for Obama on this issue, but actively worked to support it.






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Re: Invasion of the Ostriches
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2013, 10:48:57 AM »
Quote from: Rebel on October 29, 2013, 10:35:35 AM
Email To Ex-Boss From Former Dem Staffer Who Lost Her Job Due To ObamaCare

I have absolutely ZERO amount of sympathy for an idiot that, not only voted for Obama on this issue, but actively worked to support it.








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Re: Invasion of the Ostriches
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2013, 11:49:19 AM »
 
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I was upset that because of the healthcare issue, I didn’t have a job anymore but still defended ObamaCare because it would make health care available to everyone at, what I assumed, would be an affordable price. I have now learned that I was wrong. Very wrong.”

I hate democrats, so there's a lot of satisfaction in seeing one suffering, buried in unicorn shit.

Unfortunately, the enjoyment is tempered by the knowledge that a lot of decent, civilized people are finding themselves in similar straits due to the democrat health debacle.
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