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Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncy- Did I say Stooooopid?
« on: October 23, 2013, 07:10:50 PM »
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I know that this will drop like a rock but the DUmbass need exposing.

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Tue Oct 22, 2013, 11:07 PM

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wow...I completely forgot I'm a Veteran and won't need to sign up for ACA!
I tried to sign up for ACA and could not do it. I was kinda nervous about the cost because last year our family earned about 75,000 dollars. Of course most of that was liquidated retirement for me and my wife. We only realized a fraction of that because of penalties and taxes. At the time we really needed the money because we had both been fired from our jobs.
So on paper we would probably have to pay more for insurance than we could actually afford. We are both working now, but I am only working part time...so our actual income is maybe 45 annum.
Long story short...did not sign up for ACA (couldn't)...VA sent me a letter reminding me I'm a Veteren...now I am signed up for the VA hospital...

dodged that bullet...

WTF.

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Tue Oct 22, 2013, 11:21 PM

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1. One of the Veterans I work with

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told me he is 100% disabled. Does not have to worry about medical care ever, and in fact, the doctor arranged for him to get free transportation to the VA hospital so he doesn't have to pay for a Cab to get there. He also has free dental as well and can get eye wear if he needs it.

Sounds like a sweet deal for him, not to mention he gets to occasionally try some of my pumpkin spice cookies

You DUmb bitch. It doesn't sound like a sweet deal to me. Think of what he endured to get the 100% disability status.

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Wed Oct 23, 2013, 12:52 AM

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2. I'm one of those lucky Vets

I was never hurt once or injured in the line of Duty! I did get my ass kicked once by a couple of yakuza bouncers outside of Yokota AFB, but admittedly I deserved it.
They built a brand spanking new VA Hospital just 5 minutes from where I live. I suppose I was due a little luck after the last couple of years.

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Wed Oct 23, 2013, 06:42 AM

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3. I got a letter from the VA about a month ago stating that I was covered by the VA and that complied

with the ACA.

I never got one. obama must be arranging for conservative vets to meet a death panel.

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Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:56 AM

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6. That has to be wrong,...

I'm not an expert on the VA health system, but I'm an associate member of a veterans organization (Dad was a Marine Corps Vet with 15 years of service). I know that many of our members, both peace time and combat vets, disabled and non-disabled receive their care via the VA. Many I believe whose income is above your listed amount (business owners and mid level execs) go the VA.


How could someone forget that they were a veteran?




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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncie- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2013, 07:13:45 PM »
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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncie- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2013, 07:14:59 PM »
When the SHTF, I have a long list and lots of ammo.
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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncy- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2013, 07:30:46 PM »
Another example of the genius of the primitives. They are so smart that trivial facts like being a veteran slips their minds. Must be all the other knowledge they possess kicks out trivial facts like this.
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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncy- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2013, 07:33:49 PM »
Dear DUmmies--I am an honorably discharged veteran.  I do not have a VA disability rating (thank goodness) but as I did not serve in certain time periods or certain boxes on the map, despite the ever-present risk regardless, nor did I retire from the military, I am not eligible for VA care.  Meh.  I left with my health intact, and for that, am ever grateful.  They owe me nothing.

You might want to reconsider that "eligibility" as well, especially considering a disability rating right now is taking upwards of 2 years to be determined.
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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncy- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2013, 07:36:02 PM »
Your life has to be total shit to brag about qualifying for VA care.  I qualify and wouldn't go anywhere near a VA butcher shop.  This is however one of the unsung nightmares of O'bungacare in that they dumped millions of veterans into the VA who didn't previously qualify for treatment because the had no service related disability.  They will crush the already swamped system.
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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncy- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2013, 07:43:25 PM »
Guess what DUmpmonkies. The care you receive, is based on your disability, and even your need.
In other words, They will see me, long before they see you, unless you match mine.
It's a graduated system, DUmpmonkies. Me, before thee.
Don't bog it down by looking to skate away from your beloved Obumblecare.
Leave it alone for those of us that earned it the hard way.
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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncy- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2013, 07:55:21 PM »
Quote from: Skul on October 23, 2013, 07:43:25 PM
Guess what DUmpmonkies. The care you receive, is based on your disability, and even your need.
In other words, They will see me, long before they see you, unless you match mine.
It's a graduated system, DUmpmonkies. Me, before thee.
Don't bog it down by looking to skate away from your beloved Obumblecare.
Leave it alone for those of us that earned it the hard way.

As AsahinaKimi opined in above post, Don't you feel lucky?
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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncy- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2013, 08:00:51 PM »
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told me he is 100% disabled. Does not have to worry about medical care ever, and in fact, the doctor arranged for him to get free transportation to the VA hospital so he doesn't have to pay for a Cab to get there. He also has free dental as well and can get eye wear if he needs it.

Sounds like a sweet deal for him, not to mention he gets to occasionally try some of my pumpkin spice cookies


Wait, he's 100% disabled but he works?  Huh?   :mental:
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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncy- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2013, 08:13:31 PM »
Quote from: Tucker on October 23, 2013, 07:55:21 PM
As AsahinaKimi opined in above post, Don't you feel lucky?
If I really, truly had my druthers. No.
My life changed in a "bang". Flying career was over.
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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncy- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2013, 09:05:21 PM »
My Dad served in the Navy during WW2 and could have used VA services but he avoided going to them because he kinda got the impression they experimented on patients. Now maybe that was a concern of that generation or something, but I remember other vets that agreed with him. Then again I know of an older man who needed a hip replacement about 15 years ago and went to the VA and was very happy with the way things went and the care he received.

But my Dad...... you would have had to drag him there.

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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncy- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2013, 09:08:37 PM »
Quote from: Traveshamockery on October 23, 2013, 08:00:51 PM

Wait, he's 100% disabled but he works?  Huh?
This sounds like a guy who could qualify for a service-connected wallduding.
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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncy- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2013, 09:12:14 PM »
Quote from: USA4ME on October 23, 2013, 09:05:21 PM
My Dad served in the Navy during WW2 and could have used VA services but he avoided going to them because he kinda got the impression they experimented on patients. Now maybe that was a concern of that generation or something, but I remember other vets that agreed with him. Then again I know of an older man who needed a hip replacement about 15 years ago and went to the VA and was very happy with the way things went and the care he received.

But my Dad...... you would have had to drag him there.

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Like most things, VA care varies greatly from facility to facility.  It is a well known fact that they are understaffed and criminally underfunded.  Not a recipe for great care and I will avoid them until I'm desperate.  At least that way I'm not taking up resources needed by vets. who have less than I.
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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncy- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2013, 09:13:04 PM »
Quote from: Traveshamockery on October 23, 2013, 08:00:51 PM

Wait, he's 100% disabled but he works?  Huh?   :mental:

Em,

VA disability ratings are not directly tied to "ability to work". A Veteran can have 100% disability and work.

On the other hand, a Veteran with rating of 60% or above for one condition, or 70% or above combined rating for two or more, who is unable to work because of the service connected condition(s), can apply for Individual Unemployability (IU) compensation, which increases payment to the 100% level.
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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncy- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2013, 09:16:56 PM »
Quote from: Big Dog on October 23, 2013, 09:13:04 PM
Em,

VA disability ratings are not directly tied to "ability to work". A Veteran can have 100% disability and work.

On the other hand, a Veteran with rating of 60% or above for one condition, or 70% or above combined rating for two or more, who is unable to work because of the service connected condition(s), can apply for Individual Unemployability (IU) compensation, which increases payment to the 100% level.

My initial interpretation of her saying " One of the Veterans I work with" was that she was a physical therapist or similar occupation.
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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncy- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2013, 10:55:30 PM »
Quote from: Tucker on October 23, 2013, 09:16:56 PM
My initial interpretation of her saying " One of the Veterans I work with" was that she was a physical therapist or similar occupation.

Could be. I had a hard time unwrapping it- the pumpkin cookies threw me off.
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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncy- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2013, 11:45:21 PM »
I know virtually nothing about the VA and/or VA medical care.  When I retired from the Navy in 1988, I did go to the VA hospital for an evaluation, and was told I was eligible for a 10% disability rating due to hearing loss.  I didn't do anything more with them, and was never processed for that loss.

Some years later I was chatting with a nurse from the VA hospital, and was told by her that the VA hospital system likes to get "people like you" (meaning me) because with the income-based sliding scale for charges, they get a lot of money from us.

Those are the only two encounters I've had with the VA, and comprises my total experience/knowledge of it/them - and I don't even know how accurate the second item is, or was.
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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncy- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2013, 03:39:43 AM »
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Long story short...did not sign up for ACA (couldn't)...VA sent me a letter reminding me I'm a Veteren...now I am signed up for the VA hospital...

dodged that bullet...

Not so fast DUmmie:

171,000 Retirees Likely To Lose Tricare Prime

http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,251962,00.html
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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2013, 04:58:29 AM »
Just noticed this:

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Long story short...did not sign up for ACA (couldn't)...VA sent me a letter reminding me I'm a Veteren...now I am signed up for the VA hospital...

dodged that bullet..

Another lying sack of shit.
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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncy- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2013, 06:12:22 AM »
Quote from: Tucker on October 24, 2013, 04:58:29 AM
Just noticed this:

Another lying sack of shit.

Good call.

DUmbshit sez, "now I am signed up for the VA hospital..."

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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncy- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2013, 06:13:37 AM »
Quote from: txradioguy on October 24, 2013, 03:39:43 AM
Not so fast DUmmie:

171,000 Retirees Likely To Lose Tricare Prime

http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,251962,00.html

Yep my husband and I fall into that catagory.
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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2013, 06:20:41 AM »
Quote from: Linda on October 24, 2013, 06:13:37 AM
Yep my husband and I fall into that catagory.


The first of many promises to come between the Government and veterans/soldiers that has been broken.
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Re: Stooooopid phony veteran and obamacare bouncy- Did I say Stooooopid?
« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2013, 06:50:13 AM »
Quote from: txradioguy on October 24, 2013, 03:39:43 AM
Not so fast DUmmie:

171,000 Retirees Likely To Lose Tricare Prime

http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,251962,00.html
But they are not thrown completely under the bus.  From the article (dated last year) linked
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With the presidential election over, Defense officials are expected to announce soon that military retirees and their dependents living more than 40 miles from a military treatment facility or base closure site will lose access to TRICARE Prime, the military's managed care option.

These beneficiaries would be expected to shift to TRICARE Standard, their fee-for-service insurance option, which would mean an increase in out-of-pocket costs for beneficiaries who are frequent users of health services.

Much more at the link
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« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2013, 06:50:57 AM »
Quote from: txradioguy on October 24, 2013, 06:20:41 AM
The first of many promises to come between the Government and veterans/soldiers that has been broken.

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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2013, 06:57:42 AM »
He says "Dodged the bullet".   I am surprised someone that can't even afford the premium over there for the crappy insurance is not going to go off on him.  He knows it shit and he is  :bigbird: to them.
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