A fun trip down DU's Memory(hole) lane....

[miskie]

I've said it before, and Ill say it again. At DU, there is no past, there is only present - If the lead Democrats do a 180 on their position on anything, not only do the loyal DU minions, but they forget that they had the opposite opinion on the same topic just a little while before.

Here are just a few Debt Ceiling threads from just a few years ago..

Congress Asked to Lift Debt Limit
National debt grows $1 million a minute
National debt history 1951-present
US Treasury to halt state, local securities sales (to prevent breach of national debt limit)


And this is just a few samples...

Now, before you progs get all high and mighty and claim, 'well you rethugs also did a 180' , You need to remember one thing. All of the people responsible for attempting to stop this crap (read as: "Tea Party") weren't in office then.

[Skul]

I've said it before, and Ill say it again. At DU, there is no past, there is only present - If the lead Democrats do a 180 on their position on anything, not only do the loyal DU minions, but they forget that they had the opposite opinion on the same topic just a little while before.

Here are just a few Debt Ceiling threads from just a few years ago..

Congress Asked to Lift Debt Limit
National debt grows $1 million a minute
National debt history 1951-present <---This one
US Treasury to halt state, local securities sales (to prevent breach of national debt limit)


And this is just a few samples...

Now, before you progs get all high and mighty and claim, 'well you rethugs also did a 180' , You need to remember one thing. All of the people responsible for attempting to stop this crap (read as: "Tea Party") weren't in office then.

DUmmie logic will claim the debt almost doubled under GWB, and it's only almost doubled under Bronco Bama, so it's the same.
Gee, thanks, DUmmies.

[USA4ME]

All their posts - "Just say NO to raising the debt ceiling! Just say NO to raising the debt ceiling!"

Now they sing a different tune. Like birds in a cage.

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[Kimberly]

Great job compiling this. H5 for you! Proof they are nothing but a bunch of partisan hypocrites.

ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore  Wed Sep-19-07 11:38 AM
 Response to Original message

8. what's the point of a ceiling if you just keep raising it? Let's just do
away with it all together.....like our civil liberties? Let's face it, it was a 'quaint notion' to have a debt ceiling, but that is now horse a buggy thinking. The commander in chimp needs unlimited spending authority if we're ever going to win the war on terrorism. We have to keep spending over there so we don't have to spend it here!

Seriously, isn't this the second time in jr's tenure that they've had to do this or am I mistaken?

LOL! Now we've got dems talking about giving Obarky martial law to keep spending money.

UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore  Fri Sep-21-07 12:52 PM
 Response to Reply #4

7. $29,727.74 per person

 
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock /

The estimated population of the United States is 303,045,170
so each citizen's share of this debt is $29,727.74.

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$1.41 billion per day since September 29, 2006

Now it's $53,000 for each person or $123,000 for each employed person. Where's your anger now?

[txradioguy]

LOL! Now we've got dems talking about giving Obarky martial law to keep spending money.
 

Dems don't need to do that.  Obama just took that power away from Congress himself.

[Rebel]

Look at this DUmbass who was bitching about 9.82 trillion. He linked to a debt clock. It's a tad different now:

UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore    Thu Sep-20-07 12:39 PM

27. Paulson warns Congress about debt ceiling (wants to raise it to almost $10 Trillion)
   
Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson told Congress on Wednesday the government will hit the current debt ceiling on Oct. 1.

He sought quick action to increase the limit, saying it was essential to protect the "full faith and credit" of the country, especially at a time of financial market turmoil.

The limit is $8.965 trillion. Unless Congress votes to raise it, the country would be unable to borrow more money to keep the government operating and to pay debt obligations coming due.

The United States has never defaulted on a debt payment but the decision on whether to raise the debt ceiling often means a prolonged battle in Congress.

<snip>

This month, the Senate Finance Committee approved increasing the limit on the debt
to $9.82 trillion. That boost of $850 billion would be the fifth since President Bush took office in 2001.

Read more: http://www.thonline.com/article.cfm?id=173797


The Outstanding Public Debt as of 20 Sep 2007 at 03:30:31 PM GMT is:

(It's 16.750 trillion, but it didn't carry over in plain text)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2997131

[Rebel]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7128942

TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore    Sat Sep-20-08 12:53 PM

1. Clinton & Carter = 12 yrs avg. $123 bil defic/yr. Reagan, Bush, Bush = 20 yrs avg $375 bil defic/yr
   
That is why Democrats are more responsible in control of the budget, more economic sound, and yes, MORE FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE than Republicans.

So, you care about deficits? You don't say.

Obama’s average deficit was $1.3 trillion during his first three years. This translates into an average deficit that is 9.2 percent of GDP.

http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-v-bush-on-spending-debt-and-growth-of-government

I doubt it's gone down.

[jukin]

All their posts - "Just say NO to raising the debt ceiling! Just say NO to raising the debt ceiling!"

Now they sing a different tune. Like birds in a cage.

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So did every democrat senator in 2006. It pissed me off that we had 20+ so called republicans vote for this. It should have passed solely with democrat senators. 

[BannedFromDU]

     I doubt this will register with the phony assholes at all. They're still huffing and puffing like they won the Super Bowl.

[Kimberly]

Dems don't need to do that.  Obama just took that power away from Congress himself.

I think rinos and dems gave to Obama willingly. The whole lot of them who voted for this can just go to hell. I've had it.