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DU Consensus: Anyone hesitating to show Voter ID hates America
« on: October 11, 2013, 11:42:47 AM »
You gotta wonder bout anyone who chooses an unfortunate disease as their sole source of self-imagery.

I think I'll name my next mole SirSpasticColon.

Anyway, here's this:

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My wife called the ACA verification line and after speaking to a rep she will not be proceeding any
   
further.

After giving her social security number, her employer and address as well as my social security number and my employer the employer's address our hourly incomes they expect her to send a copy of either her: Drivers Lisc, School ID, voter ID, Birth certificate, social security card.

My wife is not at all comfortable with this whole ACA. She will be either finding insurance elsewhere or paying the fine. She doesn't feel comfortable she worries about identity thief. My brother stoled my identity before my wife and I got married 11 years ago. This is really unnerving too her.

You may call us crazy or trolls but this is way too much info to be comfortable giving.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023818375


Flame away if you wish but ask yourself --AND YOU DON"T HAVE TO ANSWER ON THIS THREAD BUT if any of you where asked to give ALL this information by anyone without knowing who is going to have access to the info how many of you are willing to give this stuff up.

Healthcare is a right...right?

Just like voting. Simply being born an American obligates other people to accommodate you (amazing how Proglodytes became the reborn Ugly American).

So we're told.

Except now we're being told new things.

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Barack_America (24,842 posts)

1. Pretty standard to ask for a photocopy of ID.

You have to supply it every time you start a new job, for example.

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1000words (196 posts)

2. A perfectly legitimate concern

I hope you and your wife can find a way to resolve this matter with peace of mind. Good luck.

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3. I hope you don't ever have to move then

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because the driver's license bureaus in my area require similar info -- everything but the employment information. And of course they have to ask for that if you're trying to get a subsidy.

The Exchange is a government office. The government already has access to this info -- they're just making sure your wife is who she says she is. In other words, they're trying to stop people like your brother from stealing another person's identity.

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Hoyt (13,827 posts)

4. I don't have a problem giving government or their contractors that info, they already have it

elsewhere. I suppose someone could set up a fake "government" site. But, doesn't sound like the case here.

Definitely don't think you are crazy. Just cautious and unsure about process right now.

Said the guy who's not allowed to own a gun.

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flamingdem (26,348 posts)

5. When you see a doctor they'll xerox your drivers license, take your SS#

ACA would be ruined by fraud and there are those who would like to mess it up for political reasons or to save $.

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phleshdef (8,831 posts)

29. Oh christ, the government owns your records already.

Where the hell do you think your social security number came from?

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7. Anywhere you get insurance you will be requried to provide proof of identity,

not only when you apply, but when you seek medical attention.

The stuff they ask for is pretty standard, but to each his or her own.

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9. When is the last time you filed forms for coverage?

Because whenever I'm "informing" any insurance company, this is standard fare... not that I agree about the use of SS#, but this does not set itself aside from any other third party reimbursement process your wife is going to have to go through.

I've done it lots of ways (on my own, and then getting eligible through my employer again) and that's the truth.

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moriah (3,175 posts)

10. I'm really not trying to sound mean here... but it's the government.

So yes, I know who is going to have access to the information.

The government.

So yes, I'd give that information. I didn't have to, fortunately, Two of the answers were obvious on the Experian identity verification, the other two were "none of the above". I had to re-verify three times (on two different accounts, the first attempt to verify didn't take even though I had all the right answers, and then my account got locked up for some weird wacky reason) but I was able to get it to verify for me.

In a way, the information is less than what you'd have to send in to your state's Unclaimed Property department if you couldn't pass online verification. I had some funds in unclaimed property, and went through a similar identity verification questionnaire.

I am not about to call you a troll, but I do have to say I'm afraid you're being a touch more paranoid than you need to be. You're calling the number, so you know who you're talking to. If someone was calling ME and asking for the information? No. But if I know the number I'm calling is from a legitimate website for the government, and it's the right number, I'd feel safe telling them whatever they needed.

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Mr.Bill (1,426 posts)

12. Yeah, whatever you do,

don't give your Social Security number to the government.


(pssst - they gave it to you)

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Sedona (1,811 posts)

15. I'm a property manager

and I ask for all the above routinely from anyone applying to rent a home.

I would rather not have someone use my ID to obtain healthcare in my name.

I uploaded a copy of my drivers license to the ACA site without a second thought.

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17. Performance Art
 

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Pretzel_Warrior (3,431 posts)

64. undoubtedly

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frazzled (9,948 posts)

20. The government is as suspicious of you as you are of them

You have to see it from their point of view as well. They need to be sure that you are really who you say you are because (1) they may be doling out thousands of dollars a year to you in subsidies; (2) you might try to use someone's identity who has lower income to get a better subsidy; (3) you might be someone trying to buy it for cousin Vinnie, who doesn't qualify for one reason or another; etc.

You have to show your drivers license every time you go to the airport, and often times at stores when you want to use your credit card. While worry about identity theft is real, it's ironic that it was someone close to you--your brother--who actually stole it, not some government worker trying to do their job. I wouldn't worry about the government so much.



And it goes on like that.

(BTW -- I never quoted the same poster twice and I only got half way through the thread.)

They have a thousand ways you can show ID for ObamaCoup to help support the "integrity" of the system but not ONE of the posters in that thread thought it was an undue burden upon an essential right to require ID.

And you're not even required to vote but you HAVE to get insurance under penalty of law.

Don't tell me the Democratic party isn't up to its eyeballs in voter fraud and they're ****ing well aware of that fact.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023826062
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Re: DU Consensus: Anyone hesitating to show Voter ID hates America
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2013, 11:51:37 AM »
Dear DUmmies:

See the bottom of my post.

Read it.  Know it.  LIVE IT.
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Re: DU Consensus: Anyone hesitating to show Voter ID hates America
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2013, 12:03:09 PM »
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1. Pretty standard to ask for a photocopy of ID.

You have to supply it every time you start a new job, for example.

EXCEPT to stop multiple democrat and dead democrat voting.  Then RACIST!!!!!!11111!!!!!!elebinty

Cognitive dissidence thy name is democrat voter.
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Re: DU Consensus: Anyone hesitating to show Voter ID hates America
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2013, 12:11:30 PM »

I think I'll name my next mole SirSpasticColon.

Great idea! Think I will name mine LadyVaginalProlapse. :-)
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Re: DU Consensus: Anyone hesitating to show Voter ID hates America
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2013, 12:12:17 PM »
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they're just making sure your wife is who she says she is.

Which, of course, is completely different when voting.

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I wouldn't worry about the government so much.

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Re: DU Consensus: Anyone hesitating to show Voter ID hates America
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2013, 12:14:43 PM »


That's funny!






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Re: DU Consensus: Anyone hesitating to show Voter ID hates America
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2013, 12:15:57 PM »
Cognitive dissidence thy name is democrat voter.


According to the Bible, "know" means "yes."

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Re: DU Consensus: Anyone hesitating to show Voter ID hates America
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2013, 12:19:54 PM »
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1. Pretty standard to ask for a photocopy of ID.

You have to supply it every time you start a new job, for example.

or vote?  :-)






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Re: DU Consensus: Anyone hesitating to show Voter ID hates America
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2013, 12:23:37 PM »
Great idea! Think I will name mine LadyVaginalProlapse. :-)

Oh Dear!  We could have fun with this.

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Re: DU Consensus: Anyone hesitating to show Voter ID hates America
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2013, 12:34:18 PM »
^^  :lmao:  at the bitchslap up there.  

The difference is, DUmmies, the integrity of the system.  It's fraught with technical problems, I think it's just too easy to hack into.  Also, who's on the other end?  They haven't been vetted very well if at all.  The navigators are planned parenthood and ACORN types, I wouldn't give those guys my real name.