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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #250 on: October 09, 2013, 08:15:16 AM »
Quote from: Splashdown on October 09, 2013, 07:45:00 AM
I was focusing on your opinion that conservatives (like us) want to bring back slavery. First you sad we do, then, after you were called on it, you said we don't.

That was a faster flip-flop than John Kerry.
I did change my mind on the subject.  Frank made a very good point.

That said, I never said that you want to bring back slavery.  I think I said that conservatives could bring back slavery, i.e. that nothing is "final" and "decided" regarding social issues.  I concede that Frank was right about that.

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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #251 on: October 09, 2013, 08:20:37 AM »
Quote from: Laelth on October 09, 2013, 06:40:21 AM
No, I don't think anyone here wants to bring back slavery.  My point was that some social/cultural issues do get settled in time, a point I made in response to Frank who suggested that nothing is final.  Ultimately, he's right about that.  I concede that my premise regarding social issues in this thread is in error.

-Laelth

They why bring it up? Other than to take a gratitutious shot ad the Conservatives on this board with a typical trollish Libtard falsehood.

Someone must have struck a nerve and you let your thin veil of niceness slip on that one.
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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #252 on: October 09, 2013, 08:20:49 AM »
But why even cosider that as a possibility?
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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #253 on: October 09, 2013, 08:22:24 AM »
Quote from: Laelth on October 09, 2013, 08:11:53 AM
I do not buy that hype, though you rightly note that some people do.  That said, I do have to agree with Frank that nothing is final and unchangeable (other than death).

Thank you for your thoughtful response.   :cheersmate:

-Laelth

Bullshit you don't buy the hype.  You've done nothing BUT push the Liberal hype and propaganda from your perch on Capitol Hill since you showed back up on day one of the slim down.
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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #254 on: October 09, 2013, 08:25:23 AM »
What Lillith was trying to do was get one or more members of this forum to advocate violence.  Fortunately we have good people on this forum (or at least smart) and, he isn't very good at his/her job.

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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #255 on: October 09, 2013, 08:26:21 AM »
Quote from: Laelth on October 09, 2013, 08:15:16 AM
I did change my mind on the subject.  Frank made a very good point.

That said, I never said that you want to bring back slavery.  I think I said that conservatives could bring back slavery, i.e. that nothing is "final" and "decided" regarding social issues.  I concede that Frank was right about that.

-Laelth



You are groveling, bowing, scraping, and ingratiating yourself.

It isn't working. You're still repugnant.
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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #256 on: October 09, 2013, 08:42:43 AM »
Quote from: Laelth on October 09, 2013, 08:15:16 AM
I did change my mind on the subject.  Frank made a very good point.

That said, I never said that you want to bring back slavery.  I think I said that conservatives could bring back slavery, i.e. that nothing is "final" and "decided" regarding social issues.  I concede that Frank was right about that.

-Laelth



One would think that a lawyer would have run across the 13th amendment somewhere in law school.
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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #257 on: October 09, 2013, 08:43:26 AM »
Quote from: Eupher on October 09, 2013, 08:26:21 AM
You are groveling, bowing, scraping, and ingratiating yourself.

It isn't working. You're still repugnant.
Thanks, Eupher, and you're a swell person too.   :rofl:

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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #258 on: October 09, 2013, 08:46:59 AM »
Quote from: Laelth on October 09, 2013, 08:43:26 AM
Thanks, Eupher, and you're a swell person too.   :rofl:

-Laelth



Eupher is, in fact, a swell person.  You, on the other hand, are an asshole.
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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #259 on: October 09, 2013, 08:48:36 AM »
Quote from: Carl on October 09, 2013, 08:42:43 AM
One would think that a lawyer would have run across the 13th amendment somewhere in law school.

Carl, that's the worst argument of all the ones available to you.  The 13th Amendment (because it's an amendment) proves the point that anything can change, i.e. we could amend the Constitution again (given that we've already amended it once on this issue).

Sorry, I have to agree with Frank here.  Anything can change.  Nothing is final.

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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #260 on: October 09, 2013, 08:54:27 AM »
Quote from: Laelth on October 09, 2013, 08:48:36 AM
Carl, that's the worst argument of all the ones available to you.  The 13th Amendment (because it's an amendment) proves the point that anything can change, i.e. we could amend the Constitution again (given that we've already amended it once on this issue).

Sorry, I have to agree with Frank here.  Anything can change.  Nothing is final.

-Laelth

Don`t be an idiot,your strawman suggestion was that slavery could be brought back virtually by fiat by conservatives when in truth it would require an impossible task of amending the constitution and overwhelming popular support.
You are no where near as clever as you think yourself.
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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #261 on: October 09, 2013, 08:58:23 AM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on October 09, 2013, 08:46:59 AM
You, on the other hand, are an asshole.

You know, I can accept that label.  I suppose it goes with the territory (being an attorney).  Nobody pays me to be a nice guy.

 :cheersmate:

-Laelth
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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #262 on: October 09, 2013, 08:58:39 AM »
Quote from: Carl on October 09, 2013, 08:54:27 AM
...You are no where near as clever as you think yourself.


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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #263 on: October 09, 2013, 08:59:02 AM »
Quote from: Carl on October 09, 2013, 08:54:27 AM
Don`t be an idiot,your strawman suggestion was that slavery could be brought back virtually by fiat by conservatives when in truth it would require an impossible task of amending the constitution and overwhelming popular support.
You are no where near as clever as you think yourself.


Well, just for clarity I'd suggest that a Constitutional Amendment can be repealed (the 18th being the only example), but the rest of Carl's point is spot-on.

Strawmen usually go up in flames. Laelth, yours just immolated himself.

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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #264 on: October 09, 2013, 09:02:57 AM »
Quote from: Happy Fun Ball on October 09, 2013, 08:20:49 AM
But why even cosider that as a possibility?

All the better to disrupt the board, my dear.
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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #265 on: October 09, 2013, 09:04:24 AM »
Quote from: Laelth on October 09, 2013, 08:48:36 AM
Nothing is final.

-Laelth

Even the Constitution?
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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #266 on: October 09, 2013, 09:04:39 AM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on October 09, 2013, 08:25:23 AM
What Lillith was trying to do was get one or more members of this forum to advocate violence.  Fortunately we have good people on this forum (or at least smart) and, he isn't very good at his/her job.

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I think it's pretty clear why he's dicking around on the internet and not in a courtroom.
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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #267 on: October 09, 2013, 09:05:11 AM »
Quote from: Laelth on October 09, 2013, 08:15:16 AM
I did change my mind on the subject.  Frank made a very good point.

That said, I never said that you want to bring back slavery.  I think I said that conservatives could bring back slavery, i.e. that nothing is "final" and "decided" regarding social issues.  I concede that Frank was right about that.

-Laelth


The only thing final is your membership here.  Your comments about slavery are inexcuseable, and you're not "walking" that one back.

Goodbye.
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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #268 on: October 09, 2013, 09:07:35 AM »
Quote from: Chris on October 09, 2013, 09:05:11 AM
The only thing final is your membership here.  Your comments about slavery are inexcuseable, and you're not "walking" that one back.

Goodbye.

Crap!! we just get the new chew toy all slobbered up and Chris takes it away.
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« Reply #269 on: October 09, 2013, 09:08:19 AM »
Awww...what's he gonna do now until the Gov't shutdown is over?
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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #270 on: October 09, 2013, 09:08:48 AM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on October 09, 2013, 09:07:35 AM
Crap!! we just get the new chew toy all slobbered up and Chris takes it away.
Ah, come on.  That one was all raggedy and chewed-up.
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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #271 on: October 09, 2013, 09:09:30 AM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on October 09, 2013, 09:07:35 AM
Crap!! we just get the new chew toy all slobbered up and Chris takes it away.

He's actually a recycled chew toy.  Didn't tates any better the second tim around.

Don't worry...Thanksgiving and Christmas break are soon upon us..there will be more.  :-)
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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #272 on: October 09, 2013, 09:10:06 AM »
Quote from: Chris on October 09, 2013, 09:05:11 AM
The only thing final is your membership here.  Your comments about slavery are inexcuseable, and you're not "walking" that one back.

Goodbye.

Scratch another skid mark off the toilet bowl, honey. Chris has already flushed most of it away.
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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #273 on: October 09, 2013, 09:10:24 AM »
Quote from: Chris on October 09, 2013, 09:05:11 AM
The only thing final is your membership here.  Your comments about slavery are inexcuseable, and you're not "walking" that one back.

Goodbye.



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Re: On all the great social issues of our time, "The Left" has already won.
« Reply #274 on: October 09, 2013, 09:11:21 AM »
Quote from: txradioguy on October 09, 2013, 09:08:19 AM
Awww...what's he gonna do now until the Gov't shutdown is over?

Troll for nerdy chicks on the gamer forums?
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