primitives discuss electricity

[diesel driver]

Or someone decided to do a little home wiring and nutted hot to neutral.  And yeah...I'd disconnect the wiring to the lights at the switch and go from there.  Have these idiots ever heard of "half-splitting"?

I wired a 250V, 50 amp, single phase control box for a silo unloader for a farmer back in 1993.  There were 3 wires, white, black, and green.

I wired the white and black wires to the contacts, the green went to the ground lug in the box.

Motor wouldn't start, acted like it was running on low voltage, and the box would KNOCK THE PISS OUT OF YOU!!!

Pulled the cover off the breaker box, black and GREEN wires were hot, white was ground!!!

Now I know where DUmmie skippy was 20 years ago!!!   

[thundley4]

I wired a 250V, 50 amp, single phase control box for a silo unloader for a farmer back in 1993.  There were 3 wires, white, black, and green.

I wired the white and black wires to the contacts, the green went to the ground lug in the box.

Motor wouldn't start, acted like it was running on low voltage, and the box would KNOCK THE PISS OUT OF YOU!!!

Pulled the cover off the breaker box, black and GREEN wires were hot, white was ground!!!

Now I know where DUmmie skippy was 20 years ago!!!   

We have a customer that installs grain bins and the associated driers. Every so often they send in a shipment of single phase motors to be checked out. There have been a bunch of them that either had a capacitor wire or a motor lead connected to the green grounding screw. These are brand new, still in the box motors from Mexico.

[Delmar]

Note to Conservative Cavers: Yes, I'm also an electrician, ya assholes.

NYC_SKP knew Ohm's law before congress passed it.

[I_B_Perky]

"Circuit breakers rarely go bad."  That right there tells me he ain't no electrician!

Yep!!!! I ain't no electrician but dad was and I have worked with him since I was old enough to hand him tools. I learned a few things and the first thing you learn is to check the service first. Any electrician worth his salt carries spare breakers for every service box you might encounter. Now dad was good... he could usually tell if the breaker was bad by fooling it with it a little bit. If it was a trailer, mobile home, whatever you wanna call them... built in the late 70's, he would check the connection to the wire/breaker first. He said they all had aluminum wiring. 9 times out of 10, if it was a trailer, it was nothing more than tightening it down. Now if that wasn't the case and he suspected it was the breaker... out to the truck went my ass to get whatever brand of breaker he required. Breaker changed, lights on, all good, get paid and go home. Lights not on, out come the meter.

When the meter come out, you knew you was gonna be there for an hour or so.   

I always enjoyed working with Dad when I was growing up. Paid your ass well just to hand him tools. You just had to make sure whatever tool he wanted you got it in less than 6 seconds. And you was gonna go out in all kinds of weather at night whenever he got an after hours call.

[diesel driver]

Yep!!!! I ain't no electrician but dad was and I have worked with him since I was old enough to hand him tools. I learned a few things and the first thing you learn is to check the service first. Any electrician worth his salt carries spare breakers for every service box you might encounter. Now dad was good... he could usually tell if the breaker was bad by fooling it with it a little bit. If it was a trailer, mobile home, whatever you wanna call them... built in the late 70's, he would check the connection to the wire/breaker first. He said they all had aluminum wiring. 9 times out of 10, if it was a trailer, it was nothing more than tightening it down. Now if that wasn't the case and he suspected it was the breaker... out to the truck went my ass to get whatever brand of breaker he required. Breaker changed, lights on, all good, get paid and go home. Lights not on, out come the meter.

When the meter come out, you knew you was gonna be there for an hour or so.   

I always enjoyed working with Dad when I was growing up. Paid your ass well just to hand him tools. You just had to make sure whatever tool he wanted you got it in less than 6 seconds. And you was gonna go out in all kinds of weather at night whenever he got an after hours call.

My Dad and I made many "after hour" calls to fix something electrical.

Only thing was, WE NEVER LEFT THE FARM!!!   

[I_B_Perky]

My Dad and I made many "after hour" calls to fix something electrical.

Only thing was, WE NEVER LEFT THE FARM!!!   

Aw shit  DD!!! You just reminded me of the dreaded Grandpa Perky after hours call. That was an hour and half drive up to Liberty and I didn't get a damned cent out of it. And it seemed like it was always 10 freaking degrees and 1 in the morning when that happened. By the time we got home, it was time for the morning paper route and then school. Then b-ball practice after school, then afternoon paper route.

Then it never freaking failed... he called again!

Thanks DD. You just ruined my memories.  Just kidding. 

[diesel driver]

Aw shit  DD!!! You just reminded me of the dreaded Grandpa Perky after hours call. That was an hour and half drive up to Liberty and I didn't get a damned cent out of it. And it seemed like it was always 10 freaking degrees and 1 in the morning when that happened. By the time we got home, it was time for the morning paper route and then school. Then b-ball practice after school, then afternoon paper route.

Then it never freaking failed... he called again!

Thanks DD. You just ruined my memories.  Just kidding.  

Sad part is, I know where Liberty IS!  On WV 34 between Kenna and Red House.

Right outside Paradise, a place so small, the "Welcome To" and "Y'all Come Back" signs are on the same post!!!  


And yes, something always breaks down at 1:00am, in subfreezing weather, usually raining/snowing, and you don't quit/eat until those cows get fed, even if you have to do it BY HAND!  Back up at 4:00 to milk and feed again, then off to school, back home, milk/feed, homework, shower, bed.  Start all over again the next day.

Sundays were special.  Didn't have school, homework!   

[I_B_Perky]

Sad part is, I know where Liberty, WV, IS!  On WV 34 between Kenna and Red House.

Right outside Paradise, a place so small, the "Welcome To" and "Y'all Come Back" signs are on the same post!!!   

Fun road ain't it DD? Especially coming up the hill.. or down... on the Kanawha River side down to 25 where it becomes 34.  Especially you driving a large truck.  Ain't too bad once you get up there on top of Red House Hill... until you get past Confidence.

Paradise is small... along with Confidence and others.  Only reason I know there IS a Confidence was cause Dad's 67 Ford F100 had a fuel hose pop off the fuel pump and Dad pulled off the side of the road. Right there as plain as day was a sign that said "Welcome to Confidence. Please don't litter." I looked around and there was absolutely nothing there except a grade school up on a hill in the distance and this little wide red clay shoulder that we stopped on.

I figured we was in for a damned long walk.  Then a farmer driving his tractor stopped by and he had a spare clamp in his tool box that worked.  Gotta love rural WV.

Haven't been up there since like 97 when Grandpa Perky died.   

I'm outta here until Saturday. You take care DD. 

[diesel driver]

You too, perky.
Have a good one!   

[miskie]

No shit.  I don't know how many I've replaced at work in the last year alone.

Of course, idiots like him figure it's better to test a circuit by energizing it than by using a meter on it.  Dumbasses.

Yo, Skippy!  Since you're an electrician, I'm sure you and I can have an awesome conversation over NFPA70E one of these days, right?

This whole thread makes me laugh. The missus is a meter tech for the local electric company. I might have to show her this thread so she can laugh at the DUmbass too.

[GOBUCKS]

I herby denounce Skippy as a bully.  His shout out to innocent Cavers has caused me to temper my comments.  I shall, however, carry on in spite of his browbeating.

Skippy is a fag, I have never met a fag electrician.

He also posts here every day under his mole account, even after accidentally outing himself.

[NHSparky]

This whole thread makes me laugh. The missus is a meter tech for the local electric company. I might have to show her this thread so she can laugh at the DUmbass too.

And the funny thing is, one of the DUmmies claimed you couldn't get a breaker for his panel.

Uh, really?  Cause I can walk into Home Depot/Lowes/even Walmart and get a breaker.  Single or double-pole, 15 amp through 200 amp (obviously no 200 amp singles, put your dick away, SKP) and GFCI's up through 60 amp without any problem.  I could even get a 10-circuit transfer panel and have it mounted and installed in under 2 hours. 

For which, were I so inclined, I could charge upwards of $150 for labor, plus the panel and any other parts if I had to drill into concrete (like I did on mine.)  But last time I did it, we used his kit and I settled for a couple of beers afterwards and a little shoot-the-shit.

SKP probably thinks having a long-buried copy of Ugly's qualifies him as an electrician, the poor dumb bastard.

[BlueStateSaint]

SKP probably thinks having a long-buried copy of Ugly's qualifies him as an electrician, the poor dumb bastard.

Let him think that.  Maybe he'll "light up his life."

[txradioguy]

Note to Conservative Cavers: Yes, I'm also an electrician, ya assholes.

So?

DUmbass. 

[jukin]

I wired a 250V, 50 amp, single phase control box for a silo unloader for a farmer back in 1993.  There were 3 wires, white, black, and green.

I wired the white and black wires to the contacts, the green went to the ground lug in the box.

Motor wouldn't start, acted like it was running on low voltage, and the box would KNOCK THE PISS OUT OF YOU!!!

Pulled the cover off the breaker box, black and GREEN wires were hot, white was ground!!!

Now I know where DUmmie skippy was 20 years ago!!!   

He really screwed up because that should be TWO black wires and a green.