DUmmy "gopiscrap" to lecture high school civics class

[Tess Anderson]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023801925

Mon Oct 7, 2013, 04:32 PM

 gopiscrap (7,002 posts)



I am speaking to my daughters high school civic class on Thursday


 she is a Sr. this year and her teacher has invited me in. I know I'll talk about my life narrative and also my experience running a city initiative and running for Congress, but I would love to have my colleagues input on here: what do you think a high school Sr. should hear from a guest speaker about politics.

He's barely literate:

Response to BlueCheese (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 04:02 PM

 gopiscrap (7,002 posts)

14. "Collier-vs-City of Tacoma"

in 1990 I ran in the primary as a Democratic candidate from the left against a DINO. Mainly because he was voting for funding for The School of the America's in Ft. Benning, the school that trained the assassins that killed the 6 Jesuit priests in El Salvador in 1989.
 
Because I didn't have very good name familiarity (first race ever) I place red and white political yard signs all over the city on people's lawns and windows (none on public property) because the US Congressman involved didn't like seeing all those signs and because I placed them there before the city said I could (most cities have a sign time limitation) I got my name out way better and much cheaper than I could have any other way. The Congressman harangued the city to get the signs down til the time when the code said you could put them up and went to people's property and took the signs and knocked on the doors and said get them out of the windows.
 
We took this to court and won at the city level, lost at the state court of appeals and then the WA Supreme Court kicked to the US Supreme Court and they handed it back to the State Supreme Court to hear. We won 9-0 basically because there are no limitations on real estate and commercial signs (and there will never be unless that official wants his campaign contributions to dry up) and because political speech has to be protected before commercial speech the court had actually no choice but to rule the law of time unconstitutional. It is now one of the test cases in electoral sign law. There were some other components of this also, but this was the main part.
 
I was in South Bend one day working (I work for a religious agency that sends me to speak and sing at churches and religious colleges)and the person who was to be my guide asked me if I was the Mike Collier from Tacoma in the yard sign case, blew me away., It turned out that she taught electoral law at Notre Dame and she asked me to speak to her class. Blew me away. Any that's it in a nutshell.

 

[USA4ME]

This primitive says he's a Methodist minister, but if you read his other posts he cusses like he's Satan himself. I can imagine his prayers (if he even does it at all) would be along the lines of "Hey God, How 'bout you start doing what I &#*%$&ing tell you to do? Jerk."

Yeah, this idiots a real winner.

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[98ZJUSMC]

He's barely literate:

Like that stops a Democrat.

barely literate

Read the second part.  You're being nice.   

[Ralph Wiggum]

I haven't clicked the link, but I imagine there will be lots of "Bush is evil, MIHOP" etc.

[Delmar]

Response to BlueCheese (Reply #12)Wed Oct 9, 2013, 04:02 PM
 gopiscrap (7,004 posts)
14. "Collier-vs-City of Tacoma"

in 1990 I ran in the primary as a Democratic candidate from the left against a DINO. Mainly because he was voting for funding for The School of the America's in Ft. Benning, the school that trained the assassins that killed the 6 Jesuit priests in El Salvador in 1989.

BS, gopiscrap is a lying piece of crap.  He couldn't care less about six Jesuit priests.  What he doesn't like about the School of the Americas is that they provide anti-communist counterinsurgency training to Latin American military up-and-comers in hopes of steering them away from the influence of leftist ideology.  

[diesel driver]

gopiscrap (7,002 posts)
...what do you think a high school Sr. should hear from a guest speaker about politics.

Anything Reagan, Palin, or Cruz.

Nothing YOU have to say.

[GOP Congress]

I do know where he works... but we have a "no personal information" rule. If it is waived, I'll post tomorrow, or a mod can message me.

[franksolich]

I do know where he works... but we have a "no personal information" rule. If it is waived, I'll post tomorrow, or a mod can message.

As far as I can tell, the primitive's already stated his name and the sort of work he does.

gopiscrap (7,007 posts)   Wed Oct 9, 2013, 04:02 PM

14. "Collier-vs-City of Tacoma"

in 1990 I ran in the primary as a Democratic candidate from the left against a DINO. Mainly because he was voting for funding for The School of the America's in Ft. Benning, the school that trained the assassins that killed the 6 Jesuit priests in El Salvador in 1989.
 
Because I didn't have very good name familiarity (first race ever) I place red and white political yard signs all over the city on people's lawns and windows (none on public property) because the US Congressman involved didn't like seeing all those signs and because I placed them there before the city said I could (most cities have a sign time limitation) I got my name out way better and much cheaper than I could have any other way. The Congressman harangued the city to get the signs down til the time when the code said you could put them up and went to people's property and took the signs and knocked on the doors and said get them out of the windows.
 
We took this to court and won at the city level, lost at the state court of appeals and then the WA Supreme Court kicked to the US Supreme Court and they handed it back to the State Supreme Court to hear. We won 9-0 basically because there are no limitations on real estate and commercial signs (and there will never be unless that official wants his campaign contributions to dry up) and because political speech has to be protected before commercial speech the court had actually no choice but to rule the law of time unconstitutional. It is now one of the test cases in electoral sign law. There were some other components of this also, but this was the main part.
 
I was in South Bend one day working (I work for a religious agency that sends me to speak and sing at churches and religious colleges)and the person who was to be my guide asked me if I was the Mike Collier from Tacoma in the yard sign case, blew me away., It turned out that she taught electoral law at Notre Dame and she asked me to speak to her class. Blew me away. Any that's it in a nutshell.

And he's posted photographs of himself on public boards.

He's already given out much information about himself, on his own, and I don't see where it'd hurt to help him.

Being nice people, we're always willing to help.

[franksolich]

Also, he's considered a "public figure," having run for a reasonably high-ranking office before.

But there's something about this that bothers me.

This is a free country; anyone's free to run for any political office as long as he meets the standards.

But here you got a clergyman.

One wonders if the primitives would be so tolerant, so accepting, if a Roman Catholic priest ran for a political office.

No, actually one doesn't wonder.....

[Tess Anderson]

Very true - I don't live that far south of Mike or Randall, but "gopiscrap" will do anything to get his name in the local media. Here's a picture of him from #occupyTacoma:




 

[GOP Congress]

Very well...here goes.

Including contact information: He's a minister all right...church: http://www.fumcot.com/?m=1&s=79&c=185

(On this page he even has a sermon audio)

Document for court case regarding stupid campaign signs: http://fac-staff.seattleu.edu/kwing/web/Collier.doc
"Leagle.com analysis" http://www.leagle.com/decision/1993858121Wn2d737_1813

http://themountainnewswa.net/2011/10/16/tacoma%E2%80%9Coccupied%E2%80%9D-as-hundreds-protest-corporate-greed-unemployment-and-poverty/

http://www.tacomaweekly.com/news/view/occupy-tacoma-takes-protest-to-the-streets-plans-to-move/

more later...

[franksolich]

Now.....why is someone purporting himself to be a man of God so full of Hate?

I think that's false advertising.

[diesel driver]

Now.....why is someone purporting himself to be a man of God so full of Hate?

I think that's false advertising.

Not if you're a liberal politician as well.

Then, all bets are off.

[Carl]

The "church" appears to be a tax front for a queer rights organization. 

[USA4ME]

The "church" appears to be a tax front for a queer rights organization. 

IOW it's a group of people who call themselves "Christians" but they have no interest in being followers of Christ. Not really that much different from all libs who call themselves Christians.

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[GOBUCKS]

DUmmy sentence #1

Because I didn't have very good name familiarity (first race ever) I place red and white political yard signs all over the city on people's lawns and windows (none on public property) because the US Congressman involved didn't like seeing all those signs and because I placed them there before the city said I could (most cities have a sign time limitation) I got my name out way better and much cheaper than I could have any other way.

DUmmy sentence #2

The Congressman harangued the city to get the signs down til the time when the code said you could put them up and went to people's property and took the signs and knocked on the doors and said get them out of the windows.

When I read illiterate abortions like this I always scan several times, trying to see how I would begin to diagram the sentence.

[docstew]

DUmmy sentence #1

DUmmy sentence #2
When I read illiterate abortions like this I always scan several times, trying to see how I would begin to diagram the sentence.

In the segment that GOBUCKS quoted, if I'm reading this right, he placed his campaign signs ON PRIVATE PROPERTY and IN VIOLATION OF CITY ORDINANCES. Why would you admit to what is essentially vandalism, trespassing, and violation of election law?

[AllosaursRus]

As far as I can tell, the primitive's already stated his name and the sort of work he does.

And he's posted photographs of himself on public boards.

He's already given out much information about himself, on his own, and I don't see where it'd hurt to help him.

Being nice people, we're always willing to help.

He admits to running for political office. That makes the "puke" fair game in my book. That is certainly how the left treats anyone who disagrees with them.

Turn about is fair play, and all that ja(i)zz!

In the segment that GOBUCKS quoted, if I'm reading this right, he placed his campaign signs ON PRIVATE PROPERTY and IN VIOLATION OF CITY ORDINANCES. Why would you admit to what is essentially vandalism, trespassing, and violation of election law?

Laws don't apply to the leftist, smartest people in the room, class!