Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool

[Big Dog]

Government has always been a tool for private citizens to use, collectively, to improve the lot of all of us.  

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
    -C. S. Lewis

[Big Dog]

I don't intend to respond to any personal questions.

-Laelth

Then let me do it for you.

You are an attorney from Georgia. You graduated in the bottom half of your law school class, which qualifies you to chase ambulances, judge traffic court, or get a Democrat patronage job. Given your slavish devotion to big government, your pay comes from the public treasury. You post during business hours, so you are most likely furloughed right now.

[GOBUCKS]

Then let me do it for you.

You are an attorney from Georgia. You graduated in the bottom half of your law school class, which qualifies you to chase ambulances, judge traffic court, or get a Democrat patronage job. Given your slavish devotion to big government, your pay comes from the public treasury. You post during business hours, so you are most likely furloughed right now.

As disgusting as it is to log on here and find the stench of a DUmmy all over the place, you have to give DUmmy Laelth some tiny measure of respect.

He has enough balls to use his DUmp name here, unlike DUmmy NYC_SKP.

[Mr Mannn]

As disgusting as it is to log on here and find the stench of a DUmmy all over the place, you have to give DUmmy Laelth some tiny measure of respect.

He has enough balls to use his DUmp name here, unlike DUmmy NYC_SKIP.

I've yet to see a sleeze-ball lawyer with...balls.

[Chris_]

I've yet to see a sleeze-ball lawyer with...balls.

Or a spine.

[freedumb2003b]

I've yet to see a sleeze-ball lawyer with...balls.

Or a spine.

Or morals.

[wasp69]

I've yet to see a sleeze-ball lawyer with...balls.

But they'll rock the **** out of some facial hair and a tube of hair grease, won't they?

[Big Dog]

On that, we will never agree.  The "free market" has had plenty of time to insure that all Americans have adequate and reasonable access to health care, and it has failed.  I am not interested in giving it more time.  Government needed to do something, and it did.  Not sure what government intrusion you think was preventing the free market from solving this problem, but Congress Chairman Maobama and his slobbering knob-gobblers ran out of patience in 2010 and decided to do something.  Thus the ACA.
Perhaps.  We'll see after the ACA has been operational for a few years exactly whom it serves and how well it does so.  We won't know until we try it.
Spot on.  I am on record saying that nobody needs health insurance.  What people need is health care, and, as you rightly note, those are very different things.  Sadly, it appears we can't guarantee health care to all Americans.  Instead, as a compromise, Democrats decided to try the Heritage Foundation's plan from the 1990s to guarantee health insurance for all Americans.  I think that was a stupid move, and I have said so.  I'd much rather we guaranteed and insured that all Americans have access to health care.

-Laelth

"Health care" is a collection of commodities- goods and services. It is impossible to guarantee access for all Americans to those commodities- the person who lives 3 hours from the nearest community hospital certainly has no guaranteed access.

In order to guarantee medical care to every person, the government would have to seize every hospital, clinic, and pharmaceutical manufacturer, and enslave every doctor, nurse, and technician.

Your red stripe is showing, Comrade.

[Big Dog]

...to late, that cow has already been milked.

Speaking of which-

Lilith, you've been lookin' for love (in all the wrong places). Why don't you go out to Tucson and rescue Amber from her life under the bridge? She believes in the redistribution of wealth, too, but she actually practices it.

I'm sure she'd be suitably appreciative- after all, she screwed Dave in exchange for half of his refrigerator box. Imagine what she'd let you do!

[Mr Mannn]

Then let me do it for you.

You are an attorney from Georgia. You graduated in the bottom half of your law school class, which qualifies you to chase ambulances, judge traffic court, or get a Democrat patronage job. Given your slavish devotion to big government, your pay comes from the public treasury. You post during business hours, so you are most likely furloughed right now.

As long as we're playing psychic. I'd would cast doubt on his attorney credentials. If he ever did pass law school it was by the skin of his teeth. Further, my crystal ball says he never landed a job as a lawyer-not even the state would touch him.

So that leaves one option open for Laelth...an activist.
I would say he is a drug user as well. Never married or divorced. No kids thank goodness (can you imagine a guy like that verbally abusing his own children?).

He is a socialist, so Laelth is also an atheist, but not the cool kind, no he is the type who would outlaw Christianity and Judaism if he had the power. His god is govt, and he brooks no competition.

He considers himself a genius, far above us mere mortal conservatives. His trolling here is just mental masturbation for him. He depends on a law degree to make him better than everyone else.
That means he is compensating for something. Something he was picked on when he was little. Obama ears of something like that. I'm guessing his manhood is nicknamed Wee Willie, far to undersized to get a real woman.

Hence Laelth is bitter and alone. He is miserable, and attempting to bring an oppressive govt down to bear on free people is his ultimate goal...with himself in a prominent position by virtue of his magnificent law degree.  

But the ultimate truth to socialists like Laelth is they are all Fabian socialists...plotting to kill in a bloody purge those they deem unsuited to live in their perfect society.
--modern socialists know better than to speak their goals out loud.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3lBdyFvPps[/youtube]

[biersmythe]

HEHE I wonder what the far left thing the far right think about them as far as useful beings on the planet?  they probably don't want to know.

[98ZJUSMC]

HEHE I wonder what the far left thing the far right think about them as far as useful beings on the planet?   they probably don't want to know.

They're too busy floating in their cloud of smug self-satisfaction, completely oblivious to the disconnect of their failed worldview and reality.  Without the, US as the US, their Eurosocialist fantasy collapses.  We've been funding it for years and it's why they are  ....getting "very concerned" ....about US debt lately coming right out and saying we must raise the debt ceiling.

Oh, really?

How's this       assmunchers.

[Laelth]

Speaking of which-

Lilith, you've been lookin' for love (in all the wrong places). Why don't you go out to Tucson and rescue Amber from her life under the bridge? She believes in the redistribution of wealth, too, but she actually practices it.

I'm sure she'd be suitably appreciative- after all, she screwed Dave in exchange for half of his refrigerator box. Imagine what she'd let you do!

Um ... no, thank you.   

-Laelth

[Bad Dog]

Um ... no, thank you.   

-Laelth

 

Not into the wimmins huh?

[Laelth]

"Health care" is a collection of commodities- goods and services. It is impossible to guarantee access for all Americans to those commodities- the person who lives 3 hours from the nearest community hospital certainly has no guaranteed access.

True, I suppose.  Depends upon how one defines "guarantee."  My point was that people need health care, not health insurance.  That's all I was trying to say.

Your red stripe is showing, Comrade.

That's funny, I admit, but these days in the United States those of us on the left, to the extent we identify with the Democratic Party, are coded "blue."  So, perhaps, I have a blue stripe showing?

 

-Laelth

[NHSparky]

Um ... no, thank you.   

-Laelth

Uh, dude--beggars can't be choosers.  Either one of you.

[NHSparky]

True, I suppose.  Depends upon how one defines "guarantee."  My point was that people need health care, not health insurance.  That's all I was trying to say.

That's funny, I admit, but these days in the United States those of us on the left, to the extent we identify with the Democratic Party, are coded "blue."  So, perhaps, I have a blue stripe showing?

 

-Laelth

Funny but no.  And you might want to consider the genesis of how we got to where we are, starting around the 1940's, taking a breather in the 60's/70's, and then up to the present day.  In each and every instance, the "solutions" provided by DEMOCRATS have made the situation WORSE, meaning the liberals AGAIN come up with some bullshit ideas and make the situation worse still.

I had an Economics professor in college who taught me one very sage lesson--that if you paid him $50K/year (at that time decent money) to solve a problem, the ONE thing he could guarantee with certainty is that the problem would NEVER be solved.  Congress and politicians are much the same.

[Laelth]

As long as we're playing psychic. I'd would cast doubt on his attorney credentials. If he ever did pass law school it was by the skin of his teeth. Further, my crystal ball says he never landed a job as a lawyer-not even the state would touch him.

So that leaves one option open for Laelth...an activist.
I would say he is a drug user as well. Never married or divorced. No kids thank goodness (can you imagine a guy like that verbally abusing his own children?).

He is a socialist, so Laelth is also an atheist, but not the cool kind, no he is the type who would outlaw Christianity and Judaism if he had the power. His god is govt, and he brooks no competition.

He considers himself a genius, far above us mere mortal conservatives. His trolling here is just mental masturbation for him. He depends on a law degree to make him better than everyone else.
That means he is compensating for something. Something he was picked on when he was little. Obama ears of something like that. I'm guessing his manhood is nicknamed Wee Willie, far to undersized to get a real woman.

Hence Laelth is bitter and alone. He is miserable, and attempting to bring an oppressive govt down to bear on free people is his ultimate goal...with himself in a prominent position by virtue of his magnificent law degree.  

But the ultimate truth to socialists like Laelth is they are all Fabian socialists...plotting to kill in a bloody purge those they deem unsuited to live in their perfect society.
--modern socialists know better than to speak their goals out loud.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3lBdyFvPps[/youtube]

Wow!  You have a remarkable imagination!   Keep chewing, if you find it useful and entertaining. 

[Laelth]

Funny but no.  And you might want to consider the genesis of how we got to where we are, starting around the 1940's, taking a breather in the 60's/70's, and then up to the present day.  In each and every instance, the "solutions" provided by DEMOCRATS have made the situation WORSE, meaning the liberals AGAIN come up with some bullshit ideas and make the situation worse still.

I had an Economics professor in college who taught me one very sage lesson--that if you paid him $50K/year (at that time decent money) to solve a problem, the ONE thing he could guarantee with certainty is that the problem would NEVER be solved.  Congress and politicians are much the same.

You know, if the right could come up with a better solution to any of our problems other than more tax cuts and less regulation, I might give this argument some credence, but, for as long as I have been politically sentient, the right's answer to everything has been more tax cuts and less regulation, and we have been doing that, in fact, for forty years, or so.  To date it hasn't worked.

-Laelth

[Laelth]

Uh, dude--beggars can't be choosers.  Either one of you.

LOL.  That's funny, but I am not a beggar.

-Laelth

[Carl]

You know, if the right could come up with a better solution to any of our problems other than more tax cuts and less regulation, I might give this argument some credence, but, for as long as I have been politically sentient, the right's answer to everything has been more tax cuts and less regulation, and we have been doing that, in fact, for forty years, or so.  To date it hasn't worked.

-Laelth

Guess you were too busy playing video games to have been aware of the 80s.

[txradioguy]

Guess you were too busy playing video games to have been aware of the 80s.

No he thinks that:

Ronald Reagan's shadow is very long. I thought he was wrong then, and I think he is wrong now.

He's fully aware of the 80's...he just thinks what happened during that time was wrong and somehow a failure.

[Big Dog]

He's fully aware of the 80's...he just thinks what happened during that time was wrong and somehow a failure.

It was- for Gorbachev.

That is what made Lilith's butt hurt so badly.

[Big Dog]

I am disappointed that Lilith got himself banned today. I was looking forward to another evening of smacking him around, like a bitch.

[Big Dog]

Um ... no, thank you.   

-Laelth

The late, unlamented leftist Lilith didn't want Amber. How superficial. When word gets back to the DUmp, PhDD will have the long knives out.

The  DUmmy fails to realize that in Obama's Amerika, what he wants doesn't matter. I don't want to support a gaggle of welfare mooches and Democrats (BIRM), but I do with every paycheck.

"From each according to his ability" - Lilith is a one percenter- all law skool grads are, right? He has the ability to financially support a smelly hobo, so he must do his duty as a Leftist.

"To each according to his her need."  Amber needs a short obnoxious leftist to help her forget Dave, and Dennis Kucinich is taken. She also needs someone to pick the scorpions from her hair, and to insulate her from the inevitable pain of losing her imaginary Indian.

Enter Lilith.