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primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« on: September 30, 2013, 08:10:25 PM »
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Oh my.

Naturally, the primitive has to use a non-English word for it, so as to appear sophistique.

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Old Navy (60 posts)    Mon Sep 30, 2013, 06:47 PM

Need a good recipe for grilled Chateaubriand

Have two pieces we bought in New York thawing out, and I want it done just right. I'll attempt the reverse sear I heard about...
 
My wife wants it cooked well-done.. I'll do my best...

So i'm about to fire up my gas grill now to set it up...

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elleng (42,425 posts)    Mon Sep 30, 2013, 07:27 PM

1. 'Well done' defeats the purpose excellent cuts of beef!

DON'T DO IT!

Nice of you to comply with your wife's wishes.

Ahem again.

"Well done," and with all the fat cut off, fulfills the purpose of excellent cuts of beef.

The primitives don't know excresence about fine dining.

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cbayer (124,593 posts)    Mon Sep 30, 2013, 07:35 PM

2. Agree, but that's how some people like it.

He could cut it in half, then butterfly his wife's portion so that it is going to cook more.
 
That's what we used to do in the steak restaurant I worked in.

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<<<kind of suspects it wasn't as a cook or waitress or cashier or dishwasher or something.

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elleng (42,425 posts)    Mon Sep 30, 2013, 07:41 PM

4. Good idea.

Thought of well-done makes me cry (almost; been years since I've had steak.) My folks used to buy and prepare the whole filet. RARE, please!!!

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cbayer (124,593 posts)   Mon Sep 30, 2013, 07:43 PM

5. Rare for me, too. It's my favorite cut and I love cooking it whole, but haven't done it for years. Too pricey!!

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elleng (42,425 posts)    Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:21 PM

10. I'm sure, and I have no idea HOW pricey, never did!

Used to buy rib-eye regularly. Now, chicken!!! (Thighs, please!)

<<<because it has some fat on it, feeds rib-eye to the cats here.

<<<lives in the beef state; gets this stuff, gratis, all the time from neighbors and friends.

<<<uses only fat-free beef for stew.

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11. I'm all about the thighs, too.

I've lost a lot of my interest in red meat as I've gotten older.

But I live with a meat and potatoes guy, so I try to balance it out.

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cbayer (124,593 posts)    Mon Sep 30, 2013, 07:41 PM

3. I would just put some butter or oil on it, sprinkle with pepper and grill to your desired doneness. An instant read thermometer would help with that.

As I said above, you can butterfly the piece for your wife and leave yours whole.
 
Classically you served with a lemon, parsley, and butter sauce or a bernaise sauce.
 
It's such a beautiful cut, so I think the less you do to it, the better.

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Old Navy (60 posts)    Mon Sep 30, 2013, 07:49 PM

7. I loved what I made.

I just followed about.com's suggestions, it came out beautifully and I loved it. My wife did too.
 
She is pledging to bring home more chateubriands from New York the next time we go.

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Old Navy (60 posts)    Mon Sep 30, 2013, 07:43 PM

6. So I ended up following a how-to from About.com

Reverse-seared at low temp for 7 minutes on each side, then another 7 minutes until done.
 
Mine came out perfect - medium rare with a little pink in the center.

Although the recipe suggest rare, i just didn't like it too rare.

I just added another 2 minutes for my wife's steak, and she saw my steak and thought it looked good.

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cbayer (124,593 posts)    Mon Sep 30, 2013, 07:55 PM

8. I'm glad it came out the way you hoped.

Maybe you can slowly introduce your wife to meat a little less done.

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Old Navy (60 posts)    Mon Sep 30, 2013, 07:56 PM

9. Been trying to for years.. Can't be done...

I just gave up and cook her meat a little longer than mine.

That's a good compromise.

ETA: she is a stubborn New Yorker... and grew up eating well-done food.

Even I wouldn't feed my MIL's steak to a dog (She ruins the thing literally)
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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2013, 08:25:30 PM »
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So i'm about to fire up my gas grill now to set it up...

That was your first mistake.

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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2013, 08:25:48 PM »
Uh, I don't mean to disparage decent and civilized people who love beef but who can only rarely afford the finest cuts; no way.  The criticism and the boasting is directed at the tres sophistique primitives.

Because of where I live, and what I do, people are always giving me some choice cuts.

I insist that, in a way, it's like casting pearls before swine, because really, I really do prefer a plain old hamburger, well-done, pressed down hard on the grill so as to squeeze out every drop of grease.

<<<won't touch beef with any white spot on it.

But to wrap this up, it doesn't go to waste.  Given the setting of this place, people come over a great deal to cook out, and for them, I drag out the good stuff, being careful to save some for the cats.

I swear, if the weather's good, at times this place is like a restaurant.
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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2013, 08:30:30 PM »
If I'm going to pay $15/lb or more for a good tenderloin, ain't NO WAY IN HELL I'M BURNING IT.

Medium-rare, medium at most.

You like burnt shit?  Have a hamburger.
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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2013, 08:33:32 PM »
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Chateaubriand

I went to Wikipedia to learn more about what it is.  I did learn that it is traditionally served with chat potatoes, or chat pots as they are commonly known.

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It is traditionally served with herb roasted small "new potatoes" or "chat potatoes" and either Bearnaise or mustard sauce.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chateaubriand_steak
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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2013, 08:35:21 PM »
If I'm going to pay $15/lb or more for a good tenderloin, ain't NO WAY IN HELL I'M BURNING IT.

Medium-rare, medium at most.

You like burnt shit?  Have a hamburger.

I figured you'd show up, sir, but check my comment immediately above yours.

To each his own; I'm not criticizing your taste.
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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2013, 09:02:39 PM »
I went to Wikipedia to learn more about what it is.  I did learn that it is traditionally served with chat potatoes, or chat pots as they are commonly known.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chateaubriand_steak

I'm sure that my good friend and esteemed mentor NHSparky is going to jump on me again, but anyway, when people bring ground beef over here, I never use it myself.

About half the time, maybe a little more, I'm with these same people while they're butchering, and while they're expert butchers, I still get a little nervous about the end-products.

And so speculating it's safer and cleaner, I buy my hamburger at the local grocery store.

But really, I think people bring this stuff over here--and it's been going on ever since I first moved here--with the pretty reasonable assumption--not 100%, but at least 99% or 98%--that they themselves are going to be dining on it sooner or later.
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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2013, 09:53:43 PM »
I a bit surprised any of the DUmmies eat beef.  They don't act like it.   :)

I'm with you, Frank, on being leery of meat that others have processed.  But, I included butchers and general supermarkets in that.  So, while I prefer to eat meat that I have packaged, etc., and since beef is marketable and wild game is not, my family and I have eaten more wild game than beef!


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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2013, 09:18:01 AM »
Frank, any time you want to send me some of that "cat food"..................................... :-)
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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
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elleng (42,425 posts)    Mon Sep 30, 2013, 07:27 PM

1. 'Well done' defeats the purpose excellent cuts of beef!

DON'T DO IT!

Nice of you to comply with your wife's wishes.

I always want my meat well done.
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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2013, 10:54:13 AM »
I always want my meat well done.

Nope, not gonna say a word.  O-)

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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2013, 11:14:40 AM »
Nope, not gonna say a word.  O-)

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I said well done not well endowed............on 2nd thought I'm married to someone who votes Republican, well endowed always applies to them.
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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2013, 11:28:41 AM »
If I'm going to pay $15/lb or more for a good tenderloin, ain't NO WAY IN HELL I'M BURNING IT.

Medium-rare, medium at most.

You like burnt shit?  Have a hamburger.

You got it Sparky! Have raised my own beef for years. Since movin' off the ranch can no longer do it, but have many friends and a SIL that furnish me with the good stuff.

Slap it's ass and throw it on a plate! If it ain't runnin' with red juice ya killed it!

Uhm Coach, it has been my experience if there is not a little fat marbled into beef it's tough as hell!
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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2013, 11:29:50 AM »
...Uhm Coach, it has been my experience if there is not a little fat marbled into beef it's tough as hell!

And nearly tasteless, besides...
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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2013, 11:44:52 AM »
And nearly tasteless, besides...

Which is why in a high-end place like Ruth's Chris, etc., I'll order a ribeye every single time.

Fat tastes yummy.  Sorry people, there it is.

And coach, no issues with how you like your mammal flesh.  Just a matter of personal tastes.  But my ex loved charcoal, I mean, well-done steak.  Then again, half the time she drowned it in steak sauce, bernaise, whatever, just to give it some flavor.

I'm closer to Allo's version--although I don't like it "blue rare", if it doesn't scream when I stab into it, it's probably too well-done.
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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2013, 11:51:18 AM »

     Let's recap: the DUmmy is THAWING out tenderloin to put on a GAS grill.

     Holy Mother of Tortured and Wasted Meat.

     After treating a piece of meat that way, why not cook it to well-done? Why not jump on it a few times and call it names?

     
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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2013, 12:32:18 PM »
Which is why in a high-end place like Ruth's Chris, etc., I'll order a ribeye every single time.

Fat tastes yummy.  Sorry people, there it is.

I agree.  It's my favorite cut.  I do like tri-tip on the grill.  If you cut it right, it's tender and has flavor.




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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2013, 12:43:31 PM »
I agree.  It's my favorite cut.  I do like tri-tip on the grill.  If you cut it right, it's tender and has flavor.



Roger that, and in fact my cut of choice is a top sirloin. Flavorful but still tender enough. In fact, here is the BFDU Method for prepping a sirloin:

1. Acquire sirloin, at least one inch in thickness;
2. Trim away fat on edges to 1/4" if necessary;
3. Salt liberally with coarse kosher salt; massage salt into the meat;
4. Place in refrigerator covered only with butcher paper for one day;
5. Remove from fridge and allow to warm up close to room temperature. Apply brushing of canola oil if desired;
6. Set oven to broil, or at 500 degrees;
7. Heat a cast iron skillet to temperature of hell;
8. Add several drops of peanut or other high smoke point oil to skillet, Apply pepper to sirloin;
9. Sear both sides of sirloin to desired crustiness (~3 min. each side);
10. Place skillet in oven for 3 minutes for medium rare;
11. Remove skillet from oven; allow meat to rest for 5 minutes or so;
12. Plate. Apply herbed butter, steak sauce, or other condiment/sauce of choice.

I do not generally grill steaks over a flame.
 
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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2013, 01:03:32 PM »
Well done makes me  :bawl:

Lots of nice, meaty, RED juice for me . . .  O-)
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2013, 01:07:07 PM »
Well done makes me  :bawl:

Lots of nice, meaty, RED juice for me . . .  O-)

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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2013, 01:21:34 PM »
Well done makes me  :bawl:

Lots of nice, meaty, RED juice for me . . .  O-)

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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2013, 01:53:50 PM »
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Make double sure she's talking about steak first, dude.
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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2013, 02:18:43 PM »

Make double sure she's talking about steak first, dude.


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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2013, 02:25:01 PM »
I don't understand how anyone can prefer well-done, but everyone has different tastes.

It isn't as bad, I guess, as putting peas in beef stew.

What I really don't understand is why they'd spend the extra money on an expensive cut to cook that way.

A round steak or a pot roast, cooked well-done, has the same taste and texture as a piece of well-done tenderloin(shudder).

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Re: primitive needs a good recipe for fixing, ahem, tenderloin
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2013, 06:01:25 PM »
I don't understand how anyone can prefer well-done, but everyone has different tastes.

It isn't as bad, I guess, as putting peas in beef stew.

What I really don't understand is why they'd spend the extra money on an expensive cut to cook that way.

A round steak or a pot roast, cooked well-done, has the same taste and texture as a piece of well-done tenderloin(shudder).

I love peas, and I put them in my beef stew once in a while LOL.
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