poll: serious question; yes, really

[franksolich]

As some here might know, the Taverner primitive's paternal ancestor died this past week after suffering a series of strokes.

The Taverner primitive was constantly at the bedside, no doubt checking the labels on the tan transparent bottles of pharmaceuticals, to see if any of them might be worth adding to his personal inventory.

Anyway, and this is a serious question:

Should the DUmpster disallow campfires wherein the original topic is a primitive mourning the loss of a relative?

The DUmpster currently does not forbid posting campfires of any topic over which the primitives wiggle-waggle their armpits.

The DUmpster especially does not forbid posting campfires from Skins's island in which the death of a primitive is announced; after all, the sooner the demise of the primitives, the better for humanity.

But these are two different animals here, the death of a primitive and the death of a relative of a primitive.

As one can gather from the primitives' Thanksgiving and Christmas campfires, the relatives of primitives seem to be pretty decent and civilized people, and so when they pass from this time and place, one of course hopes that God has mercy on their souls.

One might, or might not, recall that when the big guy from Bellevue's mother died a year and a half ago, that campfire was hustled into a non-public forum here, because while we all felt a Great Sorrow for the big guy's maternal ancestress, it got contentious because sob-sisters here thought we should feel sorry for the big guy too, while the more sensible of us thought God commanded that we feel sorry for the big guy's mother only, and to Hell with her lazy squalid son.

I suggest to our sob-sisters that their compassion is misplaced; all this "love thy neighbor as thyself," "judge not lest ye be judged," "turn the other cheek," "do unto others as you would have them do unto you," &c., &c., &c., do not mean what they superficially seem to mean. 

If one wants to know what they really mean, there are plenty of Judaic, Christian, and yes, even Moslem, theologians who've studied the Scriptures at great length, and who are happy to explain.

[Dori]

I voted yes because mourning the death of a family member over the public air waves seems...well unseemly.  To me it's an intimate time between family and friends to support each other during their time of grief.

The funeral/memorial is also for those who knew the deceased to come together to celebrate the parted members life and after reward, not to be broadcast to strangers for sympathy.



 

   

[Freeper]

I have no love for the primitives, however I hate it when they grave dance on people on our side, so I would be a hypocrite if I said I was ok  with the grave dancing on our side. And yes there are people here who are just as bad as the DUmmies when it comes to grave dancing.

[NHSparky]

It's $kammer's site, ergo, his rules.

However, I don't think it's in poor form necessarily to discuss the passing of a relative.  It's done here by posters, and if done tastefully and with respect, can be quite touching.

Grave dancing, OTOH, totally another story.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

I am, for the most part, beyond pity.

So I declined to answer the poll because I am not a fair judge.

[redwhit]

Voted not sure, probably (in hindsight and more coffee should have said "no") simply because of the full faith I have in the moderation here.  If it gets ugly and needs to get moved away, it most certainly will be.

[dutch508]

It's $kammer's site, ergo, his rules.

However, I don't think it's in poor form necessarily to discuss the passing of a relative.  It's done here by posters, and if done tastefully and with respect, can be quite touching.

Grave dancing, OTOH, totally another story.

No.

But the above is also true

[freedumb2003b]

In general, we should not dance on graves.

If someone is grieving, we should for the moment put aside our political differences and offer what solace we can.
 
I am still struggling with my Mom's passing -- 10 years later. 

Let us be better than them.  Because we are.

[Karin]

I am not a fan of banning things.  However, I would never start a thread with that subject matter, and I think the only comment I would leave would be "RIP, my condolences," or nothing at all. 

[franksolich]

I am, for the most part, beyond pity.

So I declined to answer the poll because I am not a fair judge.

Me too.

However, God gave each of us the gift of judgement, and we're supposed to use it.

I don't care what happens when a primitive dies, and we have the sob-sisters here chastising those of us more realistic for our hard-heartedness.

But if it's a relative of a primitive who dies, what happens is usually the sob-sisters get on the case of the hardened ones, because while expressing sympathy for the deceased, we refuse at the same time to express any sympathy for the still-living primitive.

<<<picks-and-chooses who to feel sorry for, using that gift of judgement.

<<<doesn't feel sorry for everybody.

[franksolich]

I am not a fan of banning things.  However, I would never start a thread with that subject matter, and I think the only comment I would leave would be "RIP, my condolences," or nothing at all. 

Well, yeah, really, I don't make the rules here; this poll was simply to get insight of how others feel about the matter.

I read all of the Taverner primitive's "my father's dying" campfires this past week, but refused to bring them over.  While I'm very sorry the Taverner primitive's father, who appeared to be a decent and civilized person, died, I have nothing but scorn and contempt for the Taverner primitive himelf.

But if I'd brought any of those campfires over here, oh my God.....

[BlueStateSaint]

I said no because there's no guarantee that the thread about the loss of the relative of a primitive won't have a shot at conservatives or Republicans.  That should be highlighted.

[BattleHymn]

I said no because there's no guarantee that the thread about the loss of the relative of a primitive won't have a shot at conservatives or Republicans.  That should be highlighted.

What he said.  Primitives always attempt to politicize anything under the sun.

If they don't want it brought over here, don't politicize it, and I doubt it will ever make it over here.

[Big Dog]

Should the DUmpster disallow campfires wherein the original topic is a primitive mourning the loss of a relative?

I voted "no".

I have not seen disrespect here toward a DUmmy's family member when we read of their death. That is one of the things that separate good and decent people from the proglodytes.

But the hypocrisy, poor judgment, and immaturity of the DUmmies are fair game, any time.

[Gern]

No, anyone should feel free to post what they want.

My personal opinion?  It's beyond tacky to mock someone's dead relative.  Even I draw the line, there.

[Dori]

No, anyone should feel free to post what they want.

My personal opinion?  It's beyond tacky to mock someone's dead relative.  Even I draw the line, there.

I think the question is about whether the DUmp should make it a public or private forum for members only.

I voted yes, that they should make it private.

 

 

 

[DefiantSix]

I voted 'no'.

The odds are exceptionally remote that if a DUmbshit simply posts a thread marking the passing of a "loved one" and the rest of  the proglodytes merely filed past the campfire, paid their respects, offered condolences for the DUmmy's loss, and generally behaved  or mimicked the behavior of normal, rational people around them, that such a thread would be deemed of sufficient anthropological interest to load in the boat for the trip back from Skin's Island. Normal, well adjusted people just don't feel comfortable doing that, so it doesn't get done; ergo, nowhere near the amount of grave dancing here as is observed of the proglodytes.

However, in my view, the primary purpose of the Dumpster is to shine the illustrative spotlight on the differences between Australopithicus Proglodytus and Homo Sapiens that normal humanity would not at first glance be aware of. The funerary threads of DUmbasses inevitably break down and become prime examples of these differences, and therefore stand as thick, rich veins of demonstrative educational ore, just begging to be exploited. To discover such richness, and then allow normal H. Sapiens sensitivies to forestall it's exploitation would be a true disservice to mankind. 

[BattleHymn]

the primary purpose of the Dumpster is to shine the illustrative spotlight on the differences between Australopithicus Proglodytus and Homo Sapiens that normal humanity would not at first glance be aware of.

You guys crack me up sometimes.   

[Dori]

To discover such richness, and then allow normal H. Sapiens sensitivies to forestall it's exploitation would be a true disservice to mankind.

That's true. It's obvious their evolution process took a terrible turn and they present a real danger for the rest of us. The sooner we recognize and exploit that danger the safer mankind will be.  Not all life forms  should be protected from extinction and they certainly do seem hell bent on self extinction.   
   

 

       

[Tess Anderson]

No. I didn't touch tav's thread about his father (who sounds like a MUCH better person than Mark ever was) and what I didn't like about Omaha Steve's a couple of years ago was that he politicized his own mother's death in the same thread that he announced it in.

[Mr Mannn]

No. I didn't touch tav's thread about his father (who sounds like a MUCH better person than Mark ever was) and what I didn't like about Omaha Steve's a couple of years ago was that he politicized his own mother's death in the same thread that he announced it in.

I'm voting no for this reason. and the simple fact that DUmmies will lie-even about death.
That said, mocking the death of a decent person is not something I will participate in.

[dandi]

I find it distasteful to mock the death of a DUmmy relative or any genuine grief that DUmmy may feel, if it's just that. Now, if it devolves into the DUmbass complaining about his siblings part in the will, how he or she now have to move out of the basement and get a job, how they hated the relative because they were conservative, or some other such self-serving shit as that, then it's open season. From what I've seen, our community is pretty good about self-regulating those kinds of posts.

[Ptarmigan]

I do not run DU, so I have no dog in this fight. I am sure there are private sections of DU, so they can express their grief.

Someone who is grief stricken would not have politics on their mind. Of course there was Paul Wellstone, which became a political rally at a funeral. Sickening!

I seem to notice that DUmmies usually have poor relationship with their families.

[miskie]

I Vote no -

This is one of the ways most of us distinguish ourselves from our primitive friends.

If a conservative or a relative of a conservative dies, they grave dance. And for the most part we do not.

[Carl]

Let him mourn in peace until he makes a political issue of some sort out of the passing.